Mobility scooter driver pulled into oncoming traffic on one way street (From York Press)

Users of mobility scooters appear to have no regard for their own safety or the safety of others.They should have to pass a simple test before they can use one, nothing official just the supplier asks the potential user questions about road safety and then see if they can control the scooter.

There's plenty of able bodied drivers who wind me up! Including the lorry driver in the picture whose parked on a double yellow line!

Crossing Clifton brigde on saturday at 12.30 a mobility scooter was slowly going down the carriageway when there are huge pavements/cycle track on both sides at some point. It was an accident waiting to happen

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
There's plenty of able bodied drivers who wind me up! Including the lorry driver in the picture whose parked on a double yellow line!

Stopping to load/unload your vehicle is permitted on DYLs unless there is a specific loading restriction. Loading is restricted Mon-Sat 8.00-9.15 and 16.00-18.00 on the street in question so more information is needed to determine if the lorry drive was commiting an offence. I would guess though, that with him being a professional driver, he is aware of the restrictions and arranged the delivery at a suitable time.

Agree with Garrowby. Lorry is illegally parked on yellow lines,on road junction,if you look at the head/shoulder height of person on scooter there is a obstruction at rear of lorry.

It looks pretty obvious that the lady's way on the path is blocked from the covers hanging down from the vehicle. She has decided to go round like a pedestrian would. Still a tricky move though.

I was in Morrisons on Sunday and there was an old lunatic on a mobility scooter, he was driving far too fast through the supermarket and he could have easily knocked over a small child. It's about time they were made to pass a test and if they drive on the roads they should pay tax.

electricwarrior wrote:
It looks pretty obvious that the lady's way on the path is blocked from the covers hanging down from the vehicle. She has decided to go round like a pedestrian would. Still a tricky move though.

Agreed the scooter user has been put in a no win situation by the lorry driver as the side curtains are blocking the pavement, I think the anonymous person who took the picture needs to go to the optician

Maybe the scooter rider should have asked the lorry driver to let them past? Or is that too much like common sense.

Is this news?

I know a bloke at work in *enter your place of work* who left a fork in the knife drawer in the canteen...just goes to show..err...somethin
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I'm pretty sure that lorry is a drinks delivery to the pub which is clearly in view, and therefore reasonable to assume that it needs to be there. Furthermore, unless the old dear is completely blind, there would have been ample opportunity to cross the road further away from the lorry. Seriously use your brains. Being disabled is something which can not be helped, but it's no excuse for stupidity.

The lorry might not be illegally parked. It is clearly loading / unloading and the photo doesn't show any loading restrictions being in force. Double yellow lines have a precise meaning, defined in the highway code - they don't actually mean "no parking at any time" although many think they do.

Off topic, but yiou can also stop on double yellow lines, e.g outside a school, to wait to pikc your child up. (not on zig zag areas though).

Also YP, the comment about tax discs is wrong. DVLA local offices say mobility scooters within class 3 fall into 2 sub categories, and only the heavier ones can be issued with a nil duty disc. The one pictured is almost certainly in the lighter sub category.

Incidentally, the correct manoeuvre, as someone else said, would be to cross the road further back, and then use the pavement on that side.

I deliver to pubs in york and its a nightmare in your streets your lucky you get any deliveries in your city, us delivery drivers are look upon as scum the lowest of the lowest in my opinion and experiences of city deliveries, we dont want to block footpaths and access but sometime there is no alternative its a cause of have 15 minutes of inconvience or have no goods in your shops and pubs

clm058 wrote:
I deliver to pubs in york and its a nightmare in your streets your lucky you get any deliveries in your city, us delivery drivers are look upon as scum the lowest of the lowest in my opinion and experiences of city deliveries, we dont want to block footpaths and access but sometime there is no alternative its a cause of have 15 minutes of inconvience or have no goods in your shops and pubs

This is not a regular pub delivery. The lorry is badged up as Amari Plastics plc whose website says...

"Amari Plastics is dedicated to the distribution of semi finished sheet, rod, tube and profiles to the industrial, sign & display, digital printing, fabrication and engineering markets throughout the UK"

The only dealings with the pub I could suggest is that he's stopped there for his lunch.

Or maybe he was delivering to one of the many other properties in the area?

