Apology after York bar names drink after illegal drug (From York Press)

Clever. Shock the YEP, get a nice headline in the paper, withdraw the item and bathe in the publicity.

Should be worth a few £000s extra a week in takings and it's cost them nothing.

A tactic as old as the hills.

well the old advertising ploy still works and the old press still falls for it.

roskoboskovic wrote:
well the old advertising ploy still works and the old press still falls for it.

Or does it?

Big Bad Wolf wrote:

roskoboskovic wrote:
well the old advertising ploy still works and the old press still falls for it.

Or does it?

Yes, they published it! As far as press advertising goes the headline is pretty good, contains the name and the location.

So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

I love the Evil Eye - great food, tasty drinks and a bit frayed around the edges.

They should have gone for the generic name and called it flunitrazepam, although that might be a bit hard to say after drinking a few of them.

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

Didnt do Blue Moon trading any harm when J A had a right dig at them and intimated he would have them shut down.

The funny thing is, the only demographic that could possibly be insulted by the name of this cocktail, is the one demographic that wouldn't enter into such a venue.

This is a Daily Mail type story, designed to keep the "outraged middle classes" suitably irritated about "modern Britain".

Then again, the Daily Mail does very well in the UK. Maybe we can expect to read more stories of "Broken Britain".

Evil Eye is a great place, good food and drinks and a nice friendly atmosphere.

Unfortunately on the weekend if fills up with a lot of rabble that really kill to mood, theres been a noticable change of clientelle over the past eyar

This is the most apaling thing I've ever heard. Never before have I found myself in such horror. Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful.

Let's use this opportunity to deal with with all the other drink names which clearly force people into crime.

Bloody Marys - they promote violence agaist people called Mary.

And Jagerbombs, which may lead someone towards a life of terrorism.

And Screwdrivers for that matter, because.. well.. they discriminate against hammers.

Over priced bar, takes ages to get served, typical York, 10 years behind everywhere else in The North.

YorkJester wrote:
Evil Eye is a great place, good food and drinks and a nice friendly atmosphere. Unfortunately on the weekend if fills up with a lot of rabble that really kill to mood, theres been a noticable change of clientelle over the past eyar

I can assure you, the clientele has remained pretty much exactly the same for a decade, ever since the Eye was an attic bar above Forever Changes.

ShunGokuSatsu wrote:

YorkJester wrote:
Evil Eye is a great place, good food and drinks and a nice friendly atmosphere. Unfortunately on the weekend if fills up with a lot of rabble that really kill to mood, theres been a noticable change of clientelle over the past eyar

I can assure you, the clientele has remained pretty much exactly the same for a decade, ever since the Eye was an attic bar above Forever Changes.

Exactly the same? Doubt it.

I used to go a lot in the early days, especially when it was just upstairs.

Now it's too busy, expensive and takes forever to be served (the last straw was the last time I went - a Thursday - and didn't get served for half an hour)

In poor taste no more seroous than that

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

It's not just "free publicity"! If they called a drink 'kiddie-raper' would that amount to 'a bit of harmless free publicity?
They have gained a degree of publicity from this article. But for the WRONG reasons.
A lot of vulnerable young people have suffered horrific sexual assaults due to their drinks being tainted with a date rape drug such as Rohypnol. To try and "promote" a drink named as such is a slap in the face to the victims. And for the premises to smugly say: "Well, it seems we went too far. Yet again." Until they do it "yet again" for more 'free publicity'.
those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

roskoboskovic wrote:
well the old advertising ploy still works and the old press still falls for it.

I was only saying that myself yesterday! It's a bit like putting horsemeat in cheap burgers, it's a filler for those who don't know better. I treat local press as entertainment, rather than providing informative news. The precursor was the Victorian penny dreadful.

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

It's not just "free publicity"! If they called a drink 'kiddie-raper' would that amount to 'a bit of harmless free publicity?
They have gained a degree of publicity from this article. But for the WRONG reasons.
A lot of vulnerable young people have suffered horrific sexual assaults due to their drinks being tainted with a date rape drug such as Rohypnol. To try and "promote" a drink named as such is a slap in the face to the victims. And for the premises to smugly say: "Well, it seems we went too far. Yet again." Until they do it "yet again" for more 'free publicity'.
those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

That must be the longest overreaction post I've ever read! Well done!

