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Zebra crossing left with two sets of beacons

12:33pm Thursday 15th May 2008

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By Mike Laycock »

HOW many people does it take to change a Belisha beacon - and how long does it take them to do it?

Those questions were being asked today by a York shopkeeper after watching workmen's "Ealing Comedy" efforts to replace zebra crossing poles outside his store in Fishergate, York.

Steve Heyman said that six week's work by three different groups of contractors had so far resulted in two poles standing next to each other on both sides of the road, with only one of the four orange flashing globes actually lighting up.

Steve, proprietor of Alligator wholefoods store, said that City of York Council decided to replace a small black and white pole with a larger one that lit up inside, to make it more visible at night.

"First, about six weeks ago, they sent someone to come along and dig a hole for the new pole and put it in, but they didn't have anyone to connect it up to the electricity," he said.

"Then they sent someone along to dig another hole and connect up the pole, but they just went away, leaving a coil of cable in the bottom of the hole.

"Later, someone else came along and connected up the new pole, but it still isn't working, and the new one on the other side of the street still hasn't been connected. So, there is only one working so far - one of the old poles. Meanwhile, they've left a pile of rubble and fencing that obstructs the pavement."

He said that, under the council's plans for improvements to the A19 corridor, which includes Fishergate, the zebra crossing was set to be replaced by a Pelican crossing anyway, which would mean removing the poles and installing traffic lights.

"No wonder our council tax keeps going up," he said. "I pay over £2,000 a year in business rates for my shop, plus over £1,200 a year in council tax for my house.

"It's been like an Ealing Comedy, with various people digging holes and then filling them in again. If I ran my business like this, I would have been bankrupt years ago.

"If they could have appointed one contractor capable of doing the whole job, it could have been finished in a morning."

* Belisha beacons are named after Leslie Hore-Belisha, a Minister of Transport, who introduced them in 1934.


Council says £5,000 crossing scheme will improve safety

CITY of York Council today defended the zebra crossing scheme, which it said was costing about £5,000.

A spokeswoman said the project was a Fishergate ward committee "Local Improvement Scheme" to replace existing poles with illuminated ones to improve the visibility of the crossing at night. Unfortunately, there has been a delay in getting the electricity supply to the new poles, which meant that two sets of poles have been in place for a short time," she said.

"We understand that the electricity supply will be connected this week."

She said there were no definite plans to convert the zebra crossing to a Pelican.

"It was put forward as an idea within the consultation on the Fulford Corridor Scheme, and whilst many liked the idea, questions were raised about what real advantages would be gained from having a Pelican compared to the existing zebra facility.

"A zebra gives more immediate priority to the pedestrian and can be easier for a school crossing patrol to work with, as happens at this site now.

"Therefore, it was agreed to monitor the operation of the zebra in more detail before making a decision about the long- term future of the crossing."

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smudge, York says...
12:52pm Thu 15 May 08

Nice bit of free advertising Steve.


Well done !!

smudge, York says...
12:53pm Thu 15 May 08

Nice bit of free advertising Steve.


Well done !!!

Angry and Frustrated, York says...
1:02pm Thu 15 May 08

Another sad example of the incompetence of this current council - coupled with the alleged breaches of the data protection legislation caused by cameras taking pictures of nwely-weds signing the register, Mr Heyman is absolutely correct - no wonder our council tax is going up and the council is pleading poverty!

DonnyDave, Yorkshire says...
1:13pm Thu 15 May 08

This crossing does need something to make it more obvious to motorists. Bright lighting at either side of the road wouldn't go amiss.

andydag, York says...
1:28pm Thu 15 May 08

Well done Steve for highlighting this farce - Ive been emailing council depts for weeks asking why it is taking so long to do a simple job. If the council had arranged for an electrician to be on the same day they could have disconnected the old one and stuck the new one in the same hole in a couple of hours!
Lets see if Greens and Labour can achieve a more efficient council than the Lib Dems have managed.

