York MP yards from suicide bomb in Afghanistan (From York Press)
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York MP Hugh Bayley yards from suicide bomb in Afghanistan
9:42am Wednesday 28th November 2012 in News
By Mark Stead, Political Reporter
Hugh Bayley
A SUICIDE bomber blew himself up yards from York MP Hugh Bayley as he visited Afghanistan.
Mr Bayley had travelled to Kabul last week for the first task in his new two-year role as president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly when the blast happened.
Two security guards were killed when the bomber struck near NATO’s Afghan HQ, which Mr Bayley was visiting.
The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, which is believed to have been targeted at a nearby CIA office in the heavily fortified diplomatic zone.
Mr Bayley was in Kabul to check progress on the transfer of security responsibilities for Afghanistan’s armed forces and police.
He said: “The explosion happened a couple of hundred yards away from where I was at the time – although I didn’t see it, I certainly heard it.
“We had been talking to one of the top military commanders and somebody came in and immediately gave him a briefing on the attack, and everything stopped for a time while the security situation was assessed. It is shocking that somebody can be brainwashed into doing such a thing and sacrificing their life.
“It brought home to all of us the very difficult circumstances and the danger our military personnel and civilian staff there are working and living under. They are doing a very important job in incredibly difficult conditions”
Despite the suicide attack last Wednesday, Mr Bayley said he was optimistic about Afghanistan’s future and believed the Afghan army and police would be a “formidable force” when they take control of security. But he said the country’s presidential elections must have “legitimacy” and NATO had a key role to play in ensuring that.
He said: “It needs to be an election which generates confidence among the Afghan people, and whoever is elected must have good support, otherwise the political leadership necessary for the country to combat terrorism will not be there.
“The military can reduce the risk of terrorist attacks, but the only solution for Afghanistan is a political solution and a consensus around a government which has the support of the majority of the people.”
Comments(22)
capt spaulding
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10:19am Wed 28 Nov 12
TheTruthHurts
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10:54am Wed 28 Nov 12
Are we paying for him to be part of this NATO thing? If so why? if he wants to save the world shouldn’t he quit his full time job to do so? And what on earth does Hugh Bayley know about 'the transfer of security responsibilities for Afghanistan’s armed forces and police'?
It would be a joke if it wasnt costing us so much money.
notsmallminded
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11:15am Wed 28 Nov 12
" Taliban on new UK support initiative"
When are they running for elections in York?
They would surely win Bayley's seat?
Capt. Dobie
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11:31am Wed 28 Nov 12
An MPs job is more than making sure the bins in York are empty; if it's a NATO thing then NATO will pay for it.
It's not like he's poncing about the Australian jungle...he's doing something to help the Afgahn transition and gets our servicemen home.
I'm not meaning to defend him, merely suggesting a balenced or alternative view that us mere mortals may not have the full info on.
dodgydavereturns
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11:34am Wed 28 Nov 12
notsmallminded wrote:No, they would never get in.
Surely the headline should be; " Taliban on new UK support initiative" When are they running for elections in York? They would surely win Bayley's seat?
York would not allow a corrupt, oppressive regime, who were disrespectful of it's voters, lied to get just what they wanted and ruled the land with a heavy hand in a 'like it or lump it' style.......Oh hang on a minute! ....
By the look of that photo, I think he was going to support the troops as a 'Bob Hope' tribute act!
M.Lucas
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12:42pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Mr Bayley said: "“The explosion happened a COUPLE OF HUNDRED YARDS away from where I was at the time – although I didn’t see it, I certainly heard it."
Which the Press translate into "A suicide bomber blew himself up YARDS from York MP Hugh Bayley as he visited Afghanistan."
Whilst technically correct I guess obviously not the common usage of 'yards'.
Used to be a forward on my school football team (I wasn't very good) and my teacher would often shout at me for being "Yards offside". Now, I did like to goal-hang, but I certainly wasn't in a different building a couple of hundred yards behind the goal...
perplexed
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1:16pm Wed 28 Nov 12
TheTruthHurts wrote:Considering several people lost their lives, questions over who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit (when it clearly states it is in his capacity as president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly) seems tasteless to say the least. And you wonder why so many people are disengaged from politics today !
So what is this role all about, isnt he supposed to be the MP for York central? That is a full time job surely considering his wages and perks.