For example, the sign shop that he has stopped in front of.

I`m going to throw a spanner in the works here - I suggest a lot of people have these things because they are just too overweight to walk around the shops.
OK, a lot of genuinely disabled people get a new lease of life and some freedom from these. But having seen an awful lot of people who have health issues because of obesity, wouldn`t it be better to walk if you can? I have seen people get out of them mid-shop and take a walk around the supermarket.
I know I`m not going to be popular for saying it but in some cases this is very true. (I am prepared for a backlash here)
As for the story above - if you read it the witness said the driver of the scooter was already going the wrong way down the one way street, before they got to the lorry - Quote "he had been astonished to see the woman drive the wrong way down Nunnery Lane for about 70 metres before reaching the lorry." So the scooter driver was breaking the law not the delivery driver who was just trying to do his job. It is entirely feasible that a person who has no road awareness and has never taken a driving test and maybe has issues with sight or hearing could be driving one of these vehicles on the road. Personally, I don`t want to share the road with them, it`s hazardous enough as it is.

inthesticks wrote:
I`m going to throw a spanner in the works here - I suggest a lot of people have these things because they are just too overweight to walk around the shops. OK, a lot of genuinely disabled people get a new lease of life and some freedom from these. But having seen an awful lot of people who have health issues because of obesity, wouldn`t it be better to walk if you can? I have seen people get out of them mid-shop and take a walk around the supermarket. I know I`m not going to be popular for saying it but in some cases this is very true. (I am prepared for a backlash here) As for the story above - if you read it the witness said the driver of the scooter was already going the wrong way down the one way street, before they got to the lorry - Quote "he had been astonished to see the woman drive the wrong way down Nunnery Lane for about 70 metres before reaching the lorry." So the scooter driver was breaking the law not the delivery driver who was just trying to do his job. It is entirely feasible that a person who has no road awareness and has never taken a driving test and maybe has issues with sight or hearing could be driving one of these vehicles on the road. Personally, I don`t want to share the road with them, it`s hazardous enough as it is.

Totally agree - the majority of mobility scooter users are indeed just too fat and too lazy. Only a small percent can't actually walk

Capt. Dobie wrote:
Is this news?

I know a bloke at work in *enter your place of work* who left a fork in the knife drawer in the canteen...just goes to show..err...somethin

g...

I didn't know you worked here! Remember the lass who purposefully kept putting the staples in the paperclip cupboard. Now she was a right one....

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:

clm058 wrote:
I deliver to pubs in york and its a nightmare in your streets your lucky you get any deliveries in your city, us delivery drivers are look upon as scum the lowest of the lowest in my opinion and experiences of city deliveries, we dont want to block footpaths and access but sometime there is no alternative its a cause of have 15 minutes of inconvience or have no goods in your shops and pubs

This is not a regular pub delivery. The lorry is badged up as Amari Plastics plc whose website says...

"Amari Plastics is dedicated to the distribution of semi finished sheet, rod, tube and profiles to the industrial, sign & display, digital printing, fabrication and engineering markets throughout the UK"

The only dealings with the pub I could suggest is that he's stopped there for his lunch.

More likely a delivery to Abby Signs than the pub.

where do you expect the lorry driver to park.if you have businesses you ve got to have deliveries and if the goods are heavy then you can t expect the driver to lug it far.get real ,the woman is a fool and is totally in the wrong.

Despite all the comments on what, who , where and why, it isn't that long ago when I encountered a similar woman on a scooter.She rode down Micklegate pavement on the left side at about 6mph, weaving between pedestrians with no care whatsoever heading into the City. This rogue driver needs to be stopped cautioned and disciplined, but the two PCSO's chatting at the corner hadn't noticed her. I know because I asked them!

They do make me chuckle tho, I saw one the other week going round the Rawcliffe roundabout with an old dear sat on it people were staring in disbelief. Its an age thing old people driving cars is a danger they just dont give a toss.

Is this story really newsworthy? I mean, if she'd been riding a pushbike nobody would have batted an eyelid.

Mr Udigawa wrote:
Is this story really newsworthy? I mean, if she'd been riding a pushbike nobody would have batted an eyelid.

yes unfortunately most of the story's the press reports on have this question hovering over them its what people like to call another non-story its slightly better than the jimmy choo shoe epic saga tho.

