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Latest on the Tour de France as it details Yorkshire Grand Depart

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Stage one, July 5: Leeds - Harewood - Otley - Ilkley - Skipton - Kettlewell - Aysgarth - Hawes - Reeth - Leyburn - Ripon - Harrogate

  • Stage two, July 6: York - Knaresborough - Silsden - Keighley - Haworth - Hebden Bridge - Elland - Huddersfield - Holmfirth - Sheffield
  • Stage three, July 7: Cambridge - Epping Forest - the Olympic Park - the Mall

  • Comments


    timcore 10:41am Thu 17 Jan 13

    Fantastic that we'll have so many drug users coming into the region.

    Score: 0
    moose 10:50am Thu 17 Jan 13

    Ah, so the whining miseries begin to post.

    This is brilliant for York - how it can be seen as anything else is utterly beyond me. An international sporting event on our doorstep, prestige, money, tourists, global TV coverage...

    Nevertheless, the commenters here will go out of their way to find as many negatives as possible.

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    Trespar Zagenstuz 11:28am Thu 17 Jan 13

    'Pedaling Paul'..... this is going to be your greatest moment.

    London can stuff its olympics up its proverbial velodrome. The Tour de France is not seen as a political tool, such as the Coe-limpics was used in Britain.
    In France 'Le Tour' really is an egalitarian sport-fest, and I trust this concept will not be hijacked by commerce and capitalism.
    Thus I for one an rather pleased that 'Le Tour' is starting off in York; and motorists might have to suffer the arduous possibility of York being a traffic-free zone for the day.

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    amike 11:34am Thu 17 Jan 13

    Surely the areas where the race finishes will get far more TV coverage, especially on the highlights programs, than where the race starts. So good for Harrogate and Sheffield. How much benefit to York......I wonder

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    roskoboskovic 1:09pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    anyone would think that we d invented the tdf.most people have ignored it for over a century but now all the fairweather bradley wiggins are jumping on the bandwagon.the tdf has as much in common with pedantic prat and his push iron as the premier league has to my back garden kickabout.

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    lowbeam 2:05pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Tour de France, literally "tour of France" not Tour de Yorkshire..
    We have enough problems in York without this..

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    /kev/null 2:19pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Looks like the route goes past my house. Apologies if I don't whine and complain about it like the archetypal miserable Yorkshire git.

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    atorycouncil2014 2:22pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense.

    These banners don't hold themselves up .....

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    MouseHouse 2:40pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Not the most obvious route to have chosen, but that's nit picking. This is the biggest sporting event ever to come to York. This is far bigger than Ascot at Yrk a few years back. Get the planning right and this has the potential to be gob-smackingly enormous. The olympic torch...pish and tish in comparison.

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    peterstreet 2:41pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    atorycouncil2014 wrote…


    I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense.

    These banners don't hold themselves up .....

    I was wondering where all the whining buffoons were, I began to suspect that they were hiding because they might have to give Yorks very good Labour council and CYC,s very able officers some credit for the not insignificant part they played in bringing the tour to this region!! well done all,well done!! as to the buffoons, come on then give us all a good laugh to wind up a wonderfull day! mind, you must be a little worried, after all James Alexander and his Collegues seem to be developing a disconcerting habit of getting things done, despite the best efforts of a very poor coalition government!

    Score: 0
    TheTruthHurts 3:26pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 3:30pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    atorycouncil2014 wrote:
    "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~
    ~~~~~

    "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity."
    Robert A. Heinlein.

    Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity.
    Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah....
    ".

    I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....

    Score: 0
    moose 3:38pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?

    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it.

    Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics?

    That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel.

    This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved

    Score: 0
    Big Bad Wolf 3:51pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    moose wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?
    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it.

    Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics?

    That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel.

    This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved

    Good news, but not for all.....

    I am a working man who's employer will not care if the tour is in town or not and will expect me to be at work on time regardless .
    I know this will bring visitors to the city, and I welcome it, but it will make traveling around quite difficult for those not involved.... Not a whinge but just explaining my view.

    Score: 0
    TheTruthHurts 3:59pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    moose wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?
    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it.

    Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics?

    That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel.

    This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved

    What other regions were we bidding against?

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    Trespar Zagenstuz 4:22pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    TheTruthHurts says:
    (3:59pm)
    "What other regions were we bidding against?"

    Feasibly the Auvergne, the Loire Valley, the Alpes Maritime.....etc, etc.

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    Woody G Mellor 4:46pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Where can I see a map of the route/streets it will take through York?

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    Trespar Zagenstuz 5:02pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Woody G Mellor wrote…


    Where can I see a map of the route/streets it will take through York?

    Sadly I doubt if the route will involve the snickleways and Shambles, although it would be fun if it did.....

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    far2bizzy 5:22pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    amike wrote…


    Surely the areas where the race finishes will get far more TV coverage, especially on the highlights programs, than where the race starts. So good for Harrogate and Sheffield. How much benefit to York......I wonder

    Totally agree – York may benefit from the business the race brings - but as a marketing opportunity to sell York on the telly, this is a disappointment.

    No-one bothers to watch the start.

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    atorycouncil2014 5:29pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    peterstreet wrote…


    atorycouncil2014 wrote…

    I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense. These banners don't hold themselves up .....
    I was wondering where all the whining buffoons were, I began to suspect that they were hiding because they might have to give Yorks very good Labour council and CYC,s very able officers some credit for the not insignificant part they played in bringing the tour to this region!! well done all,well done!! as to the buffoons, come on then give us all a good laugh to wind up a wonderfull day! mind, you must be a little worried, after all James Alexander and his Collegues seem to be developing a disconcerting habit of getting things done, despite the best efforts of a very poor coalition government!

    Yes this is a success for Visit York as Leeds City Council I do agree.

    What exactly have you and your Labour cronies achieved? Closure of Beckfield Lane Closure of Burnholme School. Failed attempt to sell Union Terrace. Turning Illuminating York into a national joke. Shambolic Fireworks display. Roads crumbling. No salt insult bins. Rubbish piling up on the streets. Failure to notice new are home in Fulford won't fit on the flood plain they want it to. Ward Committees destroyed.

    They have however toured the country and Europe in search of the lesser spotted photo op

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    atorycouncil2014 5:31pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    By visit York I mean Welcome to Yirkshire. Now Gary Verity is a man who gets things done

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    FortyFour 5:39pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    moose wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?
    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it.

    Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics?

    That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel.

    This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved
    What other regions were we bidding against?

    We were bidding against Luxembourg and Florence/Tuscany.

    Score: 0
    FortyFour 5:45pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Woody G Mellor wrote…


    Where can I see a map of the route/streets it will take through York?

    Based on the map on the Tour de France webesite (http://www.letour.f
    r/le-tour/2013/us/gr
    and-depart-2014.html ), it looks like:

    Knavesmire Drive, Blossom St, Nunnery Lane, Skeldergate Bridge, Clifford St, Coney, possibly Blake St, Bootham, Water End, Boroughbridge Road, A59.

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    Trespar Zagenstuz 5:46pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    atorycouncil2014 says..:
    "What exactly have you and your Labour cronies achieved? Closure of Beckfield Lane Closure of Burnholme School. Failed attempt to sell Union Terrace. Turning Illuminating York into a national joke. Shambolic Fireworks display. Roads crumbling. No salt insult bins. Rubbish piling up on the streets. Failure to notice new are home in Fulford won't fit on the flood plain they want it to. Ward Committees destroyed.

    They have however toured the country and Europe in search of the lesser spotted photo op"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~
    ~~~~~
    There is no site guaranteed to bring mirth to this column than a tory having a little hysteric fit of apoplexy.

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    Buzz Light-year 5:53pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    atorycouncil2014 wrote…


    By visit York I mean Welcome to Yirkshire. Now Gary Verity is a man who gets things done

    Indeed. Word is he's the man who deserves the credit.

    Score: -2
    TheTruthHurts 5:59pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    FortyFour wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…

    moose wrote…

    TheTruthHurts wrote…

    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this? ' Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?
    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it. Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics? That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel. This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved
    What other regions were we bidding against?
    We were bidding against Luxembourg and Florence/Tuscany.

