Old railway buildings cleared in preparation for York Central redevelopment

Old railway buildings cleared in preparation for York Central redevelopment

The bulldozers prepare to move in

The former Jarvis/Fastline rail depot buildings before the bulldozers moved in

The former Jarvis/Fastline rail depot buildings before the bulldozers moved in

The pits inside the depot

The bulldozers move in to the flatten the site

The bulldozers move in to the flatten the site

First published in News

GOING, going, gone… Another piece of York’s railway heritage bites the dust .. and Press reader Nathan Reynolds was on hand to record it.

The buildings you can see being demolished in these photographs are the former Jarvis/Fastline rail depot buildings at Leeman Road that started their lives more than 100 years ago as the Phoenix Foundry of the York Engineering Company.

The Phoenix Foundry had moved from the Fishergate area in the mid-1870s to Leeman Road at about the same time as the Albion Foundry moved from Monk Bar.

In 1882, the two businesses combined to form the York Engineering Company, which provided a wide range of cast- and wrought-iron items for the North Eastern Railway Company, including columns, girders, station roofs and railway bridges.

Eventually, the works were sold to the North Eastern Railway and were converted into maintenance workshops. Most recently, they were used by the Jarvis/Fastline group, which went into administration in 2010. They have been empty since then.

A spokesman for Network Rail said they had been demolished to “to improve visual appearance of the York Central Site and clear buildings that are in a poor state of repair” in preparation for any development of York Central.

Most of the demolition work took place in November and earlier this month.

Mr Reynolds, whose father and his colleagues worked in and around the depot for more than 30 years, and who himself did work experience there as a schoolboy 15 years ago, had permission to photograph the demolition process.

Mr Reynolds, who works for Network Rail, admits the demolition of the buildings left him saddened.

“York’s industrial heritage from the last 100-plus years has all but gone. I know the railways aren’t as romantic as chocolate factories but work should be done to preserve such places, not only for the heritage York owes them but also they could still play a role in the ongoing upkeep of Britain’s railways”

• You can see more of Nathan’s photos of the depot being demolished at: flickr.com/photos/kopex/sets/72157631194207786/

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9:34am Thu 27 Dec 12

capt spaulding says...

In preparation for any development of York central !

Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.
In preparation for any development of York central ! Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it. capt spaulding
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10:10am Thu 27 Dec 12

again says...

The way Terry's former chocolate factory is going, they will need to demolish the whole lot soon.

Far from a re-development project it now looks like a vandalised ruin. Even the clock face has a hole smashed in it.
The way Terry's former chocolate factory is going, they will need to demolish the whole lot soon. Far from a re-development project it now looks like a vandalised ruin. Even the clock face has a hole smashed in it. again
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11:49am Thu 27 Dec 12

pedalling paul says...

capt spaulding wrote:
In preparation for any development of York central !

Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.
I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence?
More at http://www.york.gov.
uk/environment/Plann
ing/Major_developmen
ts/York_northwest/
[quote][p][bold]capt spaulding[/bold] wrote: In preparation for any development of York central ! Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence? More at http://www.york.gov. uk/environment/Plann ing/Major_developmen ts/York_northwest/ pedalling paul
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12:01pm Thu 27 Dec 12

VladSchmidt says...

Nice pictures, goood to see this being covered. My friends dad worked here for years until the rape by Jarvis. A great shame York has been pillaged of it's industries.
Nice pictures, goood to see this being covered. My friends dad worked here for years until the rape by Jarvis. A great shame York has been pillaged of it's industries. VladSchmidt
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1:56pm Thu 27 Dec 12

bagnall1928@yahoo.com says...

I hope that any development of the historic areas of York City will be done sympathetically.'
We cannot preserve everything but the good structures that have historical significance.
Streets such as the Shambles, Micklegate, Stonegate, Blossom Street,
Coney Street, the Market Place (the original one in the centre not the shambles one.) so many worthwhile places Goodramgate, petergate stonegate. York is full of such wonderful streets.
I hope that any development of the historic areas of York City will be done sympathetically.' We cannot preserve everything but the good structures that have historical significance. Streets such as the Shambles, Micklegate, Stonegate, Blossom Street, Coney Street, the Market Place (the original one in the centre not the shambles one.) so many worthwhile places Goodramgate, petergate stonegate. York is full of such wonderful streets. bagnall1928@yahoo.com
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7:28pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

pedalling paul wrote:
capt spaulding wrote:
In preparation for any development of York central !

Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.
I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence?
More at http://www.york.gov.

uk/environment/Plann

ing/Major_developmen

ts/York_northwest/
Define 'actively working' ? Do you mean marketing ?

The biggest hurdle to overcome is viability and in the current economic climate the only two issues that can be addressed to de-risk and stimulate development are the removal of regulatory burden and the reduction of land values. To get this site moving, the land would need to be given away, all planning blackmail (S106) requirements removed and a big wedge of government subsidy and tax incentives offered. Without these, it will stay undeveloped for years, possibly decades to come.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]capt spaulding[/bold] wrote: In preparation for any development of York central ! Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence? More at http://www.york.gov. uk/environment/Plann ing/Major_developmen ts/York_northwest/[/p][/quote]Define 'actively working' ? Do you mean marketing ? The biggest hurdle to overcome is viability and in the current economic climate the only two issues that can be addressed to de-risk and stimulate development are the removal of regulatory burden and the reduction of land values. To get this site moving, the land would need to be given away, all planning blackmail (S106) requirements removed and a big wedge of government subsidy and tax incentives offered. Without these, it will stay undeveloped for years, possibly decades to come. Scarlet Pimpernel
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7:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ouseswimmer says...

I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great.
I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great. ouseswimmer
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12:00am Fri 28 Dec 12

Silver says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great.
Or they could do it Tokyo style and really cram them in.
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great.[/p][/quote]Or they could do it Tokyo style and really cram them in. Silver
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1:01am Fri 28 Dec 12

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Silver wrote:
ouseswimmer wrote: I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great.
Or they could do it Tokyo style and really cram them in.
Even better do it Hong Kong style.

All in good time, and because of UK immigration rates it is unavoidable, and is happening already in London.
[quote][p][bold]Silver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I do hope they build lots of one bed units for cheap housing. Huge tower blocks would be great.[/p][/quote]Or they could do it Tokyo style and really cram them in.[/p][/quote]Even better do it Hong Kong style. All in good time, and because of UK immigration rates it is unavoidable, and is happening already in London. Scarlet Pimpernel
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8:44am Fri 28 Dec 12

Hoofarted says...

I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well.

This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"
I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well. This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!" Hoofarted
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10:25am Fri 28 Dec 12

Paul Meoff says...

Hoofarted wrote:
I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well.

This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"
Or better still the 'Before Thatcher Memorial Museum'
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well. This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"[/p][/quote]Or better still the 'Before Thatcher Memorial Museum' Paul Meoff
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12:31pm Fri 28 Dec 12

roy_batty says...

Hoofarted wrote:
I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well. This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"
over 1,000,000 engineering jobs also disappeared under the 13 years of labour... and hugh bayley as played a big part in the desruction of engineering jobs in York, he recently lied in the press about how hard he fought to get a recent train fitting out contract to York (he wrote a letter to adonis, that was is hard work), he lied about how the tories gift wrapped it to Agility trains, in fact it was labour in 2009 and lord adonis who gift wrapped it, by leaving out certain clauses that would safe guard english manufacturing...
thatcher started it, but labour carried on her work, phoney blair and gordon brown are as guilty as she! dont be fooled by new labour, are yiu really that blind and cant see the destruction of engineering in york during the 13 labour years? hugh bayley and the labour phonies on the council dont want blue collar jobs in York!
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well. This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"[/p][/quote]over 1,000,000 engineering jobs also disappeared under the 13 years of labour... and hugh bayley as played a big part in the desruction of engineering jobs in York, he recently lied in the press about how hard he fought to get a recent train fitting out contract to York (he wrote a letter to adonis, that was is hard work), he lied about how the tories gift wrapped it to Agility trains, in fact it was labour in 2009 and lord adonis who gift wrapped it, by leaving out certain clauses that would safe guard english manufacturing... thatcher started it, but labour carried on her work, phoney blair and gordon brown are as guilty as she! dont be fooled by new labour, are yiu really that blind and cant see the destruction of engineering in york during the 13 labour years? hugh bayley and the labour phonies on the council dont want blue collar jobs in York! roy_batty
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1:09pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Paul Meoff wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well.

This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"
Or better still the 'Before Thatcher Memorial Museum'
Thatcher was only able to do this because she won the election. Not once. Not twice. Three times. People wanted her, more than anyone else, to be Prime Minister. So don't blame her: blame the Great British Unwash - er Public.