End of the day, regardless of whether the truck is parked legally or not, any sensible person would not willingly drive into oncoming traffic on a one way road.

This person has clearly never driven a 'real' car before, as they would realise that doing this is not the best of ideas...

Is there even any kind of lessons involved before these people take ownership of their 8MPH monsters?

Often see mobility scooters parked up outside pubs and clubs for hours on end while their owners are having a few to drink. Not suggesting this is the case in the article above, but perhaps those operating mobility scooters should be governed by the same laws in terms of drinking and using a vehicle (whether they are on the road or the footpath). I have had someone run into the back of my leg in ASDA a few years back in one of these mobility scooters, and it certainly hurt a bit.

Well with the demographics the way they are, those things are going to become more and more common. And bigger and faster no doubt.

Poor old sole probably thought she was still in one of those safe 20 mph zones where you won’t get hurt if you wander out into the road.

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
There's plenty of able bodied drivers who wind me up! Including the lorry driver in the picture whose parked on a double yellow line!

... that's all allowed in York, it's free parking on yellow lines, and mobility scooters have right of way on all thoroughfares in all directions, you need to read the York version of the Highway Code. No tickets have been issued in 20 years at Leeman Road sorting office to vehicles parked outside on the yellow lines collecting mail. You could park there all day if you were catching a train as there's that nice new entrance down the side of the sorting office for the posh folks in Westgate apartments so they can avoid the great unwashed using the main entrance.

you can ride a bicycle and drive one of those machines and you dont even have to know what a roundabout is or even what any road sign means just buy or borrow one jump on it and of you go legaly

The lorry driver has not broken any law unless he's outside the loading times, as has been pointed out loading / unloading is permitted on double yellows - so Garrowby get your facts right before spouting off incorrect garbage.

Back to the scooters - these are a pain in the posterior, many of the folk you see driving them are all fatties or lazy beggars that cant be bothered to walk. I had to call Humberside police two weeks back about an old chap driving one down the A63 out of Hull, he was there trundleing along at a merry 6 ish MPH, I saw in front of me a few cars swerve out of the way as they hadnt seen him or didnt realise he was travelling so slow, I kept my distance behind him with my hazards going till the police got there and carted him and his scooter off......silly old fool !

These joy riding scooter maniacs are not stupid, it's one of just a few things they can do to throw their bitter old weight around.

The lady in the picture does this frequently - even when the path is clear. She is a menace on that scooter.

muckybutt wrote:
The lorry driver has not broken any law unless he's outside the loading times, as has been pointed out loading / unloading is permitted on double yellows - so Garrowby get your facts right before spouting off incorrect garbage.

Back to the scooters - these are a pain in the posterior, many of the folk you see driving them are all fatties or lazy beggars that cant be bothered to walk. I had to call Humberside police two weeks back about an old chap driving one down the A63 out of Hull, he was there trundleing along at a merry 6 ish MPH, I saw in front of me a few cars swerve out of the way as they hadnt seen him or didnt realise he was travelling so slow, I kept my distance behind him with my hazards going till the police got there and carted him and his scooter off......silly old fool !

there was this large guy in one in tesco up clifton moor,driving it around the store clipping peoples ankles , been very annoying , and i actually witnessed him get out of it open up the tailgate on his 4x4 and then pick it up and put it in the back, clearly not disabled!

and still happening now if anyone from the benefits crew is reading, a guy goes to the cornerhouse pub on his and then STANDS at the bar for hours on end drinking pints and then drives it home **** as a tw@

muckybutt wrote:
The lorry driver has not broken any law unless he's outside the loading times, as has been pointed out loading / unloading is permitted on double yellows - so Garrowby get your facts right before spouting off incorrect garbage.

Back to the scooters - these are a pain in the posterior, many of the folk you see driving them are all fatties or lazy beggars that cant be bothered to walk. I had to call Humberside police two weeks back about an old chap driving one down the A63 out of Hull, he was there trundleing along at a merry 6 ish MPH, I saw in front of me a few cars swerve out of the way as they hadnt seen him or didnt realise he was travelling so slow, I kept my distance behind him with my hazards going till the police got there and carted him and his scooter off......silly old fool !

