Deighton villagers show support for reduction of A19 speed limit (From York Press)
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Deighton villagers show support for reduction of A19 speed limit
9:28am Thursday 22nd November 2012 in News
Villagers queue in Deighton to show their support for the lowering of the speed limit though the village
VILLAGERS between York and Selby have shown their support for the reduction of a speed limit on a road past their homes.
City of York Council this week discussed reducing the speed limit on the A19 past Deighton, from 60mph to 40mph, following a petition from residents drawn up after a teenager was killed in a crash on the road.
The council has agreed to carry out a feasibility study, but has told residents that a decision will not be possible until the next financial year, in April.
Coun George Barton, of Wheldrake Ward, said he was behind the proposed reduction.
“I feel very strongly about it. I have stood there many times to watch the traffic, and was standing there with 50 villagers, watching traffic, including HGVs absolutely rattling by on a very dangerous bend.
“There’s been a fatal accident and another accident in the last few weeks, and villagers have had enough.”
He said villagers wanted signs up now and for lighting and rumble strips to be sorted out as soon as possible, which he said could be done in the time it takes for a feasibility study.
Comments(20)
Ignatius Lumpopo
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9:56am Thu 22 Nov 12
Ignatius Lumpopo
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9:57am Thu 22 Nov 12
myselby
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10:26am Thu 22 Nov 12
BioLogic
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10:29am Thu 22 Nov 12
myselby wrote:I doubt it. You will have to get the council to implement it first and that is very difficult, they have a points system and it's a bit like most supermarket loyalty cards. it takes a long long time to get enough points, then all it gets you is a flashing sign!
This is a major road with few houses by the side of it- even at 40mph some of the accidents would have still happened – if people do not follow the Highway Code there is no hope for them – also the police have said if the speed limit was reduced they could not “police” it. Wonder if the new PCC will make it a priority?
BertieBrompton
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11:57am Thu 22 Nov 12
Sawday2
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12:05pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Gary Gilmores Eyes
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1:53pm Thu 22 Nov 12
They want a 40mph limit to protect themselves from themselves, they can’t even stay on the pavement!
Do they also want a 40mph limit on the nearby (2 miles) dual carriageway A64 as well?
NIMBYS… they bought the house in the village right next to the A19, the road has not moved closer!
ayork
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2:43pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Jazzper
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2:46pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Gary Gilmores Eyes wrote:Exactly...this is a busy 'A' road, the main link between York and Selby. People living there must have known this for sometime. I just cannot understand why they are making all this fuss. Have they NO thought for the hundreds of other people who use that road essentially every day!
Judging by the photo
They want a 40mph limit to protect themselves from themselves, they can’t even stay on the pavement!
Do they also want a 40mph limit on the nearby (2 miles) dual carriageway A64 as well?
NIMBYS… they bought the house in the village right next to the A19, the road has not moved closer!
Jazzper
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2:49pm Thu 22 Nov 12
BioLogic
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2:51pm Thu 22 Nov 12
ayork wrote:So what you need is a footbridge across the road or an underpass, not a 40mph speed limit!
Unless you've ever lived in Deighton you can't really comment or understand it. When I got off the bus and was crossing the road the traffic from Selby going past at 60mph is dangerous, it's poorly lit and drivers can not see the pedestrian crossing until its to late to slow down so if there is anyone crossing the risk is high. If it was a straight bit of road I could understand some of the comments on here but from the Selby direction the corner does make it dangerous as they do not see/expect people to be crossing.
It's a major trunk road linking two towns that has very high traffic flows at peak times. a 40mph limit there would cause delays as there is a 40mph limit further down the road for Escrick.
If you can't cross the road safely, don't cross the road.
Kevin Turvey
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3:36pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Either that or they are all trying to leave on the last bus out of town.
yorkshirelad
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4:42pm Thu 22 Nov 12
A lower speed limit might mean the possibility of getting across the road after getting off a bus. Without it, I can easily see how the road becomes an impenetrable barrier.
People who walk, cycle or use public transport (often as well as being car users) will understand this problem very well.
Sadly the group for whom a good walk is between their front door and their car will never understand life outside their car.
I don't know if it's an urban myth, but I heard a story from another village on the A19 about a taxi being provided in essence purely to get a child from one side of the A19 to the other to catch a school bus. Makes you think doesn't it?
Don't you love the footbridge suggestions! Classic.
Mullarkian
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5:04pm Thu 22 Nov 12
As for there being a corner in Deighton all I remember is a gradual bend on the approach to it and another one leaving it.
The A19 was there long before a developer stuck loads of houses there, it was just a pub & a few farm dwellings.
When the houses were built was the time to do something about safe access, but that would have meant 'planning', & there is precious little of that about these days.
jumbojet
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7:24pm Thu 22 Nov 12
ayork
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7:37pm Thu 22 Nov 12
BioLogic wrote:Come on of course a footbridge across the road or an underpass would not work in that area!
ayork wrote:So what you need is a footbridge across the road or an underpass, not a 40mph speed limit!
Unless you've ever lived in Deighton you can't really comment or understand it. When I got off the bus and was crossing the road the traffic from Selby going past at 60mph is dangerous, it's poorly lit and drivers can not see the pedestrian crossing until its to late to slow down so if there is anyone crossing the risk is high. If it was a straight bit of road I could understand some of the comments on here but from the Selby direction the corner does make it dangerous as they do not see/expect people to be crossing.
It's a major trunk road linking two towns that has very high traffic flows at peak times. a 40mph limit there would cause delays as there is a 40mph limit further down the road for Escrick.
If you can't cross the road safely, don't cross the road.
The only alternative to not crossing the road is to get a car and drive and then all I will be doing is making the congestion and pollution in York even worse.
jumbojet
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7:51pm Thu 22 Nov 12
yorkguy
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8:12pm Thu 22 Nov 12
I f this was a trunk road like the A64 then it would be very unlikely to get even a 50mph limit, for example West and East heslerton on the A64 near Scarborough have very similar problems but due to the A64 been trunk they can't even get a 50mph limit and 2 people have been killed crossing there in recent years!
The A19 will never get dualled now and will continue to be butchered by speed limits and traffic calming to try and divert long distance traffic away from the route!
Ocifer Dibble
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1:56pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Objecting to any speed limit changes in a representation to the council, North Yorkshire Police said speed had not been a factor in any of the ten recorded “injury accidents” in the area over the last three years.
The force said its data showed there was “no issue” with speed and safety problems were more associated with traffic volumes, but a 50mph limit would “achieve nothing tangible” and could even make the road less safe.
BioLogic says...
9:54am Thu 22 Nov 12
The A19 is a major Trunk Road and already suffers from major traffic issues, so reducing the speed limit here, just before Escrick, when it would be more appropriate to duel it and create pedestrian access walk ways is more likely.
Reducing the speed limit to 40 is also going to have very little impact on the risk of a fatality should there be a collision with a pedestrian.
So Coun Barton is rather foolish to suggest spending money on lighting and rumble strips that may not be viable or legal!