50mph speed limit to be introduced on the A19 at Deighton

TRANSPORT bosses are set to introduce a new 50mph speed limit on a busy road near York – despite neither residents nor police wanting it.

Deighton villagers have called for the stretch of the A19 which runs through their community – currently a 60mph zone – to be reduced to 40mph, claiming it is the only way to prevent future accidents.

But City of York Council’s cabinet member for transport issues, Coun Dave Merrett, will be asked on Monday to agree a compromise solution which would see the section of the route become a 50mph zone instead – although North Yorkshire Police say the existing speed limit should not be lowered at all.

The 40mph campaign, including a petition signed by almost every Deighton resident, intensified following the April death of 18-year-old Rosie Jean Missett, of Leeds, who was hit by a vehicle near the White Swan pub shortly after getting off a bus.

However, the council said the road did not meet Government guidelines for a 40mph limit and so proposed a 50mph limit instead.

A report by traffic engineer Philip Irwin said cutting the limit to 40mph “would not have the desired effect in slowing traffic”, and although the proposed scheme was “not ideal”, street lighting and work on the road surface could slow traffic down.

The cost is expected to be £30,000, with another possibility being a 40mph limit on the stretch of road between the village signs at either end of Deighton, possibly with 50mph “buffer zones” either side.

Objecting to any speed limit changes in a representation to the council, North Yorkshire Police said speed had not been a factor in any of the ten recorded “injury accidents” in the area over the last three years.

The force said its data showed there was “no issue” with speed and safety problems were more associated with traffic volumes, but a 50mph limit would “achieve nothing tangible” and could even make the road less safe.

Deighton residents said in their objections to the proposed 50mph limit that “common sense” should take priority over Government guidelines, adding: “What we are asking for is that our basic safety needs be treated like all other traffic-challenged communities in and around York – most, if not all, enjoy the 40mph protection we are denied.”

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10:51am Sat 17 Nov 12

Sawday2 says...

Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road.
Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road. Sawday2

11:09am Sat 17 Nov 12

Mr Udigawa says...

Sawday2 wrote:
Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road.
Don't make me laugh, if you can't stick to a speed limit without losing attention you really shouldn't be on the road.How would you feel if you had a son or daughter who needed to cross this road on a daily basis?
It should have been reduced to 40 between the village signs as suggested.
[quote][p][bold]Sawday2[/bold] wrote: Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road.[/p][/quote]Don't make me laugh, if you can't stick to a speed limit without losing attention you really shouldn't be on the road.How would you feel if you had a son or daughter who needed to cross this road on a daily basis? It should have been reduced to 40 between the village signs as suggested. Mr Udigawa

12:03pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Stevie D says...

There's no justification for reducing the speed limit on this road. Write to your councillors and insist that it is vetoed!
There's no justification for reducing the speed limit on this road. Write to your councillors and insist that it is vetoed! Stevie D

12:47pm Sat 17 Nov 12

bob the builder says...

Install a pedestrian crossing with lights and cameras, that's the safer way to cross.
Install a pedestrian crossing with lights and cameras, that's the safer way to cross. bob the builder

1:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12

York1900 says...

well it will not make any difference as most drivers do not bother with speed limits once out of town and at night
well it will not make any difference as most drivers do not bother with speed limits once out of town and at night York1900

3:26pm Sat 17 Nov 12

roskoboskovic says...

clear open road with good visibility.no reason to alter anything and reducing it from 60 to 50 is a waste of time.unfortunately accidents happen but you can t go putting crossing points everywhere.
clear open road with good visibility.no reason to alter anything and reducing it from 60 to 50 is a waste of time.unfortunately accidents happen but you can t go putting crossing points everywhere. roskoboskovic

3:42pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Sawday2 says...

Mr Udigawa wrote:
Sawday2 wrote:
Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road.
Don't make me laugh, if you can't stick to a speed limit without losing attention you really shouldn't be on the road.How would you feel if you had a son or daughter who needed to cross this road on a daily basis?
It should have been reduced to 40 between the village signs as suggested.
Did you not read my first sentence.

