Cash hope for flood prevention work on the A19 at Fulford

Flood waters on the A19 at Fulford in September last year, shortly before the road was completely closed because of the rising waters Flood waters on the A19 at Fulford in September last year, shortly before the road was completely closed because of the rising waters

HIGHWAYS chiefs are pressing ahead with a bid for millions of pounds to help prevent one of York’s busiest roads being repeatedly closed by flooding.

City of York Council wants to carry out flood prevention work on the A19 at Fulford, which was shut three times last year by flooding from the nearby River Ouse, and also to install new signals and improve access at key junctions.

It is seeking a share of £170 million in Government “Pinch Point Funding”, designed to support local transport schemes that tackle congestion and support growth.

The Press revealed last month how the authority was set to bid for cash from the national pot in the hope it might start some of the city’s biggest stalled developments, including the Germany Beck housing project at Fulford.

The council said yesterday it was hoping for about £2 million from the Department for Transport, with remaining £2.7 million cost of the scheme being met by the private sector and existing council transport budgets.

A spokeswoman said key elements of the proposals included:

• The introduction of a new left- turn, free-flow lane from A19 into the Designer Outlet Park & Ride

• Inbound bus priority lanes on the A19 between the A64 and Germany Beck

• Bus priorities at the Naburn Lane junction and an enhanced junction at the proposed Germany Beck development.

The spokeswomamn said: “The scheme will complement and enhance the improvements planned to be provided as part of the Germany Beck development, which will create new access to the site and raise the height of the road to be above flood levels.”

Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for transport, planning and sustainability, said the repeated closure of the A19 caused major disruption and hit businesses hard.

“By carrying out these flood and surface water drainage improvements on this section, it will support the Germany Beck development and potential growth in the area to future-proof York’s fast growing communities,” he said.

“In addition to supporting one of the largest housing developments in York, funding will also improve access to Designer Outlet Park&Ride. This should make the Park&Ride more attractive and help us to get more people out of their cars, relieving congestion and improving air quality in the Fulford Road/Fishergate corridor which is a pollution hot spot.”

If the bid is successful, construction could start as early as 2014.

Comments(17)

BL2 says...
9:58am Wed 27 Feb 13

Inbound bus priority lanes on the A19 between the A64 and Germany Beck

So what is the empty buss lane that is already between the A64 and Naburn Lane for?! STOP WASTING MONEY!

mrcharly says...
10:25am Wed 27 Feb 13

Why are they trying to support the Germany Beck development?

It will add over 2000 residents to Fulford, in an area prone to flooding. Plus there will only be one access point in or out of the development onto an already overloaded road.

This will be a planning disaster.

Kevin Turvey says...
10:41am Wed 27 Feb 13

Or they could stop all the flooding in the York area completely and quite cheap in comparison by ensuring that the river Ouse and Foss are dredged in the relevant areas thereby giving the river back its full true capacity!

Tackle the root cause not the effects!

Or it’s a road improvement initiative for the Germany beck development under another name/funding opportunity!

old_geezer says...
11:53am Wed 27 Feb 13

• Inbound bus priority lanes on the A19 between the A64 and Germany Beck

BL2: Very useful to those of us who travel by bus, funnily enough. And I drive too, so see both sides.

CJPG says...
1:31pm Wed 27 Feb 13

It is sheer madness if this development is allowed to go ahead. Traffic is already bad enough at peak times, without all the extra cars which will inevitably be on the road from the new development.

I agree with making sure the road doesn't get flooded, as this is a major arterial route into York, and the traffic in York tends to grind to a standstill when this road is closed. But as for building a load of houses there is absolute nonsense.

It's just another way of the council making money, and sod the consequences.