Paul Hepworth, York says...
1:35pm Thu 15 May 08

When I was in infant school, (1950's)we once had a road safety talk from the local bobby. This featured a talking belisha beacon with a face and moving lips.
Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what!
But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....!

petethefeet, York says...
1:53pm Thu 15 May 08

Paul Hepworth wrote:
When I was in infant school, (1950's)we once had a road safety talk from the local bobby. This featured a talking belisha beacon with a face and moving lips. Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what! But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....!
It probably wouldn't say anything! just in-case it infringed their rights to privacy, their human rights, the data protection act, or caused their mothers to kick it to bits thinking it's a paedophile beacon just for talking to them.......:-))

SilverSurfer, Surfing says...
2:36pm Thu 15 May 08

It probably wouldn't say anything! just in-case it infringed their rights to privacy, their human rights, the data protection act, or caused their mothers to kick it to bits thinking it's a paedophile beacon just for talking to them.......:-))
Todays TOP reply!!

BL, says...
2:36pm Thu 15 May 08

DonnyDave wrote:
This crossing does need something to make it more obvious to motorists. Bright lighting at either side of the road wouldn't go amiss.
How about little gates like at railway crossings? :-) I usually don't use the crossing - it's often easier to go across the road before or after it...

Trying 2 B Amicable, York says...
3:09pm Thu 15 May 08

Look's to me like there is 5 belisha beacon's there? and one has a face and moving lips, best clean my contact lenses!

Orange, York says...
3:16pm Thu 15 May 08

Talking beacons!
i bet most of them have more interseting news than the york press,

in fact i was talking to one the other day and it had a lot to say for itself i had to be rude in the end to get away from it. When i pass it now it gives me suggestive looks bloody pervy beacon if its not carefull i will sue for harasment.

tonesview, york says...
3:55pm Thu 15 May 08

DonnyDave wrote:
This crossing does need something to make it more obvious to motorists. Bright lighting at either side of the road wouldn't go amiss.
Might as well stick a couple more up then, maybe one of those will
light up.

tiger, york says...
5:22pm Thu 15 May 08

THIS IS JUST TYPICAL OF CITY of York Council for you......;mad: I cannot help but be reminded of the Saturday Night Live sketch where Sean Connery’s impersonator says “It’s york council and it’s crap!” lol tut tut tut what dimwits

the Butler, Cowichan Bay B.C Canada says...
9:28pm Thu 15 May 08

What do they pay the city engineer for?
The one they have must be out on holiday,Or looking for a tradesman...!

Plaggy Terry, Classic Cnuts says...
9:58pm Thu 15 May 08

Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what!
But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....!

it would say jeez paul man your looking and getting old dude !! infant school in 1950s LOL

Peter, york says...
10:12pm Thu 15 May 08

Yet again CYC show they would be incapable of organising a booze up in a brewery

york_resident, York says...
7:29am Fri 16 May 08

Plaggy Terry wrote:
Our PC asked it who in the Hall owned a bicycle. To my astonishment it replied with a list of pupil's names, including mine. Clever or what! But what would the beacon say today, if it could still talk? Hmmmm....! it would say jeez paul man your looking and getting old dude !! infant school in 1950s LOL
Well said Plaggy. I was just thinking the same myself. Decade or two out springs to mind...lol

Dave Taylor, Fishergate, York says...
1:55pm Fri 16 May 08

While the scheme is a good idea, the execution of it has been a farce.

It's taken weeks, as Steve points out. A cable left in the hole by one of the teams of clueless workmen went missing and now the hole is full of takeaway wrappings.

I rang the contractors to ask them to pull their finger out. The conversation went like this...

I said, "Can you complete this work to replace the Belisha beacons in Fishergate?"

"What is it?" she said.

"Belisha beacon," I replied.

"What's that?"

"A Belisha beacon - it's the flashing beacon on a zebra crossing."

!

She promised to get someone to call me back. No-one did.

And the hole in the ground is still there.

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Steve Heyman, of the Alligator Shop, with the duplicate sets of Belisha beacons outside his shop in Fishergate, York Steve Heyman, of the Alligator Shop, with the duplicate sets of Belisha beacons outside his shop in Fishergate, York

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