Music firm tells school to take Tad Gram Style off net

Teacher Adam Dawson with pupils, from left, Jess Orr, Ben Prudhoe, Rachael McHenery and Natalie Prince demonstrate the Tad Gram Style

Teacher Adam Dawson with pupils, from left, Jess Orr, Ben Prudhoe, Rachael McHenery and Natalie Prince demonstrate the Tad Gram Style

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THE creator of the internet hit Tad Gram Style has been asked to take it off the web.

The parody of worldwide sensation Gangnam Style by staff at Tadcaster Grammar School - which had last night been viewed more than 187,000 times - may have to be removed from You Tube after teacher Adam Dawson was contacted by Universal Music Publishing and asked to take it down.

It had been hoped the song, which is raising money for Children In Need, may be released as a single, but Mr Dawson has been told all adaptations of the Psy hit have been embargoed.

He said: “I think it’s a real shame. It’s had so much good publicity for Children In Need, for the school, students, staff – it’s been fantastic and I think it’s a shame they can’t continue that and release a single in its own right.

“It’s been a great success in its own right anyway. It’s been fun and I think it’s done a lot of good.”

He said money was still being donated and he hoped to negotiate with Universal.

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9:59am Fri 23 Nov 12

MrsHoney says...

Stingy buggers.
Stingy buggers. MrsHoney
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10:05am Fri 23 Nov 12

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

If I created something and someone else took it and used it for their own purposes (even raising money for charity) I think they should have the courtesy of asking for my permission, at least.
If I created something and someone else took it and used it for their own purposes (even raising money for charity) I think they should have the courtesy of asking for my permission, at least. Ignatius Lumpopo
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10:08am Fri 23 Nov 12

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

If I created something and someone else took it and used it for their own purposes (even raising money for charity) I think they should have had the courtesy of asking for my permission, at least. What, for example, would the governors of Tadcaster Grammar think if one morning the school found itself covered in banners promoting the Cats' Protection League?
If I created something and someone else took it and used it for their own purposes (even raising money for charity) I think they should have had the courtesy of asking for my permission, at least. What, for example, would the governors of Tadcaster Grammar think if one morning the school found itself covered in banners promoting the Cats' Protection League? Ignatius Lumpopo
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10:24am Fri 23 Nov 12

capt spaulding says...

Miowe get your claws back in have a saucer of milk and hunt a few hedge sparrows.
Miowe get your claws back in have a saucer of milk and hunt a few hedge sparrows. capt spaulding
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10:55am Fri 23 Nov 12

ReflectiveVest says...

The music doesn't belong to them and they should have asked for permission to use it. For a school not to have realized that is rather disappointing. Having said that, Universal will surely see the sense in coming to an arrangement which would give the school its fun, the charity its money and themselves some positive publicity - as opposed to the negative publicity of being called, quite unjustly, stingy buggers.
The music doesn't belong to them and they should have asked for permission to use it. For a school not to have realized that is rather disappointing. Having said that, Universal will surely see the sense in coming to an arrangement which would give the school its fun, the charity its money and themselves some positive publicity - as opposed to the negative publicity of being called, quite unjustly, stingy buggers. ReflectiveVest
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11:47am Fri 23 Nov 12

jadestars says...

awww thats a shame .. Hopfully universal will allow it to stay online, It's not like the school are using it to raise money for themselves!
awww thats a shame .. Hopfully universal will allow it to stay online, It's not like the school are using it to raise money for themselves! jadestars
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11:50am Fri 23 Nov 12

Jo_ says...

"The music doesn't belong to them" - quite right, the music does NOT belong to Universal Music Publishing at all.

My advice to the school is consult a lawyer. I'm pretty certain that parody is perfectly allowable. Assuming they didn't sample any of the original tune they are perfectly within their rights to make a parody song of anything they like. They're not trying to imitate the song, they're lampooning it.
"The music doesn't belong to them" - quite right, the music does NOT belong to Universal Music Publishing at all. My advice to the school is consult a lawyer. I'm pretty certain that parody is perfectly allowable. Assuming they didn't sample any of the original tune they are perfectly within their rights to make a parody song of anything they like. They're not trying to imitate the song, they're lampooning it. Jo_
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2:09pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Davroshasissues says...

There are soooooo many parodies of this song, Gandalf style, Obama Style, Mitt Romney Style, Kim Jong style, youtube it, there are literally dozens if not hundreds. I'm pretty sure none of these have asked for permission to sample the song.

Surely if the school explains the situation to Universal they'd OK it, it's for charity for crying out loud...!
There are soooooo many parodies of this song, Gandalf style, Obama Style, Mitt Romney Style, Kim Jong style, youtube it, there are literally dozens if not hundreds. I'm pretty sure none of these have asked for permission to sample the song. Surely if the school explains the situation to Universal they'd OK it, it's for charity for crying out loud...! Davroshasissues
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2:10pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Robert Davro says...

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY YORKSHIRE PUDIINGS, HOT HOT HOT......
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY YORKSHIRE PUDIINGS, HOT HOT HOT...... Robert Davro
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2:10pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Robert Davro says...