Pete the Brickie says...
3:24pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Instead of putting a bus lane part the way down one side of the road, how about building laybys on both big enough for buses to pull into and allow cars to pass? All they'd have to do is ensure they weren't put next to traffic islands and are three times longer than any bus known to First to incorperate their convoy system. If they were short of building materials they could remove the chicanes from Heslington and utilise them as foundations. Once that was done they could phase the lights properly and use any surplus electrical power to light up the zebra crossing at the University Sports Centre to make it harder for motorists to run down oriental students with no road sense dressed as Ninjas who are currently only visible by the white wire on their ipod headphones as they dart across the road in a deadly game of one sided chicken oblivious to the near misses and traffic chaos in their blind dash for pot noodle and lager.

AnotherPointofView says...
4:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pete the Brickie wrote:
Instead of putting a bus lane part the way down one side of the road, how about building laybys on both big enough for buses to pull into and allow cars to pass? All they'd have to do is ensure they weren't put next to traffic islands and are three times longer than any bus known to First to incorperate their convoy system. If they were short of building materials they could remove the chicanes from Heslington and utilise them as foundations. Once that was done they could phase the lights properly and use any surplus electrical power to light up the zebra crossing at the University Sports Centre to make it harder for motorists to run down oriental students with no road sense dressed as Ninjas who are currently only visible by the white wire on their ipod headphones as they dart across the road in a deadly game of one sided chicken oblivious to the near misses and traffic chaos in their blind dash for pot noodle and lager.
Ha ha ha. Pete you are spot on. Thanks for brightening up my afternoon!

Perhaps with your JCB one day you could remove not only the chicanes at Heslington but also the traffic lights on Field Lane at Heslington. These "four way" lights serve no useful purpose except to delay as much traffic as possible. Why, oh why was this pinch point built?

As for the bus stops on University Road by Vanburgh Way. When two buses stop at the same time and completely block the road... don't get me started.

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
5:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

York Council are scr*wed with their housing targets and will not meet them in the next five years.

Their Get York Building plan is a joke, and their hope that they will achieve 5,000 new homes in the next 5-7 years has failed before it has started.

In a nutshell, they have unimplemented insufficient planning permissions, which have dwindled to a critical level, because of the 50% affordable policy that was retained for almost six years. The profile of these pipeline permissions in terms of site size means that they are dependant on a massive surge in planning applications/consent
s in the next two years to increase housing completions, but, even they will not meet their targets.

They are stuffed and they know they are, but, councillors have been hoodwinked by officers who are behind the unworkable affordable targets which are to blame for the predicament.

It's time they came clean with the truth, with those responsible for the porky pies should resign, or be sacked.

It will all come out in the Press, very soon !!!!

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
5:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Sorry that should read 'insufficient unimplemented planning permissions'

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
5:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

I'm told Get York Building is a pack of lies,
and the council are telling porky pies!
It doesn't do what's on the tin,
and should be put in the waste bin!

Alexander, Merrett and Simpson-Laing,
About housing they don't give a ****,
It's all a con, and a stitch-up,
As Waddo' has sold them a pup!

No houses will this plan get built,
Because of an officers clear guilt!
The survey's a joke, your 'avin a laugh,
Waddo has lead you up t'garden path !

It's all gone wrong, he will confess,
It'll be on t'front page of the Press.
Don't cheat, don't lie or you will weep
For promises you cannot keep

Fourkov says...
7:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
I'm told Get York Building is a pack of lies,
and the council are telling porky pies!
It doesn't do what's on the tin,
and should be put in the waste bin!

Alexander, Merrett and Simpson-Laing,
About housing they don't give a ****,
It's all a con, and a stitch-up,
As Waddo' has sold them a pup!

No houses will this plan get built,
Because of an officers clear guilt!
The survey's a joke, your 'avin a laugh,
Waddo has lead you up t'garden path !

It's all gone wrong, he will confess,
It'll be on t'front page of the Press.
Don't cheat, don't lie or you will weep
For promises you cannot keep
Don't give up the day job.

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
9:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

A job ? What's that then ?

Haywire says...
8:41am Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
York Council are scr*wed with their housing targets and will not meet them in the next five years.

