Trains ‘bounced’ over damaged rail track

Trains ‘bounced’ over damaged rail track

An East Coat train heads towards the broken rail at Copmanthorpe, York, arrowed

A workman by the damaged track

First published in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter

TRAINS were “bouncing” along the East Coast mainline and shaking a nearby home for a fortnight before a five-inch gap was found in the track near York, a local resident has claimed.

Chris Sharp, who lives beside the line in Copmanthorpe, spoke out yesterday after The Press reported claims by the RMT union that the gap had placed passengers and staff at risk of a potentially lethal incident.

The claims were denied by Network Rail, which said that after being notified by a train driver on the neighbouring line, all trains were stopped from travelling over the fault until the track was replaced, and safety issues would never be compromised.

Mr Sharp said the damaged rail was at the end of his garden, about 50 metres north of the Temple Lane bridge over the railway, and he had seen it from his home and taken the pictures featured here, showing rail workers alongside the damaged track.

He said he saw a train pull up and the driver get out of his cab and pick up a chunk of rail, before the arrival of inspectors.

“Trains had been bouncing through this section of rail for a couple of weeks,” he claimed. “It was causing the house to shake far more than normal.”

He believed the ballast below the tracks had subsided, causing trains to bounce and putting pressure on the rails.

A Network Rail spokeswoman said yesterday that a rail defect at Copmanthorpe had been picked up at the start of November and maintenance and inspection planned, as was normal and entirely within standards.

“We will look into the claim about vibration,” she said. “However, we inspect the mainline every seven days and drivers report any rough rides etc, which are inspected as a normal part of our processes, and additional inspection and maintenance was completed as a result of the minor defect being found.”

She said Network Rail’s Community Relations helpline was available 24 hours a day on 08457 11 41 41, which people could ring to report any infrastructure issues. Safety issues go straight to control for action.

• The Press yesterday reported claims by the RMT union that the damaged track was at Colton. Network Rail confirmed yesterday it was further along the line at Copmanthorpe.

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12:11pm Wed 5 Dec 12

YorkPatrol says...

Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about
Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about YorkPatrol
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12:18pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Maltkiln says...

.... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!!
.... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!! Maltkiln
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12:54pm Wed 5 Dec 12

MouseHouse says...

Maltkiln wrote:
.... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!!
How do you know he didn't?
[quote][p][bold]Maltkiln[/bold] wrote: .... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!![/p][/quote]How do you know he didn't? MouseHouse
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1:04pm Wed 5 Dec 12

twoleftfeet says...

Trains had been bouncing through this section of rail for a couple of weeks,” he claimed. “It was causing the house to shake far more than normal.”
He believed the ballast below the tracks had subsided, causing trains to bounce and putting pressure on the rails.

Heh heh, is Mr Sharp a Permamnent Way engineer all of a sudden? Any number of things may have caused the track defect!!
Trains had been bouncing through this section of rail for a couple of weeks,” he claimed. “It was causing the house to shake far more than normal.” He believed the ballast below the tracks had subsided, causing trains to bounce and putting pressure on the rails. Heh heh, is Mr Sharp a Permamnent Way engineer all of a sudden? Any number of things may have caused the track defect!! twoleftfeet
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3:55pm Wed 5 Dec 12

R'Marcus says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about
Mr, Sharp is WRIGHT.
Some of the rails which carry engine tranes and carriages are down right dangers, especially on the Copmanthorpe straight.
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about[/p][/quote]Mr, Sharp is WRIGHT. Some of the rails which carry engine tranes and carriages are down right dangers, especially on the Copmanthorpe straight. R'Marcus
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3:56pm Wed 5 Dec 12

R'Marcus says...

Maltkiln wrote:
.... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!!
Better late than never.
[quote][p][bold]Maltkiln[/bold] wrote: .... If this Mr Sharp had been concerned for weeks that the trains had been bouncing over a damaged track ... why didn't he do something about it, like inform the relevant authorities etc ..... rather than bleating about it after the event ?!!![/p][/quote]Better late than never. R'Marcus
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4:38pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Madasanibbotson says...

Has Mr Sharp just moved ?. The voters roll and google street maps don't tally with the report/picture !!!
Has Mr Sharp just moved ?. The voters roll and google street maps don't tally with the report/picture !!! Madasanibbotson
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5:06pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Caecilius says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about
Then maybe he could get a job with Jarvis Rail, the company that claimed the fatal Potters Bar crash had been caused by an imaginary saboteur crawling around at dead of night loosening bolts on the track that they were contracted to maintain?

Except he can't, because, having caused the death of 7 people through its negligence, Jarvis subsequently went bust. And the organisation in charge at the time, Network Rail - which is still the organisation in charge today - was fined £3 million for safety failings. Given the track record of the "professionals", we ought to be grateful for other people chipping in.
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about[/p][/quote]Then maybe he could get a job with Jarvis Rail, the company that claimed the fatal Potters Bar crash had been caused by an imaginary saboteur crawling around at dead of night loosening bolts on the track that they were contracted to maintain? Except he can't, because, having caused the death of 7 people through its negligence, Jarvis subsequently went bust. And the organisation in charge at the time, Network Rail - which is still the organisation in charge today - was fined £3 million for safety failings. Given the track record of the "professionals", we ought to be grateful for other people chipping in. Caecilius
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5:36pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Platform9 says...

