Traffic signs removal work praised

WORK on removing “unnecessary” traffic signs in York has won Government praise.

In a letter to traffic bosses across the UK, Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin singled out York as an example of an area which was ahead of the field in cutting down on “sign clutter”.

He said City of York Council had audited every sign in its conservation areas with a view to removing them unless there was “a very clear need” through a pilot scheme which cost less than £1,000, adding that the work would pay for itself within four years due to lower maintenance and energy bills.

The Department for Transport has sent all traffic authorities guidance on reducing sign clutter, and Coun Dave Merrett, the council’s cabinet member for transport, planning and sustainability, said the praise reflected the “excellent work” on the Reinvigorate York city-centre facelift scheme.

Sir Ron Cooke who chairs Reinvigorate York, said: “The Government has finally recognised what York has been arguing for years – that traffic signs, especially in pedestrianised areas, blight the enjoyment and safety of heritage cities like York.

“The latest report recognises the success and value of York’s policy of removing unnecessary clutter, obsolete, temporary and misleading signs, unnecessary and unmaintained road markings and dangerous barriers and bollards.”

Comments(25)

roskoboskovic says...
9:51am Wed 9 Jan 13

now all they ve got to do is get rid of half of the traffic lights and we ll be laughing.

Saywhat says...
10:20am Wed 9 Jan 13

There are two 30mph signs towards the end of Scarcroft Road, leading to The Mount. (One on each side of the road).
These could be removed. Why remind people it's a 30mph zone, when approaching traffic lights!!

Oncebitten says...
10:28am Wed 9 Jan 13

roskoboskovic wrote:
now all they ve got to do is get rid of half of the traffic lights and we ll be laughing.
Agreed!

razor08 says...
10:30am Wed 9 Jan 13

Saywhat wrote:
There are two 30mph signs towards the end of Scarcroft Road, leading to The Mount. (One on each side of the road).
These could be removed. Why remind people it's a 30mph zone, when approaching traffic lights!!
The reason for these signs is that motorists exiting a 20 mph zone, which will never be enforced by police!

MrsHoney says...
10:42am Wed 9 Jan 13

I didn't even realise that WAS a 20mph zone - oops!!

I'm sure there are too many signs around but why is it when you actually need a sign there are none to be seen? For instance street signs in towns always seem to be thin on the ground or what about when you've been following signs and all of a sudden they just stop and you're like 'where do I go now?!'

pedalling paul says...
11:11am Wed 9 Jan 13

About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.

bob the builder says...
12:01pm Wed 9 Jan 13

pedalling paul wrote:
About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!

YorkShrimper says...
12:08pm Wed 9 Jan 13

pedalling paul wrote:
About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
I spotted this on the way to work this morning :

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YorkShrimper says...
12:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13

meh, looked like a roadsign before submitting :/

*crawls back under rock*

the original Homer says...
1:12pm Wed 9 Jan 13

bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!
Well said, and how about a few "no cycling" signs on the roads where cycle paths are available but cyclists prefer to still use the road?

sheps lad says...
1:17pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Removing? What about all the 20mph signs that have recently been added?

far2bizzy says...
1:28pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Why don’t they get rid of all direction signs? Everyone’s got a ‘satnav’ these days. (Or if they haven’t, they’ll soon get one !) :-)

Boadicea says...
1:57pm Wed 9 Jan 13

How about "No Cycling" on footpaths signs.

Torkie says...
3:11pm Wed 9 Jan 13

"don't squeeze down the side of cars then complain they're passing too close."
on lendal bridge.
It could flash "idiot" like those speed reminder signs.

Podlet says...
3:51pm Wed 9 Jan 13

They get put up, then taken down again, you ain't ever going to keep them up, they get....

Caecilius says...
5:02pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Boadicea wrote:
How about "No Cycling" on footpaths signs.
How about some sort of indication - I don't know, double-yellow lines painted prominently on the road, maybe - that would make it crystal clear to motorists where they're not supposed to dump their vehicle? Outside Londis and Sainsburys on Bootham, for example.

Paul Meoff says...
7:04pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Caecilius wrote:
Boadicea wrote:
How about "No Cycling" on footpaths signs.
How about some sort of indication - I don't know, double-yellow lines painted prominently on the road, maybe - that would make it crystal clear to motorists where they're not supposed to dump their vehicle? Outside Londis and Sainsburys on Bootham, for example.
Have some sympathy with the terminally idle. How else would they get their fags, booze, pasties and scratchcards.

Paul Meoff says...
7:11pm Wed 9 Jan 13

the original Homer wrote:
bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!
Well said, and how about a few "no cycling" signs on the roads where cycle paths are available but cyclists prefer to still use the road?
Cyclists have every right to use the road regardless of whether there are cycle lanes. Usually when this happens it's because the cycle lane is poorly designed. Scarcroft Road to the Mount Hotel is a good example. I always stay on the road in preference to battling with pedestrians, crossing Arbermarle Road and rejoining a stream of fast traffic.

It doesn't delay anyone as I keep up with the car in front until I decide it's safe to tuck into the left and the car behind passes.

Tug job says...
7:13pm Wed 9 Jan 13

bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!
But that's only because the Highway Code doesn't apply to cyclists!

Buzz Light-year says...
8:56pm Wed 9 Jan 13

the original Homer wrote:
bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!
Well said, and how about a few "no cycling" signs on the roads where cycle paths are available but cyclists prefer to still use the road?
How about some driving bans for idiots who have no idea about traffic law and the highway code.
You being the first.

Buzz Light-year says...
8:58pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Torkie wrote:
"don't squeeze down the side of cars then complain they're passing too close." on lendal bridge. It could flash "idiot" like those speed reminder signs.
How about "No Prejudice" signs for haters like you?

PKH says...
10:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Tug job wrote:
bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
About time we had some "Is your car journey really neccessary" signs on regularly congested approaches to the City.
... along with get off and push at pedestrian crossings, and stop when light is red at traffic lights. They'd be wasted though as no one would ever read them!
But that's only because the Highway Code doesn't apply to cyclists!
A lot of drivers don't think it applies to them either!!!!

jgycfc says...
11:49pm Wed 9 Jan 13

PP - do you think 2013 might be the year you get a new hobby? You failed dismally to even get a response about windfarms - it was beautiful.

I hear collecting brown paper might be a good start.

Seriously, as the UK get's more US like in liable / needing to have warnings on everything, how long until someone sues, and wins, against the bumbling mass that is CYC, for not realising that they had to , and now their is ruined, could the tax-payer please stump up the cost of fixing for their near-darwinism death experience?

Torkie says...
1:09am Thu 10 Jan 13

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Torkie wrote:
"don't squeeze down the side of cars then complain they're passing too close." on lendal bridge. It could flash "idiot" like those speed reminder signs.
How about "No Prejudice" signs for haters like you?
Drivers are regularly sniped at by people with no road sense. I'll hate all i want thank you.

Magicman! says...
3:16am Thu 10 Jan 13

^ - I take it you mean other drivers then! Like those who sit at roundabouts and wait for a space the length of an Intercity 125 before they'll start to pull forward, and then they brake suddenly because they can see a car half a mile away on the horizon that might be coming somewhere in the vague direction of the roundabout! And they then say the person who shunted them has no road sense, whilst also calling names at the cyclist who has just had to swerve around them as the car has moved to the left without any indication whatsoever.

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At the moment, for a tourist coming to York there's a few blots along the 'main straight' - a set of traffic lights giving a red light on the ONLY approach to Lendal Bridge from the lendal gyratory, and then another set of traffic lights right in full view of the Minster. There's another set like that in front of Monk Bar too.

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