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12:33pm Thursday 15th May 2008
HOW many people does it take to change a Belisha beacon - and how long does it take them to do it?
Those questions were being asked today by a York shopkeeper after watching workmen's "Ealing Comedy" efforts to replace zebra crossing poles outside his store in Fishergate, York.
Steve Heyman said that six week's work by three different groups of contractors had so far resulted in two poles standing next to each other on both sides of the road, with only one of the four orange flashing globes actually lighting up.
Steve, proprietor of Alligator wholefoods store, said that City of York Council decided to replace a small black and white pole with a larger one that lit up inside, to make it more visible at night.
"First, about six weeks ago, they sent someone to come along and dig a hole for the new pole and put it in, but they didn't have anyone to connect it up to the electricity," he said.
"Then they sent someone along to dig another hole and connect up the pole, but they just went away, leaving a coil of cable in the bottom of the hole.
"Later, someone else came along and connected up the new pole, but it still isn't working, and the new one on the other side of the street still hasn't been connected. So, there is only one working so far - one of the old poles. Meanwhile, they've left a pile of rubble and fencing that obstructs the pavement."
He said that, under the council's plans for improvements to the A19 corridor, which includes Fishergate, the zebra crossing was set to be replaced by a Pelican crossing anyway, which would mean removing the poles and installing traffic lights.
"No wonder our council tax keeps going up," he said. "I pay over £2,000 a year in business rates for my shop, plus over £1,200 a year in council tax for my house.
"It's been like an Ealing Comedy, with various people digging holes and then filling them in again. If I ran my business like this, I would have been bankrupt years ago.
"If they could have appointed one contractor capable of doing the whole job, it could have been finished in a morning."
* Belisha beacons are named after Leslie Hore-Belisha, a Minister of Transport, who introduced them in 1934.
Council says £5,000 crossing scheme will improve safety
CITY of York Council today defended the zebra crossing scheme, which it said was costing about £5,000.
A spokeswoman said the project was a Fishergate ward committee "Local Improvement Scheme" to replace existing poles with illuminated ones to improve the visibility of the crossing at night. Unfortunately, there has been a delay in getting the electricity supply to the new poles, which meant that two sets of poles have been in place for a short time," she said.
"We understand that the electricity supply will be connected this week."
She said there were no definite plans to convert the zebra crossing to a Pelican.
"It was put forward as an idea within the consultation on the Fulford Corridor Scheme, and whilst many liked the idea, questions were raised about what real advantages would be gained from having a Pelican compared to the existing zebra facility.
"A zebra gives more immediate priority to the pedestrian and can be easier for a school crossing patrol to work with, as happens at this site now.
"Therefore, it was agreed to monitor the operation of the zebra in more detail before making a decision about the long- term future of the crossing."
smudge, York says...
12:53pm Thu 15 May 08
Angry and Frustrated, York says...
1:02pm Thu 15 May 08
DonnyDave, Yorkshire says...
1:13pm Thu 15 May 08
andydag, York says...
1:28pm Thu 15 May 08
Paul Hepworth, York says...
1:35pm Thu 15 May 08
petethefeet, York says...
1:53pm Thu 15 May 08
Paul Hepworth wrote:It probably wouldn't say anything! just in-case it infringed their rights to privacy, their human rights, the data protection act, or caused their mothers to kick it to bits thinking it's a paedophile beacon just for talking to them.......:-))
When I was in infant school, (1950's)we once had a road safety talk from the local bobby. This featured a talking belisha beacon with a face and moving lips. Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what! But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....!
SilverSurfer, Surfing says...
2:36pm Thu 15 May 08
It probably wouldn't say anything! just in-case it infringed their rights to privacy, their human rights, the data protection act, or caused their mothers to kick it to bits thinking it's a paedophile beacon just for talking to them.......:-))Todays TOP reply!!
BL, says...
2:36pm Thu 15 May 08
DonnyDave wrote:How about little gates like at railway crossings? :-) I usually don't use the crossing - it's often easier to go across the road before or after it...
This crossing does need something to make it more obvious to motorists. Bright lighting at either side of the road wouldn't go amiss.
Trying 2 B Amicable, York says...
3:09pm Thu 15 May 08
Orange, York says...
3:16pm Thu 15 May 08
tonesview, york says...
3:55pm Thu 15 May 08
DonnyDave wrote:Might as well stick a couple more up then, maybe one of those will
This crossing does need something to make it more obvious to motorists. Bright lighting at either side of the road wouldn't go amiss.
tiger, york says...
5:22pm Thu 15 May 08
the Butler, Cowichan Bay B.C Canada says...
9:28pm Thu 15 May 08
Plaggy Terry, Classic Cnuts says...
9:58pm Thu 15 May 08
Peter, york says...
10:12pm Thu 15 May 08
york_resident, York says...
7:29am Fri 16 May 08
Plaggy Terry wrote:Well said Plaggy. I was just thinking the same myself. Decade or two out springs to mind...lol
Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what! But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....! it would say jeez paul man your looking and getting old dude !! infant school in 1950s LOL
Dave Taylor, Fishergate, York says...
1:55pm Fri 16 May 08
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smudge, York says...
12:52pm Thu 15 May 08
Well done !!