‘Grave concerns’ over plan to move police HQ

COUNCILLORS say they have “grave concerns” about proposals to move North Yorkshire Police’s headquarters.

The pledge to move the force from its 17th century manor-house at Newby Wiske to a modern base were laid out in the draft police and crime plan published on Monday by Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) Julia Mulligan.

It said the current headquarters, near Northallerton, cost £820,000 a year to run. In her crime plan, Mrs Mulligan reaffirmed her proposal to sell off the Grade II listed building and replace it with a new base and custody suite at another site in Hambleton, yet to be named.

But chairman of Thornton-le-Moor with Thornton-le-Street Parish Council, Coun Ian Woods and Hambleton District Councillor, Robert Baker, have criticised the proposal, saying they have yet to see any facts or figures supporting it.

Mrs Mulligan has said the draft police and crime plan is designed to be an outline of ideas and objectives she wants the force to achieve over the next few years. She said the next step is for a full business plan for the move to be drawn up in consultation with police and other bodies.

Mr Woods criticised the way the argument for moving the 450 staff out of the current headquarters was presented in the crime plan draft.

The draft states the outcome of replacing Newby Wiske Hall as: “Over the long term, reduced running costs and greater efficiency; improved accessibility, power, infrastructure and agile working spaces; maximising the market value of Newby Wiske Hall leading to its efficient disposal.”

Mr Woods said: “For goodness sake, what is an ‘agile work space’? This is something that affects people’s working conditions and people’s lives.

“This is on the table. It needs a proper public consultation and a staff consultation. Are they really unhappy with their offices? Are they really unfit for purpose?

“We have grave concerns about this.”

Mr Woods said he thought the proposals should look at how the current site could be made more profitable.

Mrs Mulligan said it was too early for councillors to be “making assumptions” based on what was so far an outline proposal.

She said they were welcome to get involved in the forthcoming business plan that would look in detail at the future of North Yorkshire’s headquarters.

She said: “The concerns they raised are legitimate, I have no issue with that, but it’s a little bit early for them to be making assumptions.”

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8:29am Thu 7 Feb 13

Alpha Kenny Thing says...

What a pointless exercise.

Get more feet on the streets (and not Specials or PCSO's)

Monitor CCTV 24 hrs a day.
What a pointless exercise. Get more feet on the streets (and not Specials or PCSO's) Monitor CCTV 24 hrs a day. Alpha Kenny Thing
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8:38am Thu 7 Feb 13

bolero says...

What about the assumption on Mrs Mulligan's part that there will be somewhere suitable for the new HQ. A lot more detail required on this one so that people can make decisions based on fact rather than wild ideas.
What about the assumption on Mrs Mulligan's part that there will be somewhere suitable for the new HQ. A lot more detail required on this one so that people can make decisions based on fact rather than wild ideas. bolero
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8:48am Thu 7 Feb 13

colette says...

"agile working space"? If this is the desk-sharing type of initiative of the "office of the future", it may save money, but will inevitably lead to an unhappy workforce and therefore possibly reduced efficiency. I do hope the workforce is going to be involved in any consultation process. I reserve judgement yet on the proposals, as the final details haven't been published, but as a council-tax payer, I am a little concerned that the first action of the commissioner should be one which is initially likely to be expensive and disruptive - how long will it take before the savings recoup the costs?
"agile working space"? If this is the desk-sharing type of initiative of the "office of the future", it may save money, but will inevitably lead to an unhappy workforce and therefore possibly reduced efficiency. I do hope the workforce is going to be involved in any consultation process. I reserve judgement yet on the proposals, as the final details haven't been published, but as a council-tax payer, I am a little concerned that the first action of the commissioner should be one which is initially likely to be expensive and disruptive - how long will it take before the savings recoup the costs? colette
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11:16am Thu 7 Feb 13

Pete the Brickie says...