Their Get York Building plan is a joke, and their hope that they will achieve 5,000 new homes in the next 5-7 years has failed before it has started.

In a nutshell, they have unimplemented insufficient planning permissions, which have dwindled to a critical level, because of the 50% affordable policy that was retained for almost six years. The profile of these pipeline permissions in terms of site size means that they are dependant on a massive surge in planning applications/consent

s in the next two years to increase housing completions, but, even they will not meet their targets.

They are stuffed and they know they are, but, councillors have been hoodwinked by officers who are behind the unworkable affordable targets which are to blame for the predicament.

It's time they came clean with the truth, with those responsible for the porky pies should resign, or be sacked.

It will all come out in the Press, very soon !!!!
Scarlet, you are letting your "heartfelt" interests upset you again! It's a wonder that your computer/phone can still function with all that foam over it.

In passing, do two negatives make a positive, as in the case of planning permissions? Also, do the council have some relatives involved in the Planning Permission "debacle" or should it read dependent?!

Finally, I would not pin your hopes on anything "coming out in the Press".

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
2:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Haywire wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote: York Council are scr*wed with their housing targets and will not meet them in the next five years. Their Get York Building plan is a joke, and their hope that they will achieve 5,000 new homes in the next 5-7 years has failed before it has started. In a nutshell, they have unimplemented insufficient planning permissions, which have dwindled to a critical level, because of the 50% affordable policy that was retained for almost six years. The profile of these pipeline permissions in terms of site size means that they are dependant on a massive surge in planning applications/consent s in the next two years to increase housing completions, but, even they will not meet their targets. They are stuffed and they know they are, but, councillors have been hoodwinked by officers who are behind the unworkable affordable targets which are to blame for the predicament. It's time they came clean with the truth, with those responsible for the porky pies should resign, or be sacked. It will all come out in the Press, very soon !!!!
Scarlet, you are letting your "heartfelt" interests upset you again! It's a wonder that your computer/phone can still function with all that foam over it. In passing, do two negatives make a positive, as in the case of planning permissions? Also, do the council have some relatives involved in the Planning Permission "debacle" or should it read dependent?! Finally, I would not pin your hopes on anything "coming out in the Press".
Who is telling lies ?

If CYC are so sure of their claim that they will achieve 5,000 completions in the next 5-7 years, they should prove it with a delivery plan. This is the plan that planning inspector David Vickery asked them for on 23 April 2012, at the exploratory meeting for the LDF pre-EIP event. CYC sidestepped it by withdrawing the LDF, but, they will have to do one to support the LDP at EIP in 2014. They are desperately avoiding doing one now, because it won't stack up, and hope that by the time they have to do it, that they will pull a rabit out of the hat with a surge in planning applications. It won't happen. They are stuffed.

If the Press don't expose their foul play now, they will have to report the failure when it does happen, and I'll be able to gloat and say, 'I told you so' :-)

Scarlet Pimpernel says...
4:06pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Haywire

You are totally right - the Press won't print the story.

I won't be boring you with any more 'unhinged, paranoid obsessivenes' on this issue anymore.

Adios !,

Magicman! says...
4:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

and also to install new signals and improve access at key junctions

MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS!!

I'm guessing these will go in at Naburn Lane and at Fordlands (or whatever it's called), the bus lane beuing built to avoid the traffic queues created by putting in the traffic lights in the first place!

York councils sure do love their traffic lights... we have a pointless setup on Field Lane with a stupid pinch point artifically made that serves no purpose and doesn't even have a connecton for cyclists to get onto the on-pavement cycle lane (if going from heslington to the science park or windmill lane); there's then the pointless set outside Waitrose - MFI didn't needs traffic lights so why were they put in for Waitrose? then the set on Layerthorpe/James Street, this should be a roundabout as all flows in/out are roughly equal so would create a self-regulating junction that still flowed; likewise for Eboracum Way/Heworth Green - should be a roundabout.

Magicman! says...
4:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

..>" bus lane *BEING* built"....

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