And Thatcher didn't privatise the railways: John Major did.

Perhaps you should see someone about this fixation problem.
[quote][p][bold]Paul Meoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: I think the site would make a superb museum. It could show all the old industries in depth that existed before Thatcher destroyed it. Redfern's glass factory, British Sugar factory, York Carriage works, The once Nationalised British Telecom, British Gas, National Electric board, and how about the once thriving mining industry. It would also be a good idea to reserve a section of the site for the NHS as well. This Museum could be called "BEFORE THATCHER!"[/p][/quote]Or better still the 'Before Thatcher Memorial Museum'[/p][/quote]Thatcher was only able to do this because she won the election. Not once. Not twice. Three times. People wanted her, more than anyone else, to be Prime Minister. So don't blame her: blame the Great British Unwash - er Public. And Thatcher didn't privatise the railways: John Major did. Perhaps you should see someone about this fixation problem. Ignatius Lumpopo
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5:09pm Fri 28 Dec 12

YSTClinguist says...

Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in? YSTClinguist
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5:42pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Bad Tackerler says...

Wanted - A new home for Freightliner Maintenance and 16 skilled men that will loose their jobs when the only remaining building still geared up for rail maintenance in York is flattened !
Wanted - A new home for Freightliner Maintenance and 16 skilled men that will loose their jobs when the only remaining building still geared up for rail maintenance in York is flattened ! Bad Tackerler
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5:48pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Paul Meoff says...

YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
I look forward to commuting on that ultra fast broadband. Will it be like a Star Trek transporter?
[quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]I look forward to commuting on that ultra fast broadband. Will it be like a Star Trek transporter? Paul Meoff
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6:12pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Bad Tackerler says...

Fair comment about the housing , could`nt agree more . Investment should also be put in with top quality job`s . We have enough retail and leisure
Fair comment about the housing , could`nt agree more . Investment should also be put in with top quality job`s . We have enough retail and leisure Bad Tackerler
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6:59pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Hoofarted says...

In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo

Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds!

I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one.

Perhaps you should do some homework on political history
In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history Hoofarted
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8:58am Sat 29 Dec 12

dctyke says...

YSTClinguist says...
5:09pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?”


And of course you would sell your house half price to a local 1st time buyer? House prices are what they are because of us. If this was adopted next to york station they would be soon sold on for a fast buck!
YSTClinguist says... 5:09pm Fri 28 Dec 12 Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?” And of course you would sell your house half price to a local 1st time buyer? House prices are what they are because of us. If this was adopted next to york station they would be soon sold on for a fast buck! dctyke
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10:28am Sat 29 Dec 12

oi oi savaloy says...

YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
[quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist! oi oi savaloy
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10:49am Sat 29 Dec 12

Bad Tackerler says...

It`s a sad situation . It`s only right to build much needed housing but it also helps if there is work to go to .
Once the old railway shed has gone York`s ability to attract rail work will be gone forever .
It`s a sad situation . It`s only right to build much needed housing but it also helps if there is work to go to . Once the old railway shed has gone York`s ability to attract rail work will be gone forever . Bad Tackerler
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12:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Bo Jolly says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
You are indeed a bogoted racist.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]You are indeed a bogoted racist. Bo Jolly
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1:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

desmond tiblets says...

Bo Jolly wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
You are indeed a bogoted racist.
A bigoted racist or someone who dares speak the truth about what is really happening?
[quote][p][bold]Bo Jolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]You are indeed a bogoted racist.[/p][/quote]A bigoted racist or someone who dares speak the truth about what is really happening? desmond tiblets
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1:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Allocating social/council housing to immigrants ahead of British-born citizens is wrong.

The position needs changing.
Allocating social/council housing to immigrants ahead of British-born citizens is wrong. The position needs changing. Scarlet Pimpernel
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1:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Hoofarted says...

