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10:07am Monday 12th May 2008
A church in York is putting its money where its mouth is - by rejecting lottery funding for its rebuilding work.
St Michael le Belfrey, next to York Minster, is raising money for a major restoration of its west front. But the church council has decided not to seek money from the Heritage Lottery Fund, because the fund promotes gambling.
The church needs about £500,000 and says it is relying on its congregation to raise the money, without the need for lottery grants.
The Rev Roger Simpson, vicar of St Michael's, said: "The lottery itself is basically wrong, so to accept money from something that is in itself wrong would be to support something we do not believe in. Such funding would compromise the consistency of our mission and values."
Church treasurer Paul Millard said it had been indicated they could have received up to half the money they need for the restoration, due to the nature of the project and the building.
St Michael's is a listed building and was the last church built in York before the reformation. Guy Fawkes was baptised there in 1570. The church almost closed in the early 1970s, but has enjoyed a massive revival and now has a congregation of about 800.
The lottery issue was debated at a recent Parochial Church Council meeting, and an overwhelming majority voted against going for funding.
Mr Simpson said: "We had a lively debate. We looked at various arguments in favour of receiving lottery funding and against it."
He said it had been argued lottery funding would open doors to other funding; that lottery money was not the only Government money tainted by moral concerns; and that while church members should pay for ministry, it was acceptable to use Government money for the buildings.
But the arguments against outweighed those in favour. He said: "The thing that convinced me was the question: how can we accept money from the lottery fund when we do not agree with gambling?"
Mr Millard said: "We are relying upon God and the congregation and the people of York, as we are looking at up to £500,000 for this project. We are still waiting on the final amount it will cost us. There are hints it could be less than £500,000, which is encouraging. There will be a committee to discuss how we start the process of fundraising and the church will have to start giving."
The church is looking to raise more than it needs for the west front restoration, as it also wants to aid projects abroad, possibly in Bethlehem or Brazil.
simon, down.south says...
8:10pm Mon 12 May 08
Cynic, York says...
7:19pm Mon 12 May 08
Cruddass is a muppett wrote:There's no such thing! They might take stances on something like this to try to demonstrate that they are holier-than-thou, but the fact remains that the supposedly caring Church of England has no policies on dealing with bullying and disability discrimination and generally tries to ignore such issues when they arise, and there are other issues along the same lines.
At last, a non hypocritical church.
Brown, York says...
6:43pm Mon 12 May 08
Wangy, York says...
6:39pm Mon 12 May 08
Shame Sentamu doesn't have the same high principles.
Cruddass is a muppett, says...
6:24pm Mon 12 May 08
martin, York says...
6:12pm Mon 12 May 08
bjc, York says...
5:37pm Mon 12 May 08
Wangy, York says...
5:05pm Mon 12 May 08
lels wrote:Maybe you should get out your calculator, work out the odds, then stop because you've been a foolish idiot for the past god-knows how many years. You've literally more chance of putting a pound on "even" on a roulette table, then spinning the wheel until your money doubles so many times you've got a million.
If I thought that my lottery money was going to such an out-dated institution as the church I would stop doing the lottery.
Wangy, York says...
5:02pm Mon 12 May 08
the Butler, Cowichan Bay B.C Canada says...
4:50pm Mon 12 May 08
Jef, Yorkshire says...
3:55pm Mon 12 May 08
loxten wrote:But it would be hypocritical of them to accept the money when they preach that gambling is wrong. If they feel strongly enough about it to lose out on the money then that is their choice. It is not a choice that will hurt anyone.
Sorry - but this man is not living in the real world. If the money is good enough for York Minster - do St Mike's think they are mroe special... Naivety as its most pronounced...!!
Tom, York says...
3:52pm Mon 12 May 08
Jef wrote:Correct. It would however be exceedingly ironic if a large block of masonry fell off and squashed him.
akuma wrote: LOL How ironic that a simple joke can sum up reality!Its not really ironic.
loxten, York says...
3:43pm Mon 12 May 08
Jef, Yorkshire says...
2:20pm Mon 12 May 08
lels wrote:Well it does sometimes go to churches. This one happened to decline the offer. I guess no more lottery for you then!
If I thought that my lottery money was going to such an out-dated institution as the church I would stop doing the lottery.
AdmiralN, York Centre says...
1:21pm Mon 12 May 08
lels, york says...
1:00pm Mon 12 May 08
Brown, York says...
12:34pm Mon 12 May 08
Jef, Yorkshire says...
12:23pm Mon 12 May 08
Jef, Yorkshire says...
12:21pm Mon 12 May 08
akuma wrote:Its not really ironic.
LOL How ironic that a simple joke can sum up reality!
akuma, everywhere says...
10:58am Mon 12 May 08
Ged, says...
10:21am Mon 12 May 08
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bernard briggs, says...
11:19pm Tue 13 May 08