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Reverse the costs (From York Press)
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Reverse the costs
9:39am Monday 8th October 2012 in Letters By Reader's letter
JUST one more comment in the bus versus car debate which I think has not been mentioned yet.
From where I live (between Malton Road and Stockton Lane), a return bus ticket to the city centre at £4 is much more expensive than parking for two hours (£2.40) giving time for shopping, errands and coffee.
Surely these costs should be reversed if we are to be discouraged from taking our cars into York? I also cycle and walk when I can.
Jill Shepherd, Elmpark Vale, York.
Comments(9)
yorkiemum
says...
10:47am Mon 8 Oct 12
CllrPSHealey
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11:01am Mon 8 Oct 12
Cllr Paul S. Healey
mjr119
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11:30am Mon 8 Oct 12
CllrPSHealey wrote:No one in their right mind calculates the cost of something in that way if they already own the asset. Not even HMRC.
Jill, you've only compared 1 of the costs of your trip in the car whereas a bus ticket includes all of the cost to the bus company. A better comparsion would be the cost to rent a car by the hour from CityCarClub, about £8 per hour plus mileage.
Cllr Paul S. Healey
If your argument was correct, then the governement's mileage allowances woudl allow for the cost of fuel, maintenance and hiring a car. Based on the governement's calculations, the writer's journey would have cost £3.60ish. Still cheaper and more convenient than a bus.
I used the bus yesterday to go from Hull Road to Monks Cross, I waited for 15 minutes at a stop after walking five minutes to get there, got a total of four buses and had an old woman cough all over me and for two of us, it cost £7.40 (bought a day rover as I couldn't get a straight answer as to which way would be cheaper from the First phone line.
Undoubtedly, it would have been cheaper, quicker, easier and better for my health.
Ichabod76
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11:35am Mon 8 Oct 12
CllrPSHealey wrote:The cost of running my BMW M3 is about £5.00 per day
Jill, you've only compared 1 of the costs of your trip in the car whereas a bus ticket includes all of the cost to the bus company. A better comparsion would be the cost to rent a car by the hour from CityCarClub, about £8 per hour plus mileage.
Cllr Paul S. Healey
this includes
depreciation
insurance
road licence fund (tax)
maintenance
tyres
and fuel
it goes where i want it to go when i want it to go there and if its late its nobodies fault but my own
so £8 per hour is a bit steep !
How much profit do CityCarClub make per hour ?
gailybobs
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2:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12
gailybobs
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2:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12
mjr119
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2:32pm Mon 8 Oct 12
CllrPSHealey wrote:I've just re-read this and have come to the conclusion that it is one of the worst comparisons I've heard.
Jill, you've only compared 1 of the costs of your trip in the car whereas a bus ticket includes all of the cost to the bus company. A better comparsion would be the cost to rent a car by the hour from CityCarClub, about £8 per hour plus mileage.
Cllr Paul S. Healey
I'm all for Councillors coming on here - but I don't think you should post comments that are this ill thought through.
The whole point of a hire car is that you only pay to use it when you need it. Therefore, the relatively high costs involved are off-set by the fact that you incur no costs when you aren't using the car.
Why would someone hire a car to nip in to town, browse the shops and have a coffee?
The point of the letter is, if you want us to stop using our cars, then the buses should cost us less than it does to use the car.
ZachCohen
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11:39am Wed 10 Oct 12
We have councillors who are sticking their heads in the sand about the issue. Rather than deal with it.
I wouldn't mind paying the money asked by first if the busses were on time and clean. But they are not. A trip to monks cross or des outlet for me. Shame for the independent shops in the city who are struggling financially but getting no help from the council to increase footfall.
pedalling paul says...
10:21am Mon 8 Oct 12