    I was under the impression that it was confirmed that it was coming to Yorkshire a week or so ago?

    Score: 0
    Woody G Mellor 6:15pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    FortyFour wrote…


    Woody G Mellor wrote…


    Where can I see a map of the route/streets it will take through York?
    Based on the map on the Tour de France webesite (http://www.letour.f

    r/le-tour/2013/us/gr

    and-depart-2014.html ), it looks like:

    Knavesmire Drive, Blossom St, Nunnery Lane, Skeldergate Bridge, Clifford St, Coney, possibly Blake St, Bootham, Water End, Boroughbridge Road, A59.

    Thanks!

    Score: 0
    nearlyman 6:51pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Well I rather hope they get the roads in a fit state for this event. Am I alone in thinking that they have never been in such a shocking state as they are at present. It would be truly embarrassing for York were the competitors to come a cropper in some of our historic pot holes.

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    twotonethomas 8:59pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    atorycouncil2014 wrote…


    By visit York I mean Welcome to Yirkshire. Now Gary Verity is a man who gets things done

    At £200k plus a year I should hope he is.

    I also notice that the tour is going through his home town. Now that's cronyism for you that even Labour councillors couldn't match.

    Score: 0
    Back and Beyond 9:17pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    FortyFour wrote…


    Woody G Mellor wrote…


    Where can I see a map of the route/streets it will take through York?
    Based on the map on the Tour de France webesite (http://www.letour.f

    r/le-tour/2013/us/gr

    and-depart-2014.html ), it looks like:

    Knavesmire Drive, Blossom St, Nunnery Lane, Skeldergate Bridge, Clifford St, Coney, possibly Blake St, Bootham, Water End, Boroughbridge Road, A59.

    Not sure they are going past Water End? from the map it looks like they are going to use the quicker Westminster Road route..

    Score: 0
    yorkshirelad 9:38pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Just brilliant news...those who think it won't market York and Yorkshire have clearly never seen the TdF on TV. Massive worldwide exposure and actually the TV coverage does make quite a lot of the areas the tour passes through.

    Tourism is a massive part of our economy in York and this sort of publicity is priceless.

    Have a little look at the Tour on TV this July to see what a massive show it is and what we are in for in 2014.

    Score: 0
    gjh 10:09pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    FortyFour wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    moose wrote…


    TheTruthHurts wrote…


    Why is it necessary for James Alexander And Kersten England to be in Paris for this?
    '
    Also why is James Alexander looking like a tramp?
    Because we bid for it against two other regions. If we hadn't sent anyone, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have got it.

    Did you also whinge when Cameron and Beckham went to Singapore to secure the Olympics?

    That's just how this stuff works - you speculate with some expenditure, and if you speculate well, you get a return far in excess of sending a few elected officials across the channel.

    This is a GOOD news story - well done to everyone involved
    What other regions were we bidding against?
    We were bidding against Luxembourg and Florence/Tuscany.

    We were bidding against Edinburgh, Florence, Barcelona, Berlin and Venice. Yorkshire won it despite not being favoured by our own government. This is great news for our part of the world. It will be a massive benefit and, yes, York will get a lot of TV coverage as the event is transmitted live around the world. Let's show the world what a great place this is to live and what a great, friendly bunch of people we are. Vive le Tour or should that be Vive T' Tour

    Score: 0
    henleazeyorkie 10:35pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Make no mistake, this is a seriously good thing for the people of York - if you want it to be.

    It won't suit everyone for different reasons, nothing ever has done or ever will, but having had the good fortune to experience Le Tour in Kent a few years back, it will be a great week or two leading up to it and day itself for those who want to embrace it.

    Of course, if you're not bothered - simply don't bother. You'll be pleased to know it won't happen again.......