The allocation of social housing came later. Initially, the Polish and eastern European people came here purely because of property developers and other employers seeing them as a way of exploiting cheaper wage labour. They were used by a few property developers i know of to build their houses far cheaper than British workers. They were organized with temporary housing and advised how to apply for social housing by these property developers (who incidentally were staunch conservatives). The social housing issue came after the exploitation. So let's look at the demanding of supply rather than the agencies their to ensure "Humans" can live with a roof over their heads.
The allocation of social housing came later. Initially, the Polish and eastern European people came here purely because of property developers and other employers seeing them as a way of exploiting cheaper wage labour. They were used by a few property developers i know of to build their houses far cheaper than British workers. They were organized with temporary housing and advised how to apply for social housing by these property developers (who incidentally were staunch conservatives). The social housing issue came after the exploitation. So let's look at the demanding of supply rather than the agencies their to ensure "Humans" can live with a roof over their heads. Hoofarted
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2:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12

oi oi savaloy says...

Bo Jolly wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
You are indeed a bogoted racist.
Ok bo jolly explain to me what was bigoted and racist in my post??
[quote][p][bold]Bo Jolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]You are indeed a bogoted racist.[/p][/quote]Ok bo jolly explain to me what was bigoted and racist in my post?? oi oi savaloy
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2:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

oi oi savaloy says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
Bo Jolly wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
You are indeed a bogoted racist.
Ok bo jolly explain to me what was bigoted and racist in my post??
Just spotted my typo .. Oops :D
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bo Jolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]You are indeed a bogoted racist.[/p][/quote]Ok bo jolly explain to me what was bigoted and racist in my post??[/p][/quote]Just spotted my typo .. Oops :D oi oi savaloy
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2:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12

AnotherPointofView says...

Hoofarted wrote:
In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history
If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty.

Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992.

Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor.
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history[/p][/quote]If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty. Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992. Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor. AnotherPointofView
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2:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12

AnotherPointofView says...

Hoofarted wrote:
In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history
Further to my last comment, just who do you think you (as a member of the Labour party) are, making those comments about the Falklands War?

Which party took us into war in Iraq on some notion of WMD's. Now that was murder, on a much larger scale?
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history[/p][/quote]Further to my last comment, just who do you think you (as a member of the Labour party) are, making those comments about the Falklands War? Which party took us into war in Iraq on some notion of WMD's. Now that was murder, on a much larger scale? AnotherPointofView
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

TERRIER3 says...

desmond tiblets wrote:
Bo Jolly wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote:
Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent!

my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in!

but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
You are indeed a bogoted racist.
A bigoted racist or someone who dares speak the truth about what is really happening?
the guy who thinks your a bigoted racist is the dangerous one, yorkshire housing and jobs for yorkshire folk, any foriegners who dont like it know where the airports are
[quote][p][bold]desmond tiblets[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bo Jolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]You are indeed a bogoted racist.[/p][/quote]A bigoted racist or someone who dares speak the truth about what is really happening?[/p][/quote]the guy who thinks your a bigoted racist is the dangerous one, yorkshire housing and jobs for yorkshire folk, any foriegners who dont like it know where the airports are TERRIER3
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6:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Hoofarted wrote:
The allocation of social housing came later. Initially, the Polish and eastern European people came here purely because of property developers and other employers seeing them as a way of exploiting cheaper wage labour. They were used by a few property developers i know of to build their houses far cheaper than British workers. They were organized with temporary housing and advised how to apply for social housing by these property developers (who incidentally were staunch conservatives). The social housing issue came after the exploitation. So let's look at the demanding of supply rather than the agencies their to ensure "Humans" can live with a roof over their heads.
Don't blame developers for bringing them here - they came of their own freewill, speculatively looking for work.

Don't blame developers for them applying for social housing either.

The allocation of social housing to immigrants has nothing to do with developers.
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: The allocation of social housing came later. Initially, the Polish and eastern European people came here purely because of property developers and other employers seeing them as a way of exploiting cheaper wage labour. They were used by a few property developers i know of to build their houses far cheaper than British workers. They were organized with temporary housing and advised how to apply for social housing by these property developers (who incidentally were staunch conservatives). The social housing issue came after the exploitation. So let's look at the demanding of supply rather than the agencies their to ensure "Humans" can live with a roof over their heads.[/p][/quote]Don't blame developers for bringing them here - they came of their own freewill, speculatively looking for work. Don't blame developers for them applying for social housing either. The allocation of social housing to immigrants has nothing to do with developers. Scarlet Pimpernel
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6:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

AnotherPointofView wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history
If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty.

Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992.

Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor.
Who is this councillor ?
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history[/p][/quote]If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty. Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992. Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor.[/p][/quote]Who is this councillor ? Scarlet Pimpernel
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11:16pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Thunderblade says...

