Family bid for Richard III's return

Richard III

Richard III

First published in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , richard.catton@thepress.co.uk

THE war of words over where Richard III’s final resting place should be has now seen descendants of the dead king call for him to be buried in York.

Stephen Nicolay, who claims the controversial monarch as his 15th great uncle, said Richard’s final resting place should “without question” be York Minster, while Charles Brunner, a descendant of Richard’s sister, Anne of York, said: “We repatriate those who give their lives in battle, so why is this any different?”

York Minster, whose new dean comes from Leicester, has said it does not want the bones to be buried there.

However, the calls continue to grow for the remains to come to York, and a petition has now gathered more than 15,000 signatures.

Meanwhile, council leaders from all parties in Yorkshire and the north-east are voicing their support, including Bill Dixon, leader of Darlington, Tim Fox leader of Scarborough and Linda Cowling, leader of Ryedale.

James Alexander, leader of City of York Council, said: “As there is no precedent for this extraordinary situation, we have a duty to represent the voice of local people and have submitted appropriate representation to be considered by the respective authorities.

“A number of his descendants have appealed to us to uphold their ancestor’s known living wishes to be buried in York where the king was establishing a chantry of 100 priests. By the time of his death in 1485, six altars were already in place in the Minster where prayers for his and his family’s souls were said.”

Sandra Wadley, chairman of the Society of Friends of King Richard III, said: “York was Richard’s city, the people of York loved him and Richard loved York. You only have to look in York city archives to see how much he was loved.”

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To sign the petition, go to bringbackrichard.co.uk

• A German academic working with City of York Council’s archives service has recreated the medieval bread presented to Richard III when he visited the city in 1482. 

Richard was presented with a kind of bread unique to the city called “mayne” – a rich and spicy loaf made for special occasions and traditionally presented to Royal or noble visitors by the Mayor, Sheriff and Aldermen.  

Coun Sonja Crisp, the council’s cabinet member for leisure, culture and tourism, said: “The art of making it was lost in the 17th century, but attempts to reconstruct the recipe have been underway since the 1950s.

“Now, after working with archive staff to collect all references to the bread in the city’s records, Dr Almute Grohmann-Sinz, a German academic, believes she has developed a mixture close to the medieval original.”

This week, staff received a parcel containing the final version of the bread. 

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9:05am Sat 9 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

This situation is obviously not a decision to be made by one or two people at the Minster. Thousands have made their feelings clear. It's the thousands that should be listened too.
This situation is obviously not a decision to be made by one or two people at the Minster. Thousands have made their feelings clear. It's the thousands that should be listened too. Woody G Mellor
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9:08am Sat 9 Feb 13

MrChuckles says...

Although I believe that the archaeological pre-excavation agreements should be followed. This is a unique, historical and moral situation that needs to be looked at carefully. I do think he should be brought back to York.
Although I believe that the archaeological pre-excavation agreements should be followed. This is a unique, historical and moral situation that needs to be looked at carefully. I do think he should be brought back to York. MrChuckles
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10:03am Sat 9 Feb 13

voiceofnormalpeople says...

What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?
What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron? voiceofnormalpeople
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10:24am Sat 9 Feb 13

JV1966 says...

you just don't get it!
you just don't get it! JV1966
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10:42am Sat 9 Feb 13

MLewisW says...

voiceofnormalpeople wrote:
What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?
The Dean is a woman. You may want to take a greater interest in 'your' Minster before you treat it like your own and spread slander. "Moron".
[quote][p][bold]voiceofnormalpeople[/bold] wrote: What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?[/p][/quote]The Dean is a woman. You may want to take a greater interest in 'your' Minster before you treat it like your own and spread slander. "Moron". MLewisW
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10:43am Sat 9 Feb 13

johnabostock says...

voiceofnormalpeople wrote:
What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?
Would be nice if you got your facts correct. The new Dean of York is not a HE but a SHE, and she comes from Leicester. Can`t you see the link there.
How apart reading the news accurately instead of jumping in with both feet1
[quote][p][bold]voiceofnormalpeople[/bold] wrote: What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?[/p][/quote]Would be nice if you got your facts correct. The new Dean of York is not a HE but a SHE, and she comes from Leicester. Can`t you see the link there. How apart reading the news accurately instead of jumping in with both feet1 johnabostock
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10:58am Sat 9 Feb 13

RingoStarr says...

