College traffic woe

SINCE the start of the new school term, traffic has queued as far back as St Edward’s Church in Tadcaster Road, and beyond, for about two hours during the morning and evening rush hours.

We are fortunate to live near Knavesmire but unfortunate enough to live en route to York College , therefore we have no choice but to push our way out every morning in order to get to work. Stress levels rise before I have even got there; we work in Acomb and Holgate respectively.

During the school holidays it took ten or 15 minutes to get home; now it takes upwards of 40. It is impossible to turn right out of the lights at the Cross Keys pub after 4pm. If I try to, I find that the traffic is queued across the junction and no provision is made for me to slot in, even though I have right of way.

If we are unfortunate enough to have to join the queue to Askham Bar roundabout in the morning, we are then faced with the situation of trying to access a roundabout that has been flooded with cars from Moor Lane, the drivers of which think it is their right to sit in the yellow hatchings until they can progress, thus preventing anyone else from accessing the roundabout.

The situation is made even worse by the large volume of cars coming from the housing estate that has been built on the former York College of Arts & Technology site.

Surely it is time for City of York Council to put traffic lights on this roundabout and at least in the interim to rethink the yellow hatchings which are wrongly sited and do not protect the exit from Tadcaster Road on to the roundabout. However, the main problem is the huge number of students at the present York College, who are continually pressing the button in order to cross to Tesco. In the 1960s, St Peter’s School was able to install a footbridge so that students could cross the road safely. Why was this option, or an underpass, not considered for the college?

Teresa Turner, Whin Road, Dringhouses , York

 

• I AM forwarding for favour of publication a letter about another raft of transport initiatives that have just been announced to address congestion and pollution - among which are some extra cycling routes.

My point is that unless the higher priorities of safety and security are dealt with first, we will never make the step change necessary to significantly increase cycling into the city. Tinkering at the edges is futile.

Allan Charlesworth, Old Earswick, York

Comments(9)

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
11:55am Tue 25 Sep 12

Putting traffic lights on the roundabout won't make a blind bit of difference.
People will still go on green from Moor Lane and block it up, meaning that when the lights go green from Tadcaster Rd, there will still be no room to enter the roundabout.

inmandres says...
12:02pm Tue 25 Sep 12

You live in Dringhouses and work in Acomb/Holgate and yet you drive to work?!
Why not stroll or cycle over Hob Moor instead? At least then you'll be getting some exercise, reducing your stress levels, saving money and removing at least two vehicles from the jams.

Mr Happy says...
12:21pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Teresa love, you like so many others on here just don't get the fact that there are just TOO MANY CARS for a finite amount of road space in York. You can tinker with traffic lights, remove cycle lanes etc etc etc, but there will STILL be traffic jams. Do what inmandres says and cycle or walk. If you genuinely aren't up to either, use public transport and tell your car driving friends to do likewise. Then we might all actually get to where we want to be without all the stress.

pedalling paul says...
3:28pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Ah but I recall reading frequent comments, that traffic should "be allowed to flow".
When that happens of course, it's the poor souls who are trying to exit side roads that are the losers.
In a wider sense, I can only concur with other commentators. Hobmoor is a pleasant stroll or bike ride. Another option is to car share. Visit carshareyork.com to learn more.

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
5:21pm Tue 25 Sep 12

pedalling paul wrote:
Ah but I recall reading frequent comments, that traffic should "be allowed to flow".
When that happens of course, it's the poor souls who are trying to exit side roads that are the losers.
In a wider sense, I can only concur with other commentators. Hobmoor is a pleasant stroll or bike ride. Another option is to car share. Visit carshareyork.com to learn more.
Traffic would flow if as mentioned earlier, there was a bridge or under pass outside the college, and also the lights at Sim Balk Lane where phased better.

ColdAsChristmas says...
7:01pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Mr Happy: too many cars is a side effect, the big problem is that York's increase in population has outgrown the infrastructure. And the Council / Govt want even more houses?
Tadcaster road suffers from the same problem as Hull road from Grimston Bar to Archbishops. THE BUS LANE and now there is lots of congestion where there was little. (Two lanes into one)
Walking and cycling are all very well but have you seen the weather these last few days and noticed the reduced bus service?
Roundabouts intersecting with major traffic flows are another problem York has failed to deal with.

ZachCohen says...
3:05am Thu 27 Sep 12

I would have got on my bike and been in Acomb/Holgate in 10 minutes from Dringhouses.

Although I agree that the cross hatchings make no sense whatsoever. And the College students dont wait for the Green Man.

Magicman! says...
3:03am Fri 28 Sep 12

When I used to go to the college, back when it was on the old site, the green man took about 4 minutes to come on.

Surely it is time for City of York Council to put traffic lights on this roundabout and at least in the interim to rethink the yellow hatchings which are wrongly sited and do not protect the exit from Tadcaster Road on to the roundabout.

Firstly, putting traffic lights on a roundabout is a big advertisement saying "this roundabout has failed as a means of traffic management, and our council is too skint to actually create a workable solution", and secondly why not instead just fit up yellow box cameras like they have in London? you plonk your car in a yellow box and obstruct others you have to pay £80 to the council... it'd soon have an affect one way or the other: either it'd stop people driving in such a selfish manner to obstruct other people, or it'd bring enough money into the coffers to create a solution for the junction.

Also, the letter writer lives near the Knavesmire and works in Acomb/Holgate, which at the most is a 15 minute cycle ride. Yes, in recent weather taking the car would be more likely - but for such a short distance surely walking or cycling would be preferrable as it then reduces the queues by at least 1 car (or 2 if it's a 'modern family' where every adult has their own car) - and if more people who were only travelling short distances decided to use other means of transport the 1 car here and 1 car there dissappearing off the streets would be taking several hundred off the roads and making travel quicker for those who really, and I mean, really absolutely need to use a motor vehicle for work.

yorkshirelad says...
9:11pm Fri 28 Sep 12

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Mr Happy: too many cars is a side effect, the big problem is that York's increase in population has outgrown the infrastructure. And the Council / Govt want even more houses?
Tadcaster road suffers from the same problem as Hull road from Grimston Bar to Archbishops. THE BUS LANE and now there is lots of congestion where there was little. (Two lanes into one)
Walking and cycling are all very well but have you seen the weather these last few days and noticed the reduced bus service?
Roundabouts intersecting with major traffic flows are another problem York has failed to deal with.
'Walking and Cycling are all very well but have you seen the weather these last few days?'

Wonderful! On it's way to my Dutch friends already - keep 'em coming!

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