Julia Mulligan elected as PCC (From York Press)
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Julia Mulligan elected as York and North Yorkshire's Police and Crime Commissioner
9:40am Saturday 17th November 2012 in News
By Jennifer Bell, jennifer.bell@thepress.co.uk
YORK and North Yorkshire’s first elected police boss admits she must work hard to win round the apathetic public who shunned her election in huge numbers.
Conservative Julia Mulligan beat Ruth Potter to become the county’s police and crime commissioner, but turnout was only 14.32 per cent and Mrs Mulligan won the support of only one in 13 eligible voters.
Similar turnouts nationwide meant the polls were the worst-attended in British history and Mrs Mulligan acknowledged there was “lot to be done” to win the public’s confidence.
Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper claimed voters were not given enough information and called the elections “a complete shambles”, while The Electoral Reform Society branded the Government’s handling of the elections a “comedy of errors” and confirmed it would run an inquiry into the low turnout.
The Public and Commercial Services union said the turnouts should sound the “death knell” for Tory-led calls for thresholds in trade union ballots.
Defeated Labour candidate Ruth Potter said the turnout reflected a lack of public enthusiasm for the new roles. She said: “This is obviously a very disappointing turnout to say it’s the flagship policy of the Government.
“I can understand the frustration of people who are saying the Government didn’t tell them enough about it. I think from the voting it is obvious that people do not want a police and crime commissioner.”
Mrs Mulligan said she was “delighted” that so many people in North Yorkshire voted for her, and said she would make significant changes when she takes up her new post next week.
They will include addressing the uncertainty over the position of the Chief Constable and the future of the force’s Newby Wiske headquarters.
Mrs Mulligan insisted she and other new commissioners would have a mandate because they would “replace the police authorities that weren’t directly elected at all”.
Mrs Mulligan won 54 per cent of the vote in York and North Yorkshire, with 47,885 votes. Coun Potter won 38.74 per cent, with 34,328 votes. There were 6,406 spoiled papers. There were only two candidates.
Of North Yorkshire’s 14.32 per cent turnout, York saw the lowest turnout at 12.8 percent, whilst Ryedale saw the highest at 16.25 per cent. Selby recorded a 14 per cent turnout.
Temporary Chief Constable Tim Madgwick said he looked forward to working with Mrs Mulligan, and confirmed he would be “throwing my hat into the ring” to become the permanent Chief Constable.
| How the votes were cast (with percentage turnout) | ||
| Julia Mulligan | Ruth Potter | |
| Craven (15.9%) | 4,169 | 2,512 |
| Harrogate (14.91) | 10,822 | 5,711 |
| Hambleton (16.02) | 6,962 | 3,478 |
| Richmondshire (13.91) | 3,198 | 1,442 |
| Ryedale (16.25) | 4,291 | 2,227 |
| Scarbrough (13.26) | 6,190 | 4,580 |
| Selby (14.00) | 4,760 | 4,032 |
| York (12.80) | 7,498 | 10,346 |
| TOTAL | 47,885 | 34,328 |
Comments(42)
shelly-york
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10:07am Sat 17 Nov 12
Theendoftheworld
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10:36am Sat 17 Nov 12
When unions have voted for industrial action, historically Tory ministers have constantly stated that less than 40% support was not democratic. How can they reconcile these contradictory statements?
Funnyian
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10:50am Sat 17 Nov 12
No forget it let the police run the police, keep politics out of it!!!!
RingoStarr
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11:06am Sat 17 Nov 12
MEOW!
WTHAWG
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11:24am Sat 17 Nov 12
Some politicians have claimed that the PCCs will be non-partisan. Ruth Potter's leaflet proved this false. It did not invite me to vote for her. It asked me to "Vote Labour on November 15th".
I did not vote - as a protest. I WOULD vote in a referendum on whether or not I wanted PCCs.
The approach taken by the comedian Beppo Grillo in Sicily offers more hope for democracy than forcing us to vote paid, partisan amateurs into professional organisations.
rockin33
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11:27am Sat 17 Nov 12
I therefore determined to either waste my vote or spoil the paper, I did the latter but forgot to post it so it ended as the former.
I Cannot see what is wrong with the old Police Authorities and certainly do not agree with the election being run on "old" party lines this should be a non-political appointment!
Woody G Mellor
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11:35am Sat 17 Nov 12
Funnyian wrote:I wouldn't call £70,000 a year pocket money.
What a complete waste of time and our money, two board housewife’s battling to earn some pocket money to tell our wonderful police force how to do their job’s . What experience has either one with dealing with the front line policing answer NONE why didn’t I vote? No one knows what this job is about no information to let us tax payers know what we are spending our money on.