YORK: Sampson
DEAN: Delilah
YORK: Sampson DEAN: Delilah RingoStarr
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12:08pm Sat 9 Feb 13

bob the builder says...

English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made.
English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made. bob the builder
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12:56pm Sat 9 Feb 13

wolfpaw1972 says...

bob the builder wrote:
English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made.
King John was moved across half the country to be buried in Worcester after he died in Newark. Mary Queen of Scots was moved from Peterborough Abbey to Westminster. Henry VI was moved from Chertsey Abbey to St George's Chapel. Royal remains have often been moved around.

Anyway, the key point for me is how on earth a decision of such importance can be left to a biased academic university department?! The licence says that the bones can be buried in *any* consecrated ground where interments can take place. The decision is solely that of the university.

In four hundred years time, when people ask 'why was Richard III buried in Leicester cathedral?' the answer will be 'because that's where the University of Leicester decided'.

York or Westminster are the only two viable options and, even though I don't live in the north, my strong preference is for York Minster.
[quote][p][bold]bob the builder[/bold] wrote: English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made.[/p][/quote]King John was moved across half the country to be buried in Worcester after he died in Newark. Mary Queen of Scots was moved from Peterborough Abbey to Westminster. Henry VI was moved from Chertsey Abbey to St George's Chapel. Royal remains have often been moved around. Anyway, the key point for me is how on earth a decision of such importance can be left to a biased academic university department?! The licence says that the bones can be buried in *any* consecrated ground where interments can take place. The decision is solely that of the university. In four hundred years time, when people ask 'why was Richard III buried in Leicester cathedral?' the answer will be 'because that's where the University of Leicester decided'. York or Westminster are the only two viable options and, even though I don't live in the north, my strong preference is for York Minster. wolfpaw1972
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1:18pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Sillybillies says...

Isn't the support for a York burial coming from Hugh Bayley and the Archbishop of York wonderful? The first is elected and can be got rid of at the next election, the latter we are lumbered with.

Neither give a stuff about York. Well done James Alexander and Julian Sturdy who clearly do.
Isn't the support for a York burial coming from Hugh Bayley and the Archbishop of York wonderful? The first is elected and can be got rid of at the next election, the latter we are lumbered with. Neither give a stuff about York. Well done James Alexander and Julian Sturdy who clearly do. Sillybillies
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2:41pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Sillybillies wrote:
Isn't the support for a York burial coming from Hugh Bayley and the Archbishop of York wonderful? The first is elected and can be got rid of at the next election, the latter we are lumbered with.

Neither give a stuff about York. Well done James Alexander and Julian Sturdy who clearly do.
Well said!

It's about time Hugh and John gave their view.
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: Isn't the support for a York burial coming from Hugh Bayley and the Archbishop of York wonderful? The first is elected and can be got rid of at the next election, the latter we are lumbered with. Neither give a stuff about York. Well done James Alexander and Julian Sturdy who clearly do.[/p][/quote]Well said! It's about time Hugh and John gave their view. Woody G Mellor
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3:31pm Sat 9 Feb 13

R'Marcus says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
This situation is obviously not a decision to be made by one or two people at the Minster. Thousands have made their feelings clear. It's the thousands that should be listened too.
Well written, Woody.
King Richard III is OUR king, and has always was.
He was a good king, and did many good things for the people of York during his short life.
Echoing those many thousands of people, the remains of King Richard III must be finally be rested in York Minister.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: This situation is obviously not a decision to be made by one or two people at the Minster. Thousands have made their feelings clear. It's the thousands that should be listened too.[/p][/quote]Well written, Woody. King Richard III is OUR king, and has always was. He was a good king, and did many good things for the people of York during his short life. Echoing those many thousands of people, the remains of King Richard III must be finally be rested in York Minister. R'Marcus
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3:38pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Sillybillies says...