    Score: 0
    Paul Hepworth 10:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Oh dearie me...there really are some sceptics out there. I'm highly delighted by the news of the route. York..a premier cycling city and Harrogate where the national cyclists organisation CTC was founded in 1878 as the Bicycle Touring Club.
    As Chair of the York Cycle Show Committee, I'm looking forward to us helping to publicise the TdF.
    A shameless plug below for our 2013 Show. June 22nd & 23rd on the Knavesmire.
    www.yorkcycleshow.co
    .uk

    Score: 0
    notmyrealname 10:51pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Good news - Lets hope the Council dont mess up - far better to host this than drunken race meetings and stupid bankrupt big wheels. Lets welcome the cyclists and make it worthwhile

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    Scarlet Pimpernel 10:51pm Thu 17 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    atorycouncil2014 wrote:
    "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~

    ~~~~~

    "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity."
    Robert A. Heinlein.

    Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity.
    Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah....

    ".

    I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....

    It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money.

    Could someone tell me who exactly benefits ?

    What parts of the economy make all this extra money ?

    Is it just tourism, eg hotels ?

    Score: 0
    peterstreet 6:52am Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    atorycouncil2014 wrote:
    "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~


    ~~~~~

    "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity."
    Robert A. Heinlein.

    Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity.
    Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah....


    ".

    I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....
    It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money.

    Could someone tell me who exactly benefits ?

    What parts of the economy make all this extra money ?

    Is it just tourism, eg hotels ?

    do your own research whining buffoon!

    Score: 0
    NoNewsIsGoodNews 7:43am Fri 18 Jan 13

    I am genuinely excited about the tour coming to York, I will be on the streets watching with the thousands of others.

    But for all the people on here saying that this will bring recognition and money to York. How many of you have been to any of the other towns and cities that have hosted this event, solely because you watched the tour and thought
    "that looks like a nice place to visit?"

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 9:54am Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel says:
    (10:51pm Thu 17 Jan) "It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money......
    What parts of the economy make all this extra money"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~
    ~~~~~~~
    Your first statement conflates two separate elements, S.Pimpernel.
    If it was not secured by politicians, local politicians that is, who was it secured by? An army of traffic wardens? A consortium of York's Cycle-shops? Students?
    And I trust it was secured by 'council money', unlike the Coe-limpics, which was secured by fat paybacks from fat company directors who where sponsoring the event. I shall be most disappointed to find the same happening with regard to 'The Tour'.
    Who will benefit? Perhaps the shops in York might benefit a little, and don't they just need a small injection of money, thanks to the economic mismanagement by our 'wrecking-ball' Chancellor....
    York tourism might benefit, Barnitts and Boyes might benefit, the streets and roads might benefit, and you, S. Pimpernel, might even feel the benefit.

    Score: 0
    Scarlet Pimpernel 1:22pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    peterstreet wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…

    atorycouncil2014 wrote: "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~ ~~~~~ "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity." Robert A. Heinlein. Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity. Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah.... ". I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....
    It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money. Could someone tell me who exactly benefits ? What parts of the economy make all this extra money ? Is it just tourism, eg hotels ?
    do your own research whining buffoon!

    No, I will not.

    It is the job of those who make these claims to explain and substantiate who will benefit. .

    Millions of tax-payers money has been paid out by councils to attract this event, and they should provide details of where the millions they predict will come into the economy will end up ?

    If it is the tourism industry, then why can't this industry pay the cost of attracting it, instead of using tax-payers money which could be better spent on more needy areas ?

    Score: 0
    Scarlet Pimpernel 1:32pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says: (10:51pm Thu 17 Jan) "It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money...... What parts of the economy make all this extra money" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~ ~~~~~~~ Your first statement conflates two separate elements, S.Pimpernel. If it was not secured by politicians, local politicians that is, who was it secured by? An army of traffic wardens? A consortium of York's Cycle-shops? Students? And I trust it was secured by 'council money', unlike the Coe-limpics, which was secured by fat paybacks from fat company directors who where sponsoring the event. I shall be most disappointed to find the same happening with regard to 'The Tour'. Who will benefit? Perhaps the shops in York might benefit a little, and don't they just need a small injection of money, thanks to the economic mismanagement by our 'wrecking-ball' Chancellor.... York tourism might benefit, Barnitts and Boyes might benefit, the streets and roads might benefit, and you, S. Pimpernel, might even feel the benefit.

    Gary Verity of Visit Yorkshire secured it, with support from Councils, not politicians. Councils provided the funding.