Dont panic, nothing will be put on the site for many years. CYC are only good at knocking buildings down ie. Peasholm Centre, Splash Palace Lowfields School.
Or alternatively, if not knockingthem down its closing EPH's before biulding replacements.
Dont panic, nothing will be put on the site for many years. CYC are only good at knocking buildings down ie. Peasholm Centre, Splash Palace Lowfields School. Or alternatively, if not knockingthem down its closing EPH's before biulding replacements. Thunderblade
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9:24am Mon 31 Dec 12

www.yorkstories.co.uk says...

To return to the subject of the article, if anyone's interested in reading more about these buildings, see http://bit.ly/S1gO9n (shortened link) on my website, for more information, (mainly via relevant links to maps/planning docs)

Bill Fawcett's lecture in January may also be of interest (details on that page).

I covered this demolition work some weeks ago on yorkstories.co.uk, and the buildings (as much as I could) a couple of times over recent years. Didn't have proper access to the site though. Have been following Nathan's photos with interest. It's great that his record of the buildings is freely available on the web.
To return to the subject of the article, if anyone's interested in reading more about these buildings, see http://bit.ly/S1gO9n (shortened link) on my website, for more information, (mainly via relevant links to maps/planning docs) Bill Fawcett's lecture in January may also be of interest (details on that page). I covered this demolition work some weeks ago on yorkstories.co.uk, and the buildings (as much as I could) a couple of times over recent years. Didn't have proper access to the site though. Have been following Nathan's photos with interest. It's great that his record of the buildings is freely available on the web. www.yorkstories.co.uk
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5:11pm Tue 1 Jan 13

Funnyian says...

Solved all the problems in one go….A multi story car park. no more need for park and ride less congestion on coppergate and attracting tourists away from out of town shopping There Solved!
Solved all the problems in one go….A multi story car park. no more need for park and ride less congestion on coppergate and attracting tourists away from out of town shopping There Solved! Funnyian
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2:21pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Yorkie Girl says...

AnotherPointofView wrote:
Hoofarted wrote: In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history
If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty. Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992. Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor.
After a quick google, i think you're both right and wrong...
Maggie T came into power in 1979, was re-elected in 1983, and 1987. however she had to resign after her pulling the population to their knees with her taxes etc and John Major took over in 1990, and was elected in '92.

i think the fact of the matter is, no previous PMs have done the UK, or Yorks industries any good!
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: In response to: Ignatius Lumpopo Yes Thatcher was dearly loved. As disclosed today, Jimmy Saviles personal love letters to her clearly showed who loved her deeply and it paid of with a nice reward from her too. Arise Sir Paedo of Leeds! I thought Thatcher only won 2 elections? One being the 1979 one and then 1983 on the back of deranged jingoism over the Falkland murders of our troops. Her own party knifed her and installed Mr Grey (John Major) who narrowly won the 3rd one. Perhaps you should do some homework on political history[/p][/quote]If you checked YOUR facts, you would realise you're the numpty. Margaret won in 1979, 1983 and 1987. John Major won in 1992. Perhaps before spouting all that vitriol you should check your facts, Councillor.[/p][/quote]After a quick google, i think you're both right and wrong... Maggie T came into power in 1979, was re-elected in 1983, and 1987. however she had to resign after her pulling the population to their knees with her taxes etc and John Major took over in 1990, and was elected in '92. i think the fact of the matter is, no previous PMs have done the UK, or Yorks industries any good! Yorkie Girl
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5:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

yorkispants says...

york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT.
when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it.
in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'
york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT. when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it. in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW' yorkispants
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8:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

desmond tiblets says...

yorkispants wrote:
york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT.
when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it.
in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'
****
[quote][p][bold]yorkispants[/bold] wrote: york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT. when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it. in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'[/p][/quote]**** desmond tiblets
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9:12pm Wed 2 Jan 13

oi oi savaloy says...