Number who have signed the petition to bury Richard at York Minster now 17,137
Number who have signed the petition to bury Richard at York Minster now 17,137 Sillybillies
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3:39pm Sat 9 Feb 13

R'Marcus says...

bob the builder wrote:
English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made.
Richard III was a GOOD king during his short life, as many well-read historians know.
"History" from 1470 was mostly the work of William Shakespeare, an arden Tudor supporter and protagantist for the Tudors. It was Shakespeare painted Richard III in a very bad picture.
[quote][p][bold]bob the builder[/bold] wrote: English monarchs should be buried at Westminster if not re-interred as near as possible to their first burial. Amazing how all these 'relatives' and 'supporters' appear now his body has been located, shown to have been ill treated and history re-interpreted to suggest he was a 'good' king, after all with good publicity comes money to be made.[/p][/quote]Richard III was a GOOD king during his short life, as many well-read historians know. "History" from 1470 was mostly the work of William Shakespeare, an arden Tudor supporter and protagantist for the Tudors. It was Shakespeare painted Richard III in a very bad picture. R'Marcus
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5:04pm Sat 9 Feb 13

again says...

Posterity will scratch its head in bemusement if Richard III is re-interred anywhere else but York!

They will assume we have lost our marbles! It will be all Greek to them.
Posterity will scratch its head in bemusement if Richard III is re-interred anywhere else but York! They will assume we have lost our marbles! It will be all Greek to them. again
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6:58pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Mullarkian says...

Why York Minster? - just to drag in more tourists!
Put him in Sheriff Hutton where one of his homes was and he will be in the company of his son.
Why York Minster? - just to drag in more tourists! Put him in Sheriff Hutton where one of his homes was and he will be in the company of his son. Mullarkian
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8:27pm Sat 9 Feb 13

voiceofnormalpeople says...

MLewisW wrote:
voiceofnormalpeople wrote:
What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?
The Dean is a woman. You may want to take a greater interest in 'your' Minster before you treat it like your own and spread slander. "Moron".
spread slander? grow up and stop over exaggerating. So the dean is a women, and? whats the difference in that relating to her opinion? male of female why does a person from leicester have a say in if he is buried at york? And the term "our" means every ones not the deans own building to make decisions on.
[quote][p][bold]MLewisW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]voiceofnormalpeople[/bold] wrote: What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?[/p][/quote]The Dean is a woman. You may want to take a greater interest in 'your' Minster before you treat it like your own and spread slander. "Moron".[/p][/quote]spread slander? grow up and stop over exaggerating. So the dean is a women, and? whats the difference in that relating to her opinion? male of female why does a person from leicester have a say in if he is buried at york? And the term "our" means every ones not the deans own building to make decisions on. voiceofnormalpeople
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8:29pm Sat 9 Feb 13

voiceofnormalpeople says...

johnabostock wrote:
voiceofnormalpeople wrote:
What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?
Would be nice if you got your facts correct. The new Dean of York is not a HE but a SHE, and she comes from Leicester. Can`t you see the link there.
How apart reading the news accurately instead of jumping in with both feet1
Obviously aa freind of MlewisW. Yawn.
[quote][p][bold]johnabostock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]voiceofnormalpeople[/bold] wrote: What the hell does it have to do with the new dean of york? Why has he said he doesn't want them here? he just works in the minster not owns it. It is more our minster than his. It would be good for york as it would bring more visitors and that means more money and more publicity for this city. What is there not to like about the prospect of a city surrounded by walls, a castle and a minster and the prospect of a king buried here? Is the dean a moron?[/p][/quote]Would be nice if you got your facts correct. The new Dean of York is not a HE but a SHE, and she comes from Leicester. Can`t you see the link there. How apart reading the news accurately instead of jumping in with both feet1[/p][/quote]Obviously aa freind of MlewisW. Yawn. voiceofnormalpeople
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10:27pm Sat 9 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