    I don't want to know who 'might' benefit. I want to know who WILL benefit. The streets and roads will be paid for by who exactly ?

    This is the problem with Labour stooges, they haven't got a clue about the economics, like those they support, they bluster and use oblique explanations and truly are 'something for nothing' merchants who waste money on vanity projects.

    Score: 0
    Scarlet Pimpernel 1:56pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am.

    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?

    Score: 0
    peterstreet 2:34pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    peterstreet wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…

    atorycouncil2014 wrote: "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~ ~~~~~ "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity." Robert A. Heinlein. Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity. Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah.... ". I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....
    It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money. Could someone tell me who exactly benefits ? What parts of the economy make all this extra money ? Is it just tourism, eg hotels ?
    do your own research whining buffoon!
    No, I will not.

    It is the job of those who make these claims to explain and substantiate who will benefit. .

    Millions of tax-payers money has been paid out by councils to attract this event, and they should provide details of where the millions they predict will come into the economy will end up ?

    If it is the tourism industry, then why can't this industry pay the cost of attracting it, instead of using tax-payers money which could be better spent on more needy areas ?

    Am I the only poster who thinks that "red pimp" is a whining buffoon, still I.m glad he has tory council for a partner. Together they make a wonderfull half- wit! well allmost !!

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 3:03pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    "....they haven't got a clue about the economics"....
    ...unlike the tory Uberstooge, towel-folder in chief, and Chancer (sic) of the Exchequer, eh,..... S.Pimpernel?

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 3:08pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    "If it is the tourism industry, then why can't this industry pay the cost of attracting it, instead of using tax-payers money which could be better spent on more needy areas"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~
    ~~~~
    Mr (?) Pimpernel, I trust you were seriously lobbying Boris Johnson about spending 14 billion pounds of tax-payers' money on the coe-limpic farrago?
    Or was that OK, given it was money being spent by the Toffs for their sports day?

    Score: 0
    Scarlet Pimpernel 3:22pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    "If it is the tourism industry, then why can't this industry pay the cost of attracting it, instead of using tax-payers money which could be better spent on more needy areas" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~ ~~~~ Mr (?) Pimpernel, I trust you were seriously lobbying Boris Johnson about spending 14 billion pounds of tax-payers' money on the coe-limpic farrago? Or was that OK, given it was money being spent by the Toffs for their sports day?

    Is that the Olympics that Tessa Jowel was awarded her Dame'hood for ? Is she a Tory then ? Wasn't the bid for the 2012 Olympics made under Labour ?

    Don't let the facts get in the way of your selective memory and Labour propaganda.

    Score: 0
    Scarlet Pimpernel 3:25pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    peterstreet wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…

    peterstreet wrote…

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…

    atorycouncil2014 wrote: "I see Calamity James has seize on another opportunity for free international travel at the taxpayers expense." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~ ~~~~~ "Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity." Robert A. Heinlein. Oh, how miffed are the tories for not securing this opportunity. Had they been on the Eurostar, they'd be praising this as a "worthy fact-finding mission that will secure much..blah..blah.... ". I suppose they cannot now eat humble pie as it would not be claimable on expenses....
    It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money. Could someone tell me who exactly benefits ? What parts of the economy make all this extra money ? Is it just tourism, eg hotels ?
    do your own research whining buffoon!
    No, I will not. It is the job of those who make these claims to explain and substantiate who will benefit. . Millions of tax-payers money has been paid out by councils to attract this event, and they should provide details of where the millions they predict will come into the economy will end up ? If it is the tourism industry, then why can't this industry pay the cost of attracting it, instead of using tax-payers money which could be better spent on more needy areas ?
    Am I the only poster who thinks that "red pimp" is a whining buffoon, still I.m glad he has tory council for a partner. Together they make a wonderfull half- wit! well allmost !!

    You are the only ignorant, Labour troll, poster whipping up bile and vitriol, that's for sure !