I didn't write he'd "broken the law", I said he'd wound me up. Get your facts right before you start with the vitriol.

m dee wrote:
Agree with Garrowby. Lorry is illegally parked on yellow lines,on road junction,if you look at the head/shoulder height of person on scooter there is a obstruction at rear of lorry.

Yup, its called a car! :-P

Ah, the usual ill-informed opinions on disability coming out again, whilst I wouldn't deny that there are probably some lazy berks riding around on them I'm pretty sure that you don't actually have to be registered disabled to buy one of those scooters, so please don't assume everyone riding one counts as being disabled.
Also some people unfortunately are overweight as a result of their disability, not vice-versa.

heworth.28 wrote:
Ah, the usual ill-informed opinions on disability coming out again, whilst I wouldn't deny that there are probably some lazy berks riding around on them I'm pretty sure that you don't actually have to be registered disabled to buy one of those scooters, so please don't assume everyone riding one counts as being disabled.
Also some people unfortunately are overweight as a result of their disability, not vice-versa.

But sometimes it is vice-versa.

oi oi savaloy wrote:

muckybutt wrote:
The lorry driver has not broken any law unless he's outside the loading times, as has been pointed out loading / unloading is permitted on double yellows - so Garrowby get your facts right before spouting off incorrect garbage.

Back to the scooters - these are a pain in the posterior, many of the folk you see driving them are all fatties or lazy beggars that cant be bothered to walk. I had to call Humberside police two weeks back about an old chap driving one down the A63 out of Hull, he was there trundleing along at a merry 6 ish MPH, I saw in front of me a few cars swerve out of the way as they hadnt seen him or didnt realise he was travelling so slow, I kept my distance behind him with my hazards going till the police got there and carted him and his scooter off......silly old fool !

there was this large guy in one in tesco up clifton moor,driving it around the store clipping peoples ankles , been very annoying , and i actually witnessed him get out of it open up the tailgate on his 4x4 and then pick it up and put it in the back, clearly not disabled!

and still happening now if anyone from the benefits crew is reading, a guy goes to the cornerhouse pub on his and then STANDS at the bar for hours on end drinking pints and then drives it home **** as a tw@

Yes I saw that man at Tesco's as well. He lives in Easingwold and is a retired Tory council member. I will report him and you can ring the DWP about your curtain twitcher in the Corner House.

You can't beat a bit of envy and spite in the community.

Re "she couldn't drive on the pavement because of the sidesheets hanging down" what was wrong with the pavement on the other side of the road?

Hoofarted wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

muckybutt wrote: The lorry driver has not broken any law unless he's outside the loading times, as has been pointed out loading / unloading is permitted on double yellows - so Garrowby get your facts right before spouting off incorrect garbage. Back to the scooters - these are a pain in the posterior, many of the folk you see driving them are all fatties or lazy beggars that cant be bothered to walk. I had to call Humberside police two weeks back about an old chap driving one down the A63 out of Hull, he was there trundleing along at a merry 6 ish MPH, I saw in front of me a few cars swerve out of the way as they hadnt seen him or didnt realise he was travelling so slow, I kept my distance behind him with my hazards going till the police got there and carted him and his scooter off......silly old fool !

there was this large guy in one in tesco up clifton moor,driving it around the store clipping peoples ankles , been very annoying , and i actually witnessed him get out of it open up the tailgate on his 4x4 and then pick it up and put it in the back, clearly not disabled! and still happening now if anyone from the benefits crew is reading, a guy goes to the cornerhouse pub on his and then STANDS at the bar for hours on end drinking pints and then drives it home **** as a tw@

Yes I saw that man at Tesco's as well. He lives in Easingwold and is a retired Tory council member. I will report him and you can ring the DWP about your curtain twitcher in the Corner House. You can't beat a bit of envy and spite in the community.

Hmm you must have him mixed up... Both these guys had "vote labour and keep me in a life of luxury on benefits" stickers on the back of their scooters!

And what's to be envious about some idle fekker screwing the system pretending to be disabled??

Pathetic response hoofarted....

PinzaC55 wrote:
Re "she couldn't drive on the pavement because of the sidesheets hanging down" what was wrong with the pavement on the other side of the road?

There is no dropped kerb on the entire length of road at the other side right around to Prices lane,you would be very surprised how difficult it is for disabled people to get around York .