Woody G Mellor wrote:

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

It's not just "free publicity"! If they called a drink 'kiddie-raper' would that amount to 'a bit of harmless free publicity?
They have gained a degree of publicity from this article. But for the WRONG reasons.
A lot of vulnerable young people have suffered horrific sexual assaults due to their drinks being tainted with a date rape drug such as Rohypnol. To try and "promote" a drink named as such is a slap in the face to the victims. And for the premises to smugly say: "Well, it seems we went too far. Yet again." Until they do it "yet again" for more 'free publicity'.
those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

That must be the longest overreaction post I've ever read! Well done!

Of course. Concern over date rape drugs is 'over-reaction'. I assume you're one of the type that think that if a woman has had a few drinks and dressed in a miniskirt, she's "asking for it"?
A friend of mine was repeatedly assaulted following her drink being 'spiked', (just over two years ago) and she still hasn't - and probably never will be - fully recovered. The Police weren't interested. All they kept saying was, well you'd 'had a few drinks' so your account is "unreliable". She was treated as a nuisance by male officers, one of whom even made lecherous leering remarks whilst she was trying to give a statement. No specialist female officer to help, no offer of support/counselling, no medical exam...So, yes, I DO feel strongly about this issue. So I apologise for "over-reacting".
Jeez....

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

It's not just "free publicity"! If they called a drink 'kiddie-raper' would that amount to 'a bit of harmless free publicity?
They have gained a degree of publicity from this article. But for the WRONG reasons.
A lot of vulnerable young people have suffered horrific sexual assaults due to their drinks being tainted with a date rape drug such as Rohypnol. To try and "promote" a drink named as such is a slap in the face to the victims. And for the premises to smugly say: "Well, it seems we went too far. Yet again." Until they do it "yet again" for more 'free publicity'.
those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

That must be the longest overreaction post I've ever read! Well done!

Of course. Concern over date rape drugs is 'over-reaction'. I assume you're one of the type that think that if a woman has had a few drinks and dressed in a miniskirt, she's "asking for it"?
A friend of mine was repeatedly assaulted following her drink being 'spiked', (just over two years ago) and she still hasn't - and probably never will be - fully recovered. The Police weren't interested. All they kept saying was, well you'd 'had a few drinks' so your account is "unreliable". She was treated as a nuisance by male officers, one of whom even made lecherous leering remarks whilst she was trying to give a statement. No specialist female officer to help, no offer of support/counselling, no medical exam...So, yes, I DO feel strongly about this issue. So I apologise for "over-reacting".
Jeez....

"those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists"
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Come on "Deathwatch" (grrrrr). That's not really true, is it.

Admit you over-reacted.
Just a bit.
A teenie weenie little bit.

I don't like Evil Eye but I don't have a problem with the name of the drink. I also haven't raped anyone. What does that make me?

According to Deathwatch (grrrrr), you are a MONSTER!!!

I once drank sex on the beach but just ended up banging Harvey

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so **** what?' —Stephen Fry

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:

deathwatch wrote:

Woody G Mellor wrote:
So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?

It's not just "free publicity"! If they called a drink 'kiddie-raper' would that amount to 'a bit of harmless free publicity?
They have gained a degree of publicity from this article. But for the WRONG reasons.
A lot of vulnerable young people have suffered horrific sexual assaults due to their drinks being tainted with a date rape drug such as Rohypnol. To try and "promote" a drink named as such is a slap in the face to the victims. And for the premises to smugly say: "Well, it seems we went too far. Yet again." Until they do it "yet again" for more 'free publicity'.
those that don't see this as a problem are as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

That must be the longest overreaction post I've ever read! Well done!

Of course. Concern over date rape drugs is 'over-reaction'. I assume you're one of the type that think that if a woman has had a few drinks and dressed in a miniskirt, she's "asking for it"?
A friend of mine was repeatedly assaulted following her drink being 'spiked', (just over two years ago) and she still hasn't - and probably never will be - fully recovered. The Police weren't interested. All they kept saying was, well you'd 'had a few drinks' so your account is "unreliable". She was treated as a nuisance by male officers, one of whom even made lecherous leering remarks whilst she was trying to give a statement. No specialist female officer to help, no offer of support/counselling, no medical exam...So, yes, I DO feel strongly about this issue. So I apologise for "over-reacting".
Jeez....