yorkispants wrote:
york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT.
when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it.
in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'
Obviously a bitter and twisted person who failed the entrance exam at the training school...
[quote][p][bold]yorkispants[/bold] wrote: york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT. when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it. in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'[/p][/quote]Obviously a bitter and twisted person who failed the entrance exam at the training school... oi oi savaloy
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9:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13

desmond tiblets says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
yorkispants wrote:
york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT.
when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it.
in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'
Obviously a bitter and twisted person who failed the entrance exam at the training school...
Ha ha.well said.And let's face it there are few I've met in my working life,all of them bitter and twisted about there rejection.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkispants[/bold] wrote: york carriage works had the best tradesmen in their chosen field be it sparkys plumbers painters joiners fitters etc. the problem was they were all without exception lazy bast@~?s FACT. when the time came for them to live in the real world without huge government subsides they couldn't do it. in the 1980's they openly boasted 'DON'T DO TODAY WHAT 4 OF YOU CAN DO TOMORROW'[/p][/quote]Obviously a bitter and twisted person who failed the entrance exam at the training school...[/p][/quote]Ha ha.well said.And let's face it there are few I've met in my working life,all of them bitter and twisted about there rejection. desmond tiblets
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10:48am Thu 3 Jan 13

meme says...

I thought CoYC would not let demolition go ahead where NO planning was granted? or is this another case of one rule for one party ie CoYC and one for the rest of us
I suspect this was more about avoiding empty rates burdens than new development
I thought CoYC would not let demolition go ahead where NO planning was granted? or is this another case of one rule for one party ie CoYC and one for the rest of us I suspect this was more about avoiding empty rates burdens [like Del Monte on A19] than new development meme
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12:52pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Bad Tackerler says...

Strange, if all the men that worked in the carriage works are all lazy b-------- how come most of em found work else where in the rail industry ?
A few of em that are still left are now working back in York fitting out coal wagons .
Strange, if all the men that worked in the carriage works are all lazy b-------- how come most of em found work else where in the rail industry ? A few of em that are still left are now working back in York fitting out coal wagons . Bad Tackerler
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1:14pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Bad Tackerler says...

Still think it`s wrong to develop a site for more shops and no doubt pubs / pizza hut ect . We` ve got Monks Cross /Clifton Moor for this .
Develop this site for rail industry/engineering . There is so much work coming off soon . York could be back at the for front of industry once again
Still think it`s wrong to develop a site for more shops and no doubt pubs / pizza hut ect . We` ve got Monks Cross /Clifton Moor for this . Develop this site for rail industry/engineering . There is so much work coming off soon . York could be back at the for front of industry once again Bad Tackerler
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2:21pm Sat 5 Jan 13

oi oi savaloy says...

Bad Tackerler wrote:
Still think it`s wrong to develop a site for more shops and no doubt pubs / pizza hut ect . We` ve got Monks Cross /Clifton Moor for this .
Develop this site for rail industry/engineering . There is so much work coming off soon . York could be back at the for front of industry once again
You mate have got it right! I know lots of people who went on from the carriageworks into other railway jobs and lots went on to other companies and are still working, I don't know any ex shed people who are unemployed!
But am afraid Hugh bayley and the labour run council don't want engineering jobs in York , they want shop work and tourism! Hugh bayley had the chance in 2009 when labour were in power to bring train making back to York , he did nothing! This work is now about 60 miles up the road nr Darlington !

Don't be fooled by Hugh bayley and his false labour cronies on York council !
[quote][p][bold]Bad Tackerler[/bold] wrote: Still think it`s wrong to develop a site for more shops and no doubt pubs / pizza hut ect . We` ve got Monks Cross /Clifton Moor for this . Develop this site for rail industry/engineering . There is so much work coming off soon . York could be back at the for front of industry once again[/p][/quote]You mate have got it right! I know lots of people who went on from the carriageworks into other railway jobs and lots went on to other companies and are still working, I don't know any ex shed people who are unemployed! But am afraid Hugh bayley and the labour run council don't want engineering jobs in York , they want shop work and tourism! Hugh bayley had the chance in 2009 when labour were in power to bring train making back to York , he did nothing! This work is now about 60 miles up the road nr Darlington ! Don't be fooled by Hugh bayley and his false labour cronies on York council ! oi oi savaloy
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10:55am Sun 6 Jan 13

Bad Tackerler says...

So I guess that we will end up with more shops then ?
What a travesty ! Shame on the power` s
that be . Retail instead of engineering .
So I guess that we will end up with more shops then ? What a travesty ! Shame on the power` s that be . Retail instead of engineering . Bad Tackerler
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4:43pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Bad Tackerler says...