Grave concerns’ over plan to move police HQ



I hope for the police people's sake there's no substance to this story and there are no plans to build the new HQ on top of an existing cemetery. They are sensitive to the cold and dark and forced to take their maximum sick allocation already. The last thing they need is a new building affected by sudden changes in temperature or blood running out of the taps causing all manner of sniffles and sudden onset of back pain.
[quote] Grave concerns’ over plan to move police HQ [/quote] I hope for the police people's sake there's no substance to this story and there are no plans to build the new HQ on top of an existing cemetery. They are sensitive to the cold and dark and forced to take their maximum sick allocation already. The last thing they need is a new building affected by sudden changes in temperature or blood running out of the taps causing all manner of sniffles and sudden onset of back pain. Pete the Brickie
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12:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Capt. Dobie says...

Maybe she's thinking about exisiting unused business units around the area- Catterick, Northallerton, edge of York?

What about fitting solar panels or wind turbines to aid running costs?

What about stopping PCs from nipping home in work vans/ patrol cars for their, ahem, afternoon delights/ lunch?

How much does the Chief Constables shower room cost to heat? :-)

OR...Educate PC Plod so that if it's hot, don't turn the Air Con up, turn the heating down...or take your jumper off (or vice-versa?)...

...check on on-line satellite image of where the site is Dear Reader- the majority of the building is failry modern and not C17th. So, if it's mainly a modern building, it isn't necessarily inefficient, it's being used BADLY...
Maybe she's thinking about exisiting unused business units around the area- Catterick, Northallerton, edge of York? What about fitting solar panels or wind turbines to aid running costs? What about stopping PCs from nipping home in work vans/ patrol cars for their, ahem, afternoon delights/ lunch? How much does the Chief Constables shower room cost to heat? :-) OR...Educate PC Plod so that if it's hot, don't turn the Air Con up, turn the heating down...or take your jumper off (or vice-versa?)... ...check on on-line satellite image of where the site is Dear Reader- the majority of the building is failry modern and not C17th. So, if it's mainly a modern building, it isn't necessarily inefficient, it's being used BADLY... Capt. Dobie
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12:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13

meme says...

Its wortha fortune as residential and there are plenty of cheap offices around so they could save a fortune
Move to a basic building... NOT a glass palace
Its wortha fortune as residential and there are plenty of cheap offices around so they could save a fortune Move to a basic building... NOT a glass palace meme
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9:19am Fri 8 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

With narrow, winding roads as access and an outer presence that would make a good scene-setter for a remake of Poldark, this building is an anachronism and a doubtful statement for modern, 21st century policing! Also, it is hardly central to all of the County and though Hambleton District councillors may not like this, a HQ would be far better, if positioned further south and nearer to York, somewhere near the confluence of the A1/A59/A64 road networks, with closer links/conections to the metropolitan areas of West and South Yorkshire and parts of Humberside. eg.Outer York(A59/A64/A19) or Boroughbridge(A1) areas' and as part of any move towards this, look to any existing buildings that can be easily adapted to what will essentially be, an administrative hub. If not, then commission a purpose built building, financed by the sale of the existing property, assuming that this is owned and not leased/rented. Newby Wiske Hall would be be a very saleable property for example, to a hotel chain, recreational centre, care/rest home business or, even a gaming establishment.
With narrow, winding roads as access and an outer presence that would make a good scene-setter for a remake of Poldark, this building is an anachronism and a doubtful statement for modern, 21st century policing! Also, it is hardly central to all of the County and though Hambleton District councillors may not like this, a HQ would be far better, if positioned further south and nearer to York, somewhere near the confluence of the A1/A59/A64 road networks, with closer links/conections to the metropolitan areas of West and South Yorkshire and parts of Humberside. eg.Outer York(A59/A64/A19) or Boroughbridge(A1) areas' and as part of any move towards this, look to any existing buildings that can be easily adapted to what will essentially be, an administrative hub. If not, then commission a purpose built building, financed by the sale of the existing property, assuming that this is owned and not leased/rented. Newby Wiske Hall would be be a very saleable property for example, to a hotel chain, recreational centre, care/rest home business or, even a gaming establishment. RooBeck
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