But it ok for you to write, (directed at me)

"I assume you're one of the type that think that if a woman has had a few drinks and dressed in a miniskirt, she's "asking for it"?

Just because I said there is nothing wrong with a bit of free advertising! Jeez!

I also used to like the punk band The Dead Kennedys. Am I a political assassin also?

Prob wrote:

ShunGokuSatsu wrote:

YorkJester wrote:
Evil Eye is a great place, good food and drinks and a nice friendly atmosphere. Unfortunately on the weekend if fills up with a lot of rabble that really kill to mood, theres been a noticable change of clientelle over the past eyar

I can assure you, the clientele has remained pretty much exactly the same for a decade, ever since the Eye was an attic bar above Forever Changes.

Exactly the same? Doubt it.

I used to go a lot in the early days, especially when it was just upstairs.

Now it's too busy, expensive and takes forever to be served (the last straw was the last time I went - a Thursday - and didn't get served for half an hour)

The demographic certainly has changed. Evil Eye used to be cool. Not anymore.

The worst thing that ever happened to the place was getting rumbled by Health & Safety for having 3 floors packed full and only one fire escape. An anomaly from the old internet cafe days. Before that it was ridiculously packed, full of smokers, probably unsafe and smelt a little funny. But that was why it was cool - all part of the atmosphere.

Now it's full of middle-aged bores who think it's still the place to go and bar staff up their own backside. York is crying out for a new Evil Eye (circa 2004/5).

@Deathwatch
Clearly one of the people who keep buying the Daily Fail and create a market for such stories!

MrChuckles wrote:
@Deathwatch
Clearly one of the people who keep buying the Daily Fail and create a market for such stories!

Yup.

According to deathwatch, I assume that if a woman has had a few drinks and dressed in a miniskirt, she's "asking for it"?

Also I'm "as bad as the rapists who carry out these type of cowardly attacks on vulnerable young people.

All because I wrote.

"So a local business gets some free publicity. What's wrong with that?"

Jeez..... Who's over reacting?

Deathwatch you're a clown. I do get your perspective but you over-insinuate average guys like me who don't have a problem with the name itself are to be branded the same as the scum who carry out the attacks?

You over-reacted - get a grip.

TCJYork wrote:

Prob wrote:

ShunGokuSatsu wrote:

YorkJester wrote: Evil Eye is a great place, good food and drinks and a nice friendly atmosphere. Unfortunately on the weekend if fills up with a lot of rabble that really kill to mood, theres been a noticable change of clientelle over the past eyar

I can assure you, the clientele has remained pretty much exactly the same for a decade, ever since the Eye was an attic bar above Forever Changes.

Exactly the same? Doubt it. I used to go a lot in the early days, especially when it was just upstairs. Now it's too busy, expensive and takes forever to be served (the last straw was the last time I went - a Thursday - and didn't get served for half an hour)

The demographic certainly has changed. Evil Eye used to be cool. Not anymore. The worst thing that ever happened to the place was getting rumbled by Health & Safety for having 3 floors packed full and only one fire escape. An anomaly from the old internet cafe days. Before that it was ridiculously packed, full of smokers, probably unsafe and smelt a little funny. But that was why it was cool - all part of the atmosphere. Now it's full of middle-aged bores who think it's still the place to go and bar staff up their own backside. York is crying out for a new Evil Eye (circa 2004/5).

Indeed, I can cope with the odd smell, vile toilets, general stickyness, lack of cleaning, bad layout and irritating clientele as it can at times have a great atmosphere, but the sneering, 'you're not as cool as I think I am' attitude of the staff is the one thing that stops me going in anymore

Rather than all this puerile nonsense, the management should concern themselves more with improving their abysmally slow service - no point in offering excellent Asian food when it takes an age to order,then to wait for ages to get it ( by then half cold) and, to add insult to injury, having to wait ages to pay one's bill!!