*PUDDINGS
*PUDDINGS Robert Davro
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2:16pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Shouter says...

Bah, humbug!
What harm is there in having something so clever and witty raising money for charity?
Bah, humbug! What harm is there in having something so clever and witty raising money for charity? Shouter
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2:41pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Davroshasissues says...

No idea Shouter, comic relief does it every year...
No idea Shouter, comic relief does it every year... Davroshasissues
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2:51pm Fri 23 Nov 12

York1900 says...

You can not do any thing today with out big business want it share of what you do
You can not do any thing today with out big business want it share of what you do York1900
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2:51pm Fri 23 Nov 12

York1900 says...

You can not do any thing today with out big business want it share of what you do
You can not do any thing today with out big business want it share of what you do York1900
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3:24pm Fri 23 Nov 12

bid21 says...

And will the boys from Eton College who have done a similar thing be asked to take theirs off the internet - I think not!!
And will the boys from Eton College who have done a similar thing be asked to take theirs off the internet - I think not!! bid21
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3:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12

yorkonafork says...

Quite right too. You can't just take someone else's music and sell it off without even being consulted. It's not the making of it that's the problem it's the selling of it. Parodies happen daily.

At the end of the day, Universal will agree it's ok and this article and any follow up one will help push publicity anyway so it'll work out better.
Quite right too. You can't just take someone else's music and sell it off without even being consulted. It's not the making of it that's the problem it's the selling of it. Parodies happen daily. At the end of the day, Universal will agree it's ok and this article and any follow up one will help push publicity anyway so it'll work out better. yorkonafork
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4:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12

dsom73 says...

You don't need permission to cover someone else's music - you just need to pay a percentage of any income directly attributed as royalties.

As all income has been for charity, Universal have clearly opted for the option that makes them look less greedy - they could have sued for 100% royalties plus damages, and would've won hands down.

The embargoe speaks volumes though - they're obviously trying to protect recording rights rather than copyrights due to the popularity of the song making for good background music for TV & film. If they allow anyone to record it, anyone can get paid for those most lucrative royalties.

Smart move by Universal to be honest. Eton style may or may not get the same treatment depending on whether any income could be directly attributed to it.
You don't need permission to cover someone else's music - you just need to pay a percentage of any income directly attributed as royalties. As all income has been for charity, Universal have clearly opted for the option that makes them look less greedy - they could have sued for 100% royalties plus damages, and would've won hands down. The embargoe speaks volumes though - they're obviously trying to protect recording rights rather than copyrights due to the popularity of the song making for good background music for TV & film. If they allow anyone to record it, anyone can get paid for those most lucrative royalties. Smart move by Universal to be honest. Eton style may or may not get the same treatment depending on whether any income could be directly attributed to it. dsom73
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12:33am Sat 24 Nov 12

yorkborn66 says...

I really wish the school did not carry on miss representing itself. Your school has not been a grammar school for years!
When I first watched this on YouTube I wondered about royalties and permissions etc.
Well done to the school for a brave effort and thinking outside the box .
I really wish the school did not carry on miss representing itself. Your school has not been a grammar school for years! When I first watched this on YouTube I wondered about royalties and permissions etc. Well done to the school for a brave effort and thinking outside the box . yorkborn66
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11:44am Sat 24 Nov 12

lindyloon says...

This was briliant, I went to Tad Gramm, many mons ago, & I loved watching the video. Up yours to the Universal People :P
This was briliant, I went to Tad Gramm, many mons ago, & I loved watching the video. Up yours to the Universal People :P lindyloon
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10:22pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Mrsc2011 says...

yorkborn66 wrote:
I really wish the school did not carry on miss representing itself. Your school has not been a grammar school for years!
When I first watched this on YouTube I wondered about royalties and permissions etc.
Well done to the school for a brave effort and thinking outside the box .
Yorkborn66 not sure you can say school misrepresenting themselves because they called Tadcaster Grammar! Grammar schools went out with the ark and most parents with school age children are well aware of that fact! I couldn't care less about the name of the school my children attended as long as the teachers were innovative caring fun and inspired my child to do their best. Tad grammar has some fabulous teachers! Am sure they 5k they have already raised will be put to good use by CIN lets hope universal have a change of heart
[quote][p][bold]yorkborn66[/bold] wrote: I really wish the school did not carry on miss representing itself. Your school has not been a grammar school for years! When I first watched this on YouTube I wondered about royalties and permissions etc. Well done to the school for a brave effort and thinking outside the box .[/p][/quote]Yorkborn66 not sure you can say school misrepresenting themselves because they called Tadcaster Grammar! Grammar schools went out with the ark and most parents with school age children are well aware of that fact! I couldn't care less about the name of the school my children attended as long as the teachers were innovative caring fun and inspired my child to do their best. Tad grammar has some fabulous teachers! Am sure they 5k they have already raised will be put to good use by CIN lets hope universal have a change of heart Mrsc2011
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