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 5:34pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel says...
    (1:56pm Fri 18 Jan)
    "How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am."
    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~
    ~~~~~~
    I believe they also forgot to tell you what they had for lunch.
    Perhaps you would have preferred them to be transported by helicopter, so as they could get there, have a day's conferences, and return within hours of setting out. However, I suspect they took the train. It's considerably cheaper.
    But full marks for your enthusiastic detective-work.

    Score: 0
    nearlyman 7:19pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    "....they haven't got a clue about the economics"....
    ...unlike the tory Uberstooge, towel-folder in chief, and Chancer (sic) of the Exchequer, eh,..... S.Pimpernel?

    And what of Ed balls up ! Even the Labour party are embarrassed about him.

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    Arblaster 10:42pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says: (10:51pm Thu 17 Jan) "It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money...... What parts of the economy make all this extra money" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~ ~~~~~~~ Your first statement conflates two separate elements, S.Pimpernel. If it was not secured by politicians, local politicians that is, who was it secured by? An army of traffic wardens? A consortium of York's Cycle-shops? Students? And I trust it was secured by 'council money', unlike the Coe-limpics, which was secured by fat paybacks from fat company directors who where sponsoring the event. I shall be most disappointed to find the same happening with regard to 'The Tour'. Who will benefit? Perhaps the shops in York might benefit a little, and don't they just need a small injection of money, thanks to the economic mismanagement by our 'wrecking-ball' Chancellor.... York tourism might benefit, Barnitts and Boyes might benefit, the streets and roads might benefit, and you, S. Pimpernel, might even feel the benefit.
    Gary Verity of Visit Yorkshire secured it, with support from Councils, not politicians. Councils provided the funding.

    I don't want to know who 'might' benefit. I want to know who WILL benefit. The streets and roads will be paid for by who exactly ?

    This is the problem with Labour stooges, they haven't got a clue about the economics, like those they support, they bluster and use oblique explanations and truly are 'something for nothing' merchants who waste money on vanity projects.

    since you like slagging of the labour maybe you can telll us who benefits, as you say somebody WILL benefit. or havnt you got a clue abour economics either? cyclists might benefit, so thats good enough for me!!!!

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    Scarlet Pimpernel 10:44pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says...
    (1:56pm Fri 18 Jan)
    "How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am."
    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~

    ~~~~~~
    I believe they also forgot to tell you what they had for lunch.
    Perhaps you would have preferred them to be transported by helicopter, so as they could get there, have a day's conferences, and return within hours of setting out. However, I suspect they took the train. It's considerably cheaper.
    But full marks for your enthusiastic detective-work.

    Well they jetted back in the afternoon to attend the big shindig in Leeds, so no expense spared. It's just one long tax-payer funded party for these two, with plenty of photo opportunities thrown in between tweets !

    Why did they have to be in Paris in the morning, when there was the media event, dinner and fireworks in Leeds in the evening ?

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    Arblaster 10:54pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says...
    (1:56pm Fri 18 Jan)
    "How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am."
    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~


    ~~~~~~
    I believe they also forgot to tell you what they had for lunch.
    Perhaps you would have preferred them to be transported by helicopter, so as they could get there, have a day's conferences, and return within hours of setting out. However, I suspect they took the train. It's considerably cheaper.
    But full marks for your enthusiastic detective-work.
    Well they jetted back in the afternoon to attend the big shindig in Leeds, so no expense spared. It's just one long tax-payer funded party for these two, with plenty of photo opportunities thrown in between tweets !

    Why did they have to be in Paris in the morning, when there was the media event, dinner and fireworks in Leeds in the evening ?

    why are you asking people here these sily questions.? nobody here would know the answers. maybe they had to be in paris because thats when the meeting was. it might not have been their choice in the matter. then they had to get back to leeds. politicians go back and forth. david cameron flies back and forth to europe, why dont you ask him why he does.?