Alas-my kingdom for a burger..whoops i mean horse,just got a bit confused been eating a lot of food out of my freezer lately...
king richard 111 .. belongs to york..he is our true king..unlike the impostors we have now..this great king died on the battlefield alongside other men and so deserves our upmost respect and gratitude..and her in doors at the palace needs to make a statement...
Alas-my kingdom for a burger..whoops i mean horse,just got a bit confused been eating a lot of food out of my freezer lately... king richard 111 .. belongs to york..he is our true king..unlike the impostors we have now..this great king died on the battlefield alongside other men and so deserves our upmost respect and gratitude..and her in doors at the palace needs to make a statement... redbluelion
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10:54pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

This is now out of the hands of academics and archeologists per-written agreements. The decision should be with the thousands of voices voting their opinion.

Out of interest. Does anyone know if there is a petition to keep RichardIII in Leicester, and how many votes they have gathered?
This is now out of the hands of academics and archeologists per-written agreements. The decision should be with the thousands of voices voting their opinion. Out of interest. Does anyone know if there is a petition to keep RichardIII in Leicester, and how many votes they have gathered? Woody G Mellor
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1:36am Sun 10 Feb 13

Chrido81 says...

I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.
I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them. Chrido81
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9:35am Sun 10 Feb 13

Mr Anderson says...

Chrido81 wrote:
I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.
I think we can.
[quote][p][bold]Chrido81[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.[/p][/quote]I think we can. Mr Anderson
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10:53am Sun 10 Feb 13

Magritte says...

Mr Anderson wrote:
Chrido81 wrote:
I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.
I think we can.
So do I!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Anderson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrido81[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.[/p][/quote]I think we can.[/p][/quote]So do I! Magritte
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11:18am Sun 10 Feb 13

Derbyricardian says...

I live in Derby,just 30 miles from Leicester,but I believe that the remains of King Richard should be laid to rest in the Minster. Anybody who is familiar with the King's life knows that both spiritually,and historically,he belongs in York where he was loved and respected,and not in Leicestershire,the place of his early death and disrespectful burial.
I live in Derby,just 30 miles from Leicester,but I believe that the remains of King Richard should be laid to rest in the Minster. Anybody who is familiar with the King's life knows that both spiritually,and historically,he belongs in York where he was loved and respected,and not in Leicestershire,the place of his early death and disrespectful burial. Derbyricardian
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1:11pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Magritte wrote:
Mr Anderson wrote:
Chrido81 wrote:
I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.
I think we can.
So do I!
So do I.
[quote][p][bold]Magritte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Anderson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrido81[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is a debate on this matter. I mean, we can't force York Minster to take the remains if they don't want them.[/p][/quote]I think we can.[/p][/quote]So do I![/p][/quote]So do I. Woody G Mellor
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3:34pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Seadog says...

Voiceofnormalpeople and others:-

The new Dean of York is indeed a woman. She only "comes from Leicester" in the sense that she was previously the Dean of Leicester. Deans may not own their cathedrals (it's not entirely clear who does, actually!) but they are (primus interpares at least) the most senior people in them - roughly the equivalent of a CEO of a major company. Even Bishops and Archbishops are obliged to respect their authority within cathedral precincts. Even Sentamu cannot attend a Chapter meeting uninvited - unless he has a Royal Warrant to do so.

Incidentally, the last burial of (uncremated) remains in York Minster took place in 1836. In that year the Chapter took the decision to allow no more, thanks to overcrowding. A few years later (1850s I think) an Order in Council was issued, forbidding any further burials in any church or churchyard within York's walls.

