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Don’t blame the bus companies of today (From York Press)
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Don’t blame the bus companies of today
11:37am Thursday 18th October 2012 in Letters By Readers' letters
FIRST bus has come under a lot of flak recently.
Perhaps a brief look into history as to how the current situation came about is justified.
Prior to 1979, most of the country’s buses were owned and controlled by councils and PTEs.
These were run on a not-for-profit basis but as a service.
Then came Margaret Thatcher. Not-for-profit was an anathema to the Tories and the bus services were deregulated and privatised.
So buses were then run as a money-making business rather than a service.
Fares went up and services decreased. But no matter, a few people and shareholders became well off on the backs of the fare-paying passengers.
So do not blame First Bus for doing exactly what the Tories gave them licence to do. Greed is the raison d’étre and it suits the Tories.
It does have to be said at this point that we do have local operators who do at least try to provide a service for passengers.
Not all are greedy. But First have every right to put profit before service.
G Brian Ledger, Horseman Close, Copmanthorpe, York.
• IN RESPONSE to Josh Allen (Letters, October 10), I am sure that all former candidates, of any party, are fully aware of the powers that City of York Council hold over buses, as they are quite thin on the ground.
While the council has some degree of say where they would like buses to go, they have no control whatsoever over the timetables and ticket prices.
Indeed, had Mr Allen’s party bothered to do anything about this in the previous administration, we would not be seeing yet more problems due to the Liberals’ hands-off policies.
Owain Gardner, Forelands Crescent, Fulford.
• J NICHOLLS was spot on with the comments about the withdrawal of service 12 to Haxby (Letters, October 15).
However, the 13 which replaced it is not even an hourly service as for large parts of the day it has gaps of between 50 to 70 minutes and even a 90-minute gap in early evening.
First has given Haxby an unusable service and risks being in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act in calling it an hourly service.
I would also like to see where exactly the evening/Sunday service terminates.
Is it as the timetable says at the station or is a more convenient (for First) Station Rise?
If the latter is correct, then once again they risk breaching Trade Descriptions.
Ian Foster, Haxby, York.
Comments(9)
goatman
says...
1:32pm Thu 18 Oct 12
I've just started using the 07:00 number thirteen service, in eight days there has already been a five minute variance in the time the bus turns up. If you publish a bus leaving at 07:00, make sure IT LEAVES at 07:00!!
Magicman!
says...
4:19am Fri 19 Oct 12
Essentially, the North and the South of york have lost out in favour of some limited improvements to the East and the West (but primarily the west) of the city.
... and we STILL have the situation in the evenings where if you're going from anywhere on Huntington Road from Sessions stop to the Living Hope Church stop, you have both the 5 AND the 13 serve the stops at roughly 57 minutes past the hour, one bus behind the other, and then no servcie for another 59 minutes!
Junior123
says...
9:10am Fri 19 Oct 12
The bus on a morning is too early, why did they change it?
Last year when it left West Nooks at 7.20, it was great as everyone that needed to be in town for 8am could get it. This year First decided to move it to leave West Nooks at 7.10, Okay only 10 mins early so I still could get it but now 7am, they are having a laugh.
The same is coming home, like a lot of people in York I finish work at about 5pm, can I get the no 13 ? NO. The bus is at Rougier St at 4.35 or 5.50.
It is a sorry state of affairs when even the bus drivers are telling customers to write/ phone and complain and even agree that Leeds have made a mistake on this occasion .
old_geezer
says...
9:50am Fri 19 Oct 12
stiflersmom
says...
8:29am Sat 20 Oct 12
Magicman!
says...
3:57am Sun 21 Oct 12
Compare this to Stagecoach where they have, in Chesterfield for example, turned a once-per-2-hours route that was under-used and subsidised into a thriving half-hourly service that now requires brand new double deckers to carry all the passengers.
In York, the North and South of the city (primarily the north) have lost out on bus services in favour of improvements to services in the East and West (primarily the west).
old_geezer
says...
8:58am Mon 22 Oct 12
defeated by Chris Green managing the line imaginatively and increasing passenger numbers several fold.
Junior123
says...
12:57pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Stevie D says...
12:58pm Thu 18 Oct 12
Evenings and Sundays, the 13 runs to the station and then changes to a 12 to continue to Woodthorpe and Foxwood, effectively running a through service along the "old" route 12, although First haven't publicised this.