No forget it let the police run the police, keep politics out of it!!!!
old_selebian
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11:55am Sat 17 Nov 12
rockin33 wrote:Can you name anyone who was on the old Police Authority?
We received NO information on either candidate, presumably because we reside in the very perimeter of the Selby district, I looked up the prospective candidates on the internet and was less than impressed at the information as it was hardly enough to make an informed decision.
I therefore determined to either waste my vote or spoil the paper, I did the latter but forgot to post it so it ended as the former.
I Cannot see what is wrong with the old Police Authorities and certainly do not agree with the election being run on "old" party lines this should be a non-political appointment!
No, thought not..
At least you have a say now in how North Yorkshire is policed
harrygilmore
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12:08pm Sat 17 Nov 12
bob the builder
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12:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12
York1900
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12:33pm Sat 17 Nov 12
old_selebian wrote:I can
rockin33 wrote:Can you name anyone who was on the old Police Authority?
We received NO information on either candidate, presumably because we reside in the very perimeter of the Selby district, I looked up the prospective candidates on the internet and was less than impressed at the information as it was hardly enough to make an informed decision.
I therefore determined to either waste my vote or spoil the paper, I did the latter but forgot to post it so it ended as the former.
I Cannot see what is wrong with the old Police Authorities and certainly do not agree with the election being run on "old" party lines this should be a non-political appointment!
No, thought not..
At least you have a say now in how North Yorkshire is policed
Jane Margaret Kenyon
York1900
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12:43pm Sat 17 Nov 12
THE RESULT IS THAT No 10 WILL MAKE NORTH YORKSHIRE POLICE DANCE TO WHAT EVER No 10 WANTS
and any thing the people of North Yorkshire want the PCC to do will need to come from Tory suporters and councils
So we do not have a say as the Tories have tide us up in a system were there is no say because the PCC or the PCP will not go against the Tory government
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gjh
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12:47pm Sat 17 Nov 12
How can this be? This does not add to 100%. By my calculation Mrs Mulligan won 58.25 per cent of the vote and Coun Potter won 41.75. Spoilt papers do not count.
old_geezer
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1:36pm Sat 17 Nov 12
York1900
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3:11pm Sat 17 Nov 12
gjh wrote:Spoilt papers do count in the total of people who turned up to vote this is why the declared % share is lower for each candidate
"Mrs Mulligan won 54 per cent of the vote in York and North Yorkshire, with 47,885 votes. Coun Potter won 38.74 per cent, with 34,328 votes. There were 6,406 spoiled papers. There were only two candidates."
How can this be? This does not add to 100%. By my calculation Mrs Mulligan won 58.25 per cent of the vote and Coun Potter won 41.75. Spoilt papers do not count.
roskoboskovic
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3:20pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Gyspsy Power
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3:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12
“I can understand the frustration of people who are saying the Government didn’t tell them enough about it. I think from the voting it is obvious that people do not want a police and crime commissioner.”
Well Ruth, the fact is that the turnout was so low because people dont trusl Labour or Tory. Choosing one of the numpties from these two parties to run our police is like asking who out of Jimmy Saville or Gary Glitter you want to look after your kids. Ruth said its obvious people dont want a police and crime commissioner, yet drained public resources running for the position. Idiotic woman.
R'Marcus
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3:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Mrs. Mulligan was more interested about rural crime. Here it is. Stop farmers from giving red diesel to friends and relatives at a very knock-time price. Stop farmers from blocking our main roads by their vehicles which do have excise discs.
R'Marcus
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3:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Mrs. Mulligan was more interested about rural crime. Here it is. Stop farmers from giving red diesel to friends and relatives at a very knock-time price. Stop farmers from blocking our main roads by their vehicles which do have excise discs.
York1900
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3:40pm Sat 17 Nov 12
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Imposter
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3:49pm Sat 17 Nov 12
spottycow
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4:53pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Maltonian
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5:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12
RooBeck
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6:20pm Sat 17 Nov 12
N.F.S.
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6:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12
gmc_1963
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6:40pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Jazzper
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6:56pm Sat 17 Nov 12
gmc_1963 wrote:How do you get rid of her?
What percentage of the electorate wanted this woman in this job ?
yorkshirelad
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8:45pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Leave policing to police officers with democratic accountability via properly elected local councils.
I wonder what the age profile of the people who voted was. This is not democracy.
piaggio1
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10:53pm Sat 17 Nov 12
Caecilius
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9:16am Sun 18 Nov 12
We understand very well. Mrs Mulligan can say what she likes: she has no mandate whatsoever. Nobody in North Yorkshire was ever polled to see whether or not they were content to retain the existing Police Authorities. Everybody in North Yorkshire was polled to establish whether they wanted a Tory or a Labour Police & Crime Commissioner, and 85% of them have sent the message that they don't want a P&CC at all.