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    Scarlet Pimpernel 10:56pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Arblaster wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says: (10:51pm Thu 17 Jan) "It wasn't secured by politicians, but was secured using council money...... What parts of the economy make all this extra money" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~ ~~~~~~~ Your first statement conflates two separate elements, S.Pimpernel. If it was not secured by politicians, local politicians that is, who was it secured by? An army of traffic wardens? A consortium of York's Cycle-shops? Students? And I trust it was secured by 'council money', unlike the Coe-limpics, which was secured by fat paybacks from fat company directors who where sponsoring the event. I shall be most disappointed to find the same happening with regard to 'The Tour'. Who will benefit? Perhaps the shops in York might benefit a little, and don't they just need a small injection of money, thanks to the economic mismanagement by our 'wrecking-ball' Chancellor.... York tourism might benefit, Barnitts and Boyes might benefit, the streets and roads might benefit, and you, S. Pimpernel, might even feel the benefit.
    Gary Verity of Visit Yorkshire secured it, with support from Councils, not politicians. Councils provided the funding.

    I don't want to know who 'might' benefit. I want to know who WILL benefit. The streets and roads will be paid for by who exactly ?

    This is the problem with Labour stooges, they haven't got a clue about the economics, like those they support, they bluster and use oblique explanations and truly are 'something for nothing' merchants who waste money on vanity projects.
    since you like slagging of the labour maybe you can telll us who benefits, as you say somebody WILL benefit. or havnt you got a clue abour economics either? cyclists might benefit, so thats good enough for me!!!!

    Which cyclists 'might' benefit, and how ?

    Tourism will get some free marketing, and a boost for a few days. I doubt that there will be much of a legacy though. It's not like there will be any buildings/regenerati
    on left behind like the olympics - remember them - they took place last year ? !!!

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    Scarlet Pimpernel 11:06pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Arblaster wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says...
    (1:56pm Fri 18 Jan)
    "How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am."
    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~



    ~~~~~~
    I believe they also forgot to tell you what they had for lunch.
    Perhaps you would have preferred them to be transported by helicopter, so as they could get there, have a day's conferences, and return within hours of setting out. However, I suspect they took the train. It's considerably cheaper.
    But full marks for your enthusiastic detective-work.
    Well they jetted back in the afternoon to attend the big shindig in Leeds, so no expense spared. It's just one long tax-payer funded party for these two, with plenty of photo opportunities thrown in between tweets !

    Why did they have to be in Paris in the morning, when there was the media event, dinner and fireworks in Leeds in the evening ?
    why are you asking people here these sily questions.? nobody here would know the answers. maybe they had to be in paris because thats when the meeting was. it might not have been their choice in the matter. then they had to get back to leeds. politicians go back and forth. david cameron flies back and forth to europe, why dont you ask him why he does.?

    Oh, you don't think so ?

    I think you will find that there are plenty of #teamyork following this thread, reporting back to the international jetsetting council leadership.

    It's good to know that York Council have PR experts like you, fending off difficult questions. Alastair Campbell will be asking you for tips next.

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    Trespar Zagenstuz 11:30pm Fri 18 Jan 13

    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Arblaster wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel wrote…


    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    Scarlet Pimpernel says...
    (1:56pm Fri 18 Jan)
    "How come the photo of Coun Alexander and Kersten England was taken at night ? It was posted at 10.42am, and tweeted by James Alexander at 11.20am."
    Maybe they didn't want us to know that they were there the day before too ?"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#~~~~~




    ~~~~~~
    I believe they also forgot to tell you what they had for lunch.
    Perhaps you would have preferred them to be transported by helicopter, so as they could get there, have a day's conferences, and return within hours of setting out. However, I suspect they took the train. It's considerably cheaper.
    But full marks for your enthusiastic detective-work.
    Well they jetted back in the afternoon to attend the big shindig in Leeds, so no expense spared. It's just one long tax-payer funded party for these two, with plenty of photo opportunities thrown in between tweets !

    Why did they have to be in Paris in the morning, when there was the media event, dinner and fireworks in Leeds in the evening ?
    why are you asking people here these sily questions.? nobody here would know the answers. maybe they had to be in paris because thats when the meeting was. it might not have been their choice in the matter. then they had to get back to leeds. politicians go back and forth. david cameron flies back and forth to europe, why dont you ask him why he does.?
    Oh, you don't think so ?

    I think you will find that there are plenty of #teamyork following this thread, reporting back to the international jetsetting council leadership.

    It's good to know that York Council have PR experts like you, fending off difficult questions. Alastair Campbell will be asking you for tips next.