Are we paying for him to be part of this NATO thing? If so why? if he wants to save the world shouldn’t he quit his full time job to do so? And what on earth does Hugh Bayley know about 'the transfer of security responsibilities for Afghanistan’s armed forces and police'?
It would be a joke if it wasnt costing us so much money.
M.Lucas
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1:25pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed wrote:Whilst I'm on my correcting those that over-egg the pudding spree:
TheTruthHurts wrote:Considering several people lost their lives, questions over who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit (when it clearly states it is in his capacity as president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly) seems tasteless to say the least. And you wonder why so many people are disengaged from politics today !
So what is this role all about, isnt he supposed to be the MP for York central? That is a full time job surely considering his wages and perks.
Are we paying for him to be part of this NATO thing? If so why? if he wants to save the world shouldn’t he quit his full time job to do so? And what on earth does Hugh Bayley know about 'the transfer of security responsibilities for Afghanistan’s armed forces and police'?
It would be a joke if it wasnt costing us so much money.
perplexed wrote: "Considering several people lost their lives..."
The Press wrote: "Two security guards were killed"
Definition of 'several': " Being of a number more than two or three but not many"
Let's not sink to the level that the Press is at people...
TheTruthHurts
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1:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed wrote:Look with respect although it is sad, on a day to day basis im not concerned about suicide bombers in Afghanistan. However its not that big an ask for the MP for York to be actively campaigning for things on our behalf. Somebody posted a link to his website yesterday i had a look and it just confirmed that on a day to day basis the guy does sweet FA for his excessive cost. Dont worry though i have made a note of the date and when his expenses are published we will see just what NATO have paid for.... I presume NATO will be covering his salary for the period he is away to?
TheTruthHurts wrote:Considering several people lost their lives, questions over who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit (when it clearly states it is in his capacity as president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly) seems tasteless to say the least. And you wonder why so many people are disengaged from politics today !
So what is this role all about, isnt he supposed to be the MP for York central? That is a full time job surely considering his wages and perks.
Are we paying for him to be part of this NATO thing? If so why? if he wants to save the world shouldn’t he quit his full time job to do so? And what on earth does Hugh Bayley know about 'the transfer of security responsibilities for Afghanistan’s armed forces and police'?
It would be a joke if it wasnt costing us so much money.
perplexed
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1:48pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed
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1:48pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Jazzper
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2:16pm Wed 28 Nov 12
M.Lucas
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2:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Still not 'several' though.
Several: "Being of a number more than two or three but not many"
You're welcome.
Jazzper wrote: "I thought I hadn't seen him out on his bike recently !"
I saw him for the 1st time ever just the other day! Pretty amazing as he's admitted in the past that York is his 2nd home. London-living local MP...thanks voters of York.
LoveMyPuppy
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3:12pm Wed 28 Nov 12
"He said: “The explosion happened a couple of hundred yards away from where I was at the time – although I didn’t see it, I certainly heard it."
Seriously? Our boys are out there for months at a time risking their lives doing dangerous missions and you choose to report on this? And in the process you completely over dramatize it? Sort it out Press!
perplexed
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4:37pm Wed 28 Nov 12
M.Lucas wrote:Thankfully, not everyone has such a casual regard for human life. Every single death in Afghanistan is a tragedy. Although evidently, of far less importance in comparison to who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit, or how many yards he was from the bomb when it exploded. How terribly sad!
perplexed wrote: "Two security guards plus the bomber makes three in my book. Not that it matters, considering the tragedy that is Afghanistan."
Still not 'several' though.
Several: "Being of a number more than two or three but not many"
You're welcome.
Jazzper wrote: "I thought I hadn't seen him out on his bike recently !"
I saw him for the 1st time ever just the other day! Pretty amazing as he's admitted in the past that York is his 2nd home. London-living local MP...thanks voters of York.
TheTruthHurts
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4:55pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed wrote:There are three deaths, One a suicide bomber who wanted to die in martyrdom, and two security guards plying their trade in one of the most dangerous cities in the world. The deaths are tragic i agree. but sadly not uncommon.
M.Lucas wrote:Thankfully, not everyone has such a casual regard for human life. Every single death in Afghanistan is a tragedy. Although evidently, of far less importance in comparison to who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit, or how many yards he was from the bomb when it exploded. How terribly sad!
perplexed wrote: "Two security guards plus the bomber makes three in my book. Not that it matters, considering the tragedy that is Afghanistan."