Why are no comments allowed on the Flooding article?. Heavy under-investment and continual flooding of Water Lane which has been known about for donkeys years and no-one allowed to comment on the report to council regards lack of funding by sucessive elected parties?
Why are no comments allowed on the Flooding article?. Heavy under-investment and continual flooding of Water Lane which has been known about for donkeys years and no-one allowed to comment on the report to council regards lack of funding by sucessive elected parties? Platform9
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6:41pm Wed 5 Dec 12

the butler says...

I was wondering the same thing as platform9, for donkey's years at flood time that area has been under some water, I don't think a survey was ever carried out about water levels of the Ouse and the surface water levels at Water lane during high water flood times, Either this is a drainage problem or an overflow problem, one or the other or perhaps both...
I was wondering the same thing as platform9, for donkey's years at flood time that area has been under some water, I don't think a survey was ever carried out about water levels of the Ouse and the surface water levels at Water lane during high water flood times, Either this is a drainage problem or an overflow problem, one or the other or perhaps both... the butler
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7:35am Thu 6 Dec 12

pedalling paul says...

Very similar circumstances to the Hither Green train crash of 1967. Over 40 were killed in a derailment caused by a similar rail joint failure.
NR have tried to play down what could have become a very serious incident. Thankfully the fault escalated during daylight and was spotted by a vigilant driver. Had the full failure occurred in the dark, we might be reading a very different story. I hope that the RAIB are tasked to investigate and hold NR to account. Rough riding reports are ignored at the industry's peril.
Very similar circumstances to the Hither Green train crash of 1967. Over 40 were killed in a derailment caused by a similar rail joint failure. NR have tried to play down what could have become a very serious incident. Thankfully the fault escalated during daylight and was spotted by a vigilant driver. Had the full failure occurred in the dark, we might be reading a very different story. I hope that the RAIB are tasked to investigate and hold NR to account. Rough riding reports are ignored at the industry's peril. pedalling paul
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9:50am Thu 6 Dec 12

YorkPatrol says...

Caecilius wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote: Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about
Then maybe he could get a job with Jarvis Rail, the company that claimed the fatal Potters Bar crash had been caused by an imaginary saboteur crawling around at dead of night loosening bolts on the track that they were contracted to maintain? Except he can't, because, having caused the death of 7 people through its negligence, Jarvis subsequently went bust. And the organisation in charge at the time, Network Rail - which is still the organisation in charge today - was fined £3 million for safety failings. Given the track record of the "professionals"
, we ought to be grateful for other people chipping in.
By all means report the fault but don’t make daft assumptions about subsidence and the cause of the rail fault!

Also, it seems Sharpe only “chipped in” after the RMT article was published so it seems he is nothing more than a trouble causer sticking his nose in after the event.

I have no idea where the reference to Jarvis Rail came from – a little pointless, but please bear in mind that the Maintenance contract was taken back in house within Network Rail following the failings by Jarvis
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: Mr Sharp needs to wind his neck in, stop interfering, scare mongering and talking about something he clearly knows nothing about[/p][/quote]Then maybe he could get a job with Jarvis Rail, the company that claimed the fatal Potters Bar crash had been caused by an imaginary saboteur crawling around at dead of night loosening bolts on the track that they were contracted to maintain? Except he can't, because, having caused the death of 7 people through its negligence, Jarvis subsequently went bust. And the organisation in charge at the time, Network Rail - which is still the organisation in charge today - was fined £3 million for safety failings. Given the track record of the "professionals" , we ought to be grateful for other people chipping in.[/p][/quote]By all means report the fault but don’t make daft assumptions about subsidence and the cause of the rail fault! Also, it seems Sharpe only “chipped in” after the RMT article was published so it seems he is nothing more than a trouble causer sticking his nose in after the event. I have no idea where the reference to Jarvis Rail came from – a little pointless, but please bear in mind that the Maintenance contract was taken back in house within Network Rail following the failings by Jarvis YorkPatrol
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10:43pm Thu 6 Dec 12

yorkborn66 says...

Mr. Sharp shares the same type of anal attitudes associated with the minority of Copmanthorpe Folk, giving the village a bad name. At least he has something to chat about in his silly middle class, do goody, café.
This rail was reported well before the press published the story. Looks like you have made a fool of yourself again!
Mr. Sharp shares the same type of anal attitudes associated with the minority of Copmanthorpe Folk, giving the village a bad name. At least he has something to chat about in his silly middle class, do goody, café. This rail was reported well before the press published the story. Looks like you have made a fool of yourself again! yorkborn66
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