    SP, I don't think "Arblaster" is a PR expert ,for the simple reason that he appears unable to string a proper sentence together.
    However, I'm impressed that #teamyork will, or might perchance be following this thread.
    But seriously, then, why do you not ask /them/ all your questions? I'm beginning to think these questions of yours are a little bit rhetorical....
    You also make mention of 'the buildings and regeneration left by the Olympics last year'. I do remember them , (how could one forget, given they were rammed down one's throat morning, noon and night), I am not really sure I follow your comparison here, because I doubt if York City Council are planning to build a velodrome or a new pointless shopping-centre on the edge of The Knavesmire, on the strength of one weekend's cycling event. But they might have to repair some pot-holes in the roads,and I suspect you and I could both feasibly benefit from that. So I don't think you need fear too much being spent on 'infrastructure', unless you feel we ought to have the army manning gun-positions on the towers of York Minster.

    After your rather odd question, "Oh, you don't think so?". I'm afraid I am still puzzling as to whom you are referring (presumably "Arblaster"), and what they do not think.
    But I'll not let it bother me too much.
    And so to bed. G'night!

    Score: 0
    Buzz Light-year 9:11am Sat 19 Jan 13

    [quote]Pimpernel wrote:
    It's good to know that York Council have PR experts like you, fending off difficult questions. Alastair Campbell will be asking you for tips next.[/quote]
    Hahaha! Listen to yourself! Get a grip of your imagination.

    And please stop turning every single story into a paranoid JA TSL DM KE hatefest and/or Pimpernel bickering stream.
    We know what you think of them.

    You starting to supercede Paul and ColdAsChristmas in the crazed zealot stakes.

    Score: -2
    Buzz Light-year 9:11am Sat 19 Jan 13

    [quote]Pimpernel wrote:
    It's good to know that York Council have PR experts like you, fending off difficult questions. Alastair Campbell will be asking you for tips next.[/quote]
    Hahaha! Listen to yourself! Get a grip of your imagination.

    And please stop turning every single story into a paranoid JA TSL DM KE hatefest and/or Pimpernel bickering stream.
    We know what you think of them.

    You starting to supercede Paul and ColdAsChristmas in the crazed zealot stakes.

    Score: -2
    Buzz Light-year 9:12am Sat 19 Jan 13

    Definitely only clicked it once.

    Score: -2
    Trespar Zagenstuz 11:39am Sat 19 Jan 13

    "The Pimpernel-bickering stream".....
    .........surely a line from a poem by Shelley........

    Score: 0
    Buzz Light-year 12:06pm Sat 19 Jan 13

    Or a global weather phenomenon?

    Score: -2
    Scarlet Pimpernel 6:12pm Sat 19 Jan 13

    Trespar Zagenstuz wrote…


    "The Pimpernel-bickering stream".....
    .........surely a line from a poem by Shelley........

    Being an angler, I prefer the 'babbling brook'.

    I bait my hook, cast my line, and the fish start biting..... every time !

    Seems that Buzz has been taken in by the political propaganda from JA, KE, TSL, and DM. Fortunately, many of us are not so easily deceived.

    Score: 0
    Trespar Zagenstuz 8:39pm Sat 19 Jan 13

    "Fortunately, many of us are not so easily deceived."
    I am most fortunate that I m not so easily deceived, Scarlet P. And I don't think "Buzz Light-year" is deceived, either. I cannot speak personally for him or indeed "Ablaster", who did at least put the point rather bluntly. But the approach to take is not to follow a party line, dare I say it...hook,line and sinker. I do not, as my comment on the 'other' cycling thread in this paper might allude.
    To be honest, I was generally not aware who 'James Alexander' actually was, or which political party he sided with. I don't think party politics has a place in local government; in fact i don't believe party politics has a place in Westminster. So I judge upon merits, and sadly for you the torys at High Office have no scruples whatsoever, and those in the regions tend to ape them if they can. Sad, but true.
    I think this thread draws to a close. Feel free to have the coveted 'last word'.

    But beware, that the mighty trout you think you have on the end of your line is not all it appears to be....the fish can outwit the fisherman at times.

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