PKH
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12:18pm Sun 18 Nov 12
R'Marcus wrote:How can anyone canvas the WHOLE of North Yorkshire it was a physical impossibility, which is why the whole election was a Tory farce. David Cameron wanted them as he knew all Police force with large rural areas would most likely return a Tory PCC and therefore his party would be in 'control' of the majority of forces, which is what has happened.
Neither Mrs. Mulligan or Mrs. Potter bothered to canvess the villages around York.
Mrs. Mulligan was more interested about rural crime. Here it is. Stop farmers from giving red diesel to friends and relatives at a very knock-time price. Stop farmers from blocking our main roads by their vehicles which do have excise discs.
ReginaldBiscuit
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12:19pm Sun 18 Nov 12
Caecilius wrote:Interesting but true. Sham democracy in so many ways.
The public was NOT apathetic. It sent a clear message that it does not want political commissars like Mrs Mulligan put in to exercise control over policing. If you want proof of that (and I appreciate that Mrs Mulligan and her political masters don't), consider that, nationally, no fewer than ten times the normal proportion of ballot papers were deliberately spoiled by people who took the trouble to go to the polls and register their opposition to this scheme that Cameron is imposing on us. It's a perfect example of British sham democracy in action: the public is presented with no meaningful choice and allowed no real opportunity to influence what happens, and then, when we decline to play ball, our self-serving political clique patronisingly tell us it's because we're "apathetic" or, poor, silly little ordinary people that we are, we just haven't managed to get our simple little heads around the issues.
We understand very well. Mrs Mulligan can say what she likes: she has no mandate whatsoever. Nobody in North Yorkshire was ever polled to see whether or not they were content to retain the existing Police Authorities. Everybody in North Yorkshire was polled to establish whether they wanted a Tory or a Labour Police & Crime Commissioner, and 85% of them have sent the message that they don't want a P&CC at all.
The salaried P&CC role isn't needed and is a waste of taxpayers money. Politicians are completely out of touch with the public although most of them fail to acknowledge this as one of the reasons why voter turnout is low. They like to blame other factors while many see politicians as contemptible as their friends the bankers.
Our mortgage-flipping expense-falsifying friends from Westminster of whatever party can't run a country let alone regulate themselves. Political interference has made a mess of education, transport, defence, energy in fact, I am struggling to think of any sector which hasn't been damaged by their meddling.
I just wish there was a box 'none of the above' on all election slips. They'd do very well.
bolero
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1:29pm Sun 18 Nov 12
telithowitis
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3:42pm Sun 18 Nov 12
Funnyian wrote:I wonder if Funnyian also thinks the men who stood for these posts were bored house husbands looking for a bit of pin money? Disagreeing with these elections is fine. Feeling that specific candidates don't have good qualifications for a job is fine too. Sexism isn't fine, no more than racism or any other devaluing, stereotyping nonsense.
What a complete waste of time and our money, two board housewife’s battling to earn some pocket money to tell our wonderful police force how to do their job’s . What experience has either one with dealing with the front line policing answer NONE why didn’t I vote? No one knows what this job is about no information to let us tax payers know what we are spending our money on.
No forget it let the police run the police, keep politics out of it!!!!
piaggio1
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9:46pm Sun 18 Nov 12
oh god ! get a life pal .it wer a joke,
dweezil
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1:34am Mon 19 Nov 12
dweezil
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1:35am Mon 19 Nov 12
perplexed
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8:10am Mon 19 Nov 12
bob the builder wrote:This sort of partisan drivel is exactly why politics should be kept out of policing ! It only goes to prove my point.
Better than one of Comrade Alexander's Red Army Fiasco getting in! At least Potter won't have a further £70k a year to spend on haircolouring and make up.
Sillybillies
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2:02pm Mon 19 Nov 12
How predictable and what a laugh.
bolero
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3:46pm Mon 19 Nov 12
Sillybillies wrote:The first comment he's had on this posting; which makes for a delightful change; and he comes out with this senseless drivel.
All the loony left wingers who thought they were being clever by not voting or spoiling their ballot papers have let in a Tory. How predictable and what a laugh.
Sillybillies
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3:41pm Wed 21 Nov 12
old_geezer says...
9:51am Sat 17 Nov 12
However deficient (and many were), they contained a range of local representatives drawn from elected councils and could have been revitalised. Now we have a single partisan person.