Still not 'several' though.
Several: "Being of a number more than two or three but not many"
You're welcome.
Jazzper wrote: "I thought I hadn't seen him out on his bike recently !"
I saw him for the 1st time ever just the other day! Pretty amazing as he's admitted in the past that York is his 2nd home. London-living local MP...thanks voters of York.
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Whats your opinion on people who use such an event for a publicity opportunity or to raise their profile?
dodgydavereturns
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4:59pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed wrote:We are all agree that it is sad, we just don't all share the same opinion over what we find the saddest part of this story!
M.Lucas wrote: perplexed wrote: "Two security guards plus the bomber makes three in my book. Not that it matters, considering the tragedy that is Afghanistan." Still not 'several' though. Several: "Being of a number more than two or three but not many" You're welcome. Jazzper wrote: "I thought I hadn't seen him out on his bike recently !" I saw him for the 1st time ever just the other day! Pretty amazing as he's admitted in the past that York is his 2nd home. London-living local MP...thanks voters of York.Thankfully, not everyone has such a casual regard for human life. Every single death in Afghanistan is a tragedy. Although evidently, of far less importance in comparison to who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit, or how many yards he was from the bomb when it exploded. How terribly sad!
dodgydavereturns
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5:03pm Wed 28 Nov 12
M.Lucas
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5:20pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perplexed wrote:Forgive me, but when does Mr Bayley express any regard for the two security guards who were killed?
M.Lucas wrote:Thankfully, not everyone has such a casual regard for human life. Every single death in Afghanistan is a tragedy. Although evidently, of far less importance in comparison to who is paying for Hugh Bailey's visit, or how many yards he was from the bomb when it exploded. How terribly sad!
perplexed wrote: "Two security guards plus the bomber makes three in my book. Not that it matters, considering the tragedy that is Afghanistan."
Still not 'several' though.
Several: "Being of a number more than two or three but not many"
You're welcome.
Jazzper wrote: "I thought I hadn't seen him out on his bike recently !"
I saw him for the 1st time ever just the other day! Pretty amazing as he's admitted in the past that York is his 2nd home. London-living local MP...thanks voters of York.
He seems to be more interested in using the incident to talk about his position?
And my earlier comments about the distance (yards v couple hundred yards) were aimed at the Press over-sensationalizin
g the story.
You could argue that the reason people (in York) are being put off politics is that we have Mr Bayley, elected for the city of York, openly admitting that he lives here less than half of the time.
Mr Bayley in the Press on Sat 20th June 2009: “As a result of these extra jobs, I now spend about 160 days a year in York.”
(Small point: Ill never know why that wasn't on every piece of material opposition candidates sent out at the last election.)
I think it is perfectly reasonable for posters to question whether having an MP who spends a large amount of time on issues other than his constituency helps the people of York.
Digeorge
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8:24pm Wed 28 Nov 12
At least he is safe and the thoughts of Terrorism at the forefront of his mind adn brings it closer to home.
Don't forget that there are troops based here in York that are probably over there right now.
Gary Gilmores Eyes
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8:48am Thu 29 Nov 12
Well, lots of people obviously voted for Hugh Bayley as MP for the City of York. ‘
Just goes to prove that the world is full if idiots!
‘At least he is safe and the thoughts of Terrorism at the forefront of his mind adn brings it closer to home.’
There is no such thing as global terrorism, merely a PR ruse to get more control and further business models with impunity by the powers that be!
There is quite compelling evidence that Al Queda is made up by the US to create policy in the long game.
London 7/7 was a black flag operation as the so called terrorists that they named were not on the trains/locations the police stated as the trains were late getting into Kings Cross, also the blasts were from under the carriages not from the floor level as later stated.
Police sources later on changed many fundamental ‘facts’ the fit the story that was put out!
Why no public inquiry? Because the real truth ie. No explanations for certain events that’s why!
In 911 how come the dropping of building 7 was reported to the BBC and CNN by official sources? The BBC reporter was telling people that building 7 had collapsed and it was actually still up over her left shoulder! 8 mins later it was dropped in a controlled demolition!
Don’t believe either the so called truth or the conspiracy theories!
Make your own mind up from available evidence!
I suppose whilst he is over there spreading his joy he is not here causing mayhem! Is it not worth paying him to go away? just for longer!
anti-rant says...
9:57am Wed 28 Nov 12