Ordinary cyclists

GEOFF ROBB says I represent the “local cycling fraternity”, as if cyclists were some kind of self-serving organised body (Letters, July 31).

All I see are ordinary individuals who ride a bike because it’s practical, healthy and sustainable, and they want to do it safely. Most are probably also car drivers. (By the way, fraternity means brotherhood, but we counted cyclists going past our gates on Hospital Fields Road the other day, and 60 per cent were women).

I represent a local social enterprise which supports cycling in its forms (apart from antisocial ones). I do not represent cyclists as a whole. I do not condone abusive behaviour by cyclists, if that is what happened; but driving inconsiderately, if that is what happened, can also perhaps be seen as abusive behaviour, with worse consequences.

I made no assumptions but simply put forward legitimate questions about some seeming contradictions in the lady’s complaint. This was in the light of judgments she made on cyclists as a whole, and her implication that the two forms of transport do not have equal rights on public roads.

Jim McGurn, Chief Executive, Get Cycling CiC, Hospital Fields Road, York.

• Oh how partisan are some members of the cycling fraternity.

It seems cyclists can do no wrong, and if (on rare occasions) they swear or gesture at other road users, then of course they have been provoked, and are justified. I wonder if riding three abreast on any sort of road is sensible. But then, I am only a car driver, and we all know a car driver’s place is in the wrong.

Mrs P Brown, Goodwood Grove, York.

Comments(3)

Sillybillies says...
1:56pm Thu 2 Aug 12

2 August 2012 Last updated at 11:10
Bradley Wiggins urges cyclist helmet laws after bus death
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Olympic Gold medal winner Bradley Wiggins has called for new laws to make cyclists wear helmets after a man died in a crash near the Olympic Park.
He was asked for his views on the safety of London's roads after the man was hit by an Olympic bus on Wednesday.
It has not been revealed whether the victim was wearing a helmet, but Wiggins said forcing cyclists to take precautions would make the roads safer.
The bus driver was held on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.
A 65-year-old man was later released on bail pending further inquiries.
'Help ourselves'
Wiggins, speaking after winning his Olympic gold medal in Wednesday's time trial, said making it illegal to cycle without a helmet would make the roads safer "because ultimately, if you get knocked off and you ain't got a helmet on, then how can you kind of argue".
He added: " shouldn't be riding along with iPods and phones and things on and should have lights and all those things.
"So I think when there's laws passed for cyclists, then you're protected and you can say, well, I've done everything to be safe."
He added: "It's dangerous and London is a busy city with a lot of traffic. I think we have to help ourselves sometimes.
"I haven't lived in London for 10 to 15 years now and it's got a lot busier since I was riding a bike as a kid round here, and I got knocked off several times.
"But at the end of the day we've all got to co-exist on the roads. Cyclists are not ever going to go away, as much as drivers moan, and as much as cyclists maybe moan about certain drivers they are never going to go away, so there's got to be a bit of give and take."
The fatal crash happened at about 19:45 BST at the junction of Ruckholt Road and East Cross Route, in Hackney.
The 28-year-old cyclist has not yet been identified, but an International Olympic Committee source told the BBC he was not an Olympic competitor.
The crash, involving a bus carrying media workers from the Olympics, happened close to the hockey centre, velodrome and Paralympic tennis arena.
"The police are investigating and our thoughts are with the cyclist's family," Olympic organisers Locog said.
London Mayor Boris Johnson said there were no plans to require cyclists to wear helmets or to provide them for the capital's fleet of hire bikes.
And Lord Moynihan, the head of the British Olympic Association, paid condolences to the family of the cyclist and said he would support any legislation on compulsory helmets.

At long last, a sensible cyclist making intelligent comments, and in view of his achievements in the cycling world dare I say authoritative ones as well?

Buzz Light-year says...
6:58pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Ahem. I repeat.

From the horse's mouth.
Geoff Robb was wrong to say "chief exec of the cycling fraternity" and commentators were wrong to agree.

Sillybillies says...
2:19pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Yers, but you can't blame Geoff Robb, or anyone and that includes me, for thinking that someone calling himself Chief Executive, Get Cycling CiC was someone important in the cycling world.

Then there's this on his website, "Get Cycling is a registered Community Interest Company run by enthusiastic, creative professionals with decades of high-level business experience. We meet a need for new ways of promoting cycling in practical face-to-face situations; through local authorities, regeneration agencies, public health authorities, events companies, community groups, businesses, schools and universities."

It's all **** but few people are likely to realise that, and he's back pedalling (excuse the pun) like hell now.

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