I suppose all this might be overturned by due process, but I imagine it would be a lengthy and expensive operation.
Voiceofnormalpeople and others:- The new Dean of York is indeed a woman. She only "comes from Leicester" in the sense that she was previously the Dean of Leicester. Deans may not own their cathedrals (it's not entirely clear who does, actually!) but they are (primus interpares at least) the most senior people in them - roughly the equivalent of a CEO of a major company. Even Bishops and Archbishops are obliged to respect their authority within cathedral precincts. Even Sentamu cannot attend a Chapter meeting uninvited - unless he has a Royal Warrant to do so. Incidentally, the last burial of (uncremated) remains in York Minster took place in 1836. In that year the Chapter took the decision to allow no more, thanks to overcrowding. A few years later (1850s I think) an Order in Council was issued, forbidding any further burials in any church or churchyard within York's walls. I suppose all this might be overturned by due process, but I imagine it would be a lengthy and expensive operation. Seadog
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4:09pm Sun 10 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

Morally, York Minster .If for profit between Leicester and York, then Westminster.
Morally, York Minster .If for profit between Leicester and York, then Westminster. yorkborn66
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5:41pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Seadog says...

Someone made a very good case for Fotheringhay in yesterday's Guardian letters. (It wasn't me, by the way, passionate "guardianista" though I am !)
Someone made a very good case for Fotheringhay in yesterday's Guardian letters. (It wasn't me, by the way, passionate "guardianista" though I am !) Seadog
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5:47pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Mr Anderson says...

Seadog wrote:
Someone made a very good case for Fotheringhay in yesterday's Guardian letters. (It wasn't me, by the way, passionate "guardianista" though I am !)
Do you have link?
[quote][p][bold]Seadog[/bold] wrote: Someone made a very good case for Fotheringhay in yesterday's Guardian letters. (It wasn't me, by the way, passionate "guardianista" though I am !)[/p][/quote]Do you have link? Mr Anderson
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5:57pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Seadog says...

Erm ... probably! But I'm not very IT literate. Just google Guardian Letters, I suppose!
Erm ... probably! But I'm not very IT literate. Just google Guardian Letters, I suppose! Seadog
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6:22pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Mr Anderson says...

Seadog wrote:
Erm ... probably! But I'm not very IT literate. Just google Guardian Letters, I suppose!
Ok. Thanks. I'll have a google.
[quote][p][bold]Seadog[/bold] wrote: Erm ... probably! But I'm not very IT literate. Just google Guardian Letters, I suppose![/p][/quote]Ok. Thanks. I'll have a google. Mr Anderson
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1:19am Mon 11 Feb 13

the butler says...

How did his bones end up where they were found, at his last stand?I guess his favourite horse had gone on before him, left him in the lurch.......
How did his bones end up where they were found, at his last stand?I guess his favourite horse had gone on before him, left him in the lurch....... the butler
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9:29am Mon 11 Feb 13

knibbsie says...

I am from Leicester but completly agree that Richard III should be buried in York - it is quite obviously where he would have wanted to be buried and that is the moral and ethical stand - to bury someone where they do not want to is the historical equivalent of burying the following:- convicted murderers, suicides (at least felo de se), paupers, pirates and traitors - such exalted company do the people of Leicester want to bung "their" warrior king into!
I am from Leicester but completly agree that Richard III should be buried in York - it is quite obviously where he would have wanted to be buried and that is the moral and ethical stand - to bury someone where they do not want to is the historical equivalent of burying the following:- convicted murderers, suicides (at least felo de se), paupers, pirates and traitors - such exalted company do the people of Leicester want to bung "their" warrior king into! knibbsie
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9:25am Tue 12 Feb 13

Old_Town_Leicester says...

Knibbsie, are you really from Leicester?

No-one knows where Richard wanted to be buried. Leave him to rest in peace in Leicester, where he has been for so long...
Knibbsie, are you really from Leicester? No-one knows where Richard wanted to be buried. Leave him to rest in peace in Leicester, where he has been for so long... Old_Town_Leicester
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