Network Rail are showing that there is life in the central site . They are investing in the future with their new training and singling center .
There is going to be a new high speed train route to Birmingham and then possible to Leeds .
Here`s a suggestion for the power`s that be . Why not invest in the future and not for a quick buck by attracting the rail industry back to York by developing the site for the massive amount of work that will be generated by this project .
Network Rail are showing that there is life in the central site . They are investing in the future with their new training and singling center . There is going to be a new high speed train route to Birmingham and then possible to Leeds . Here`s a suggestion for the power`s that be . Why not invest in the future and not for a quick buck by attracting the rail industry back to York by developing the site for the massive amount of work that will be generated by this project . Bad Tackerler
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4:47pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Bad Tackerler says...

Not forgetting the Museum to who have invested in a new turntable !
Not forgetting the Museum to who have invested in a new turntable ! Bad Tackerler
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3:41pm Sun 13 Jan 13

alan_music says...

pedalling paul wrote:
capt spaulding wrote: In preparation for any development of York central ! Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.
I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence? More at http://www.york.gov. uk/environment/Plann ing/Major_developmen ts/York_northwest/
haha seems "Meddling Paul" has not had the experience of the grade A Customer Service and lack of people skills the idiots at COYC seem to have, brain dead morons half of them, a clear clear case of the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead!!!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]capt spaulding[/bold] wrote: In preparation for any development of York central ! Not if C of Y Council Planning Prevention Dept have anything to do with it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that CoYC are still actively working with local partners to attract likely developers for the York Central / Northwest project. But who in the present economic climate, can magic up large scale business confidence? More at http://www.york.gov. uk/environment/Plann ing/Major_developmen ts/York_northwest/[/p][/quote]haha seems "Meddling Paul" has not had the experience of the grade A Customer Service and lack of people skills the idiots at COYC seem to have, brain dead morons half of them, a clear clear case of the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead!!! alan_music
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3:45pm Sun 13 Jan 13

alan_music says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
YSTClinguist wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?
the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist!
quite right, its disgusting that the majority of us "British" folk get cast away to rent private property, that we cant afford (trust me coyc did it to me also told me me and my wife and kid were not entitled to a council property)

but the immigrants get a cushy council property, with all their bills paid finacial help from COYC and the goverment, I think its time someone did something about it

Yours A Bigotist Racist!
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: Will all the new housing be guaranteed to be affordable for our kids to live in, in the city where they grow up and are educated? Or is this going to be housing for the Southerners who come to live up here (and commute back down) when the A1 gets turned into a motorway and ultra fast broadband is put in?[/p][/quote]the affordable housing will go to immigrants, and then 'our kids' will have to private rent! my daughter was told she didnt qualify by york city council for a council house, she was told she had to private rent and then they would pay her housing benefit! yet a polish girl in the same situation got a nice new council flat on heworth green, they then gave one to a turkish girl who lied about her situation , once in the flat , she moved her partner in! but if you moan about it, you are branded a bogoted racist![/p][/quote]quite right, its disgusting that the majority of us "British" folk get cast away to rent private property, that we cant afford (trust me coyc did it to me also told me me and my wife and kid were not entitled to a council property) but the immigrants get a cushy council property, with all their bills paid finacial help from COYC and the goverment, I think its time someone did something about it Yours A Bigotist Racist! alan_music
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12:30pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

In the 1930s, after years of economic depression, it resulted in the birth of the fascist Nazi party in Germany. It was acceptable to persecute the German Jews whom the Nazis blamed for the manipulation of homeland industry on the grounds of nationalism. The positive work ethic of the Jewish population was a definite annoyance to the Aryan racists and fanned the flames of a worldwide conflagration that ensued in 1939. Millions died.

National pride is one thing but tolerance of Fascists, jingoists and neo-Nazis is dangerous. As long as we remember the lessons learned from history it's possible to have hope for the future. Forget them at our peril.
In the 1930s, after years of economic depression, it resulted in the birth of the fascist Nazi party in Germany. It was acceptable to persecute the German Jews whom the Nazis blamed for the manipulation of homeland industry on the grounds of nationalism. The positive work ethic of the Jewish population was a definite annoyance to the Aryan racists and fanned the flames of a worldwide conflagration that ensued in 1939. Millions died. National pride is one thing but tolerance of Fascists, jingoists and neo-Nazis is dangerous. As long as we remember the lessons learned from history it's possible to have hope for the future. Forget them at our peril. Garrowby Turnoff
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