Try reading the rest. Sticking to a speed limit is a lot easier when it doesn't change every hundred yards or so. Driven along the A1079 recently?
[quote][p][bold]Mr Udigawa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sawday2[/bold] wrote: Being hit at 50 is much the same as being hit at 40. What is it with these people? Roads are clearly marked with curbs, white lines, signs etc. They are primarily for cars, or rather people travelling in cars. Constantly changing speed limits creates problems and reduces safety as drivers' attention is on their speedometer and trying to remember what the current limit is on their bit of road, rather than keeping a look out for obstacles on the road.[/p][/quote]Don't make me laugh, if you can't stick to a speed limit without losing attention you really shouldn't be on the road.How would you feel if you had a son or daughter who needed to cross this road on a daily basis? It should have been reduced to 40 between the village signs as suggested.[/p][/quote]Did you not read my first sentence. Try reading the rest. Sticking to a speed limit is a lot easier when it doesn't change every hundred yards or so. Driven along the A1079 recently? Sawday2

5:17pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Mr Udigawa says...

Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test.
To be fair though I am making an assumption.
Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test. To be fair though I am making an assumption. Mr Udigawa

6:44pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Sawday2 says...

Mr Udigawa wrote:
Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test.
To be fair though I am making an assumption.
Go buy a red flag.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Udigawa[/bold] wrote: Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test. To be fair though I am making an assumption.[/p][/quote]Go buy a red flag. Sawday2

8:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Tom6187 says...

The current speed limits all over York aren't enforced so go ahead and drop it to 50, people will just carry on ignoring the laws of the road, driving too fast and bullying the people who do stick to the speed limits by tailgating them. There's no police presence due to cut backs so carry on as you like.
The current speed limits all over York aren't enforced so go ahead and drop it to 50, people will just carry on ignoring the laws of the road, driving too fast and bullying the people who do stick to the speed limits by tailgating them. There's no police presence due to cut backs so carry on as you like. Tom6187

11:04am Sun 18 Nov 12

Mr Udigawa says...

Sawday2 wrote:
Mr Udigawa wrote:
Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test.
To be fair though I am making an assumption.
Go buy a red flag.
You just stick to trying to concentrate on those confusing signs, and see if you can adjust your speed accordingly whilst also remaining aware of what's going on around you. It's difficult, but once you've mastered the above skills you should be ready for your first trip out onto a real road.
Until then I'd just stick to the PS3.
[quote][p][bold]Sawday2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Udigawa[/bold] wrote: Seriously if you can't drive in changeable conditions it's a miracle you passed your test. To be fair though I am making an assumption.[/p][/quote]Go buy a red flag.[/p][/quote]You just stick to trying to concentrate on those confusing signs, and see if you can adjust your speed accordingly whilst also remaining aware of what's going on around you. It's difficult, but once you've mastered the above skills you should be ready for your first trip out onto a real road. Until then I'd just stick to the PS3. Mr Udigawa

4:20pm Sun 18 Nov 12

MadRob360 says...

i get sick of this ' reduce the speed limit' attitude of some idiots. It tends to be the minority that speed and im sorry but would you take a chance on crossing a road as busy as the A19? if people cant wait until it is clear to safely cross then they too shouldnt be on said road its not just about cars. Halfwits.
i get sick of this ' reduce the speed limit' attitude of some idiots. It tends to be the minority that speed and im sorry but would you take a chance on crossing a road as busy as the A19? if people cant wait until it is clear to safely cross then they too shouldnt be on said road its not just about cars. Halfwits. MadRob360

1:47am Mon 19 Nov 12

dweezil says...

Speed limits or not, MOST drivers, can not read the road and its prevailing conditions. Pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, others car users, are ALL in danger until we all follow the same path. No "safety" measures other than the correct training and awareness will prove effective. Wherever.
Speed limits or not, MOST drivers, can not read the road and its prevailing conditions. Pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, others car users, are ALL in danger until we all follow the same path. No "safety" measures other than the correct training and awareness will prove effective. Wherever. dweezil

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