Free insulation

5:50pm Friday 29th June 2012 in Letters By Reader's letter

THE Coalition’s green deal will offer householders or firms a loan to pay for energy-efficient work against their property at a six per cent interest rate.

How many people are expected to take this up in York? About three a week. It is “greenwash” and tokenism.

The moral of the story? It is best to get your free insulation now (before October/November) while it is still free. Phone the Yorkshire Energy Partnership on 01904 554406 or see yorkshireenergypartnership.org.uk/

Coun Christina Funnell, Labour, Heworth, York.

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matroom says...
6:28pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Here here

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ColdAsChristmas says...
8:53pm Sat 30 Jun 12

Another scam and there could be more to come! For example, Labour MP Paul Flynn (Newport) suggested in Parliament that home owners should be forced to have cavity wall insulation, even though this can cause dampness. (The air gap is there for a reason) Another con is that if say you wanted to build a conservatory, you might have to buy a new boiler too! More VAT to the Treasury. Why do we need all this insulation when we are supposed to be acquiring a Mediterranean climate? The truth is that there has been no global warming this century. Our Governments have committed to inefficient and expensive renewable energy while at the same time needing ever more households to accommodate an open door immigration policy. There will not be enough energy to go round. Also I note that the cost of Prince Charles on the nation has increased. The official reason for this apparently is the increased amount of international travel. Not bad for someone preaching about the effects of our carbon footprints.

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Matt_S says...
3:14pm Sun 1 Jul 12

"Why do we need all this insulation when we are supposed to be acquiring a Mediterranean climate?"

According to who? And even if we did acquire a Mediterranean climate, you do realise it still gets cold in the Mediterranean in winter? Helping people save on energy costs is surely a good thing independently of any other debate about climate change.

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smith63 says...
4:40pm Sun 1 Jul 12

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Another scam and there could be more to come! For example, Labour MP Paul Flynn (Newport) suggested in Parliament that home owners should be forced to have cavity wall insulation, even though this can cause dampness. (The air gap is there for a reason) Another con is that if say you wanted to build a conservatory, you might have to buy a new boiler too! More VAT to the Treasury. Why do we need all this insulation when we are supposed to be acquiring a Mediterranean climate? The truth is that there has been no global warming this century. Our Governments have committed to inefficient and expensive renewable energy while at the same time needing ever more households to accommodate an open door immigration policy. There will not be enough energy to go round. Also I note that the cost of Prince Charles on the nation has increased. The official reason for this apparently is the increased amount of international travel. Not bad for someone preaching about the effects of our carbon footprints.
ColdAsChristmas, "There has been no global warming this century"? I'd love to know where you get your facts. Seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 2001: see the US government official data http://www.ncdc.noaa
.gov/oa/climate/glob
alwarming.html#q3

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ColdAsChristmas says...
6:00pm Sun 1 Jul 12

Ages ago Matt, see if you can help Weather man Bill Giles replant his garden with something that will withstand the odd Arctic Blast. (Summer Arctic ice free next year Matt? !!)
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Smith 63, First we are looking at fractions of 1C, secondly the records only represent fairly recent times. Third, the data is corrupt. Why the very long delay in releasing some of the raw data? Uncorrupted springs to mind. The tree ring data from Queens University Belfast a case in point!
2010 was reported as one of the hottest years on record long before the big freeze that saw most of the world above 45 degrees North frozen solid for the last five weeks of the year. But don't let the facts on the ground get in the way. 2009 was way down on the list because the Antarctic blast that froze South America all the way to the Amazon couldn't really be erased as this occurred in July.
Actually I think the insulation is a good thing, not because of any scheduled warming but quite the opposite! BTW, Washington DC has had its hottest June day since 1934. Care to tell the world what happened in 1934?

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ColdAsChristmas says...
11:47pm Sun 1 Jul 12

I should also point out that man made CO2 in the atmosphere represents less than 16 parts per million. How catastrophic is that?
Bring on the debate!

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The Great Buda says...
10:29am Mon 2 Jul 12

Next up from ColdAsChristmas: "Why I believe the earth is flat"

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Matt_S says...
11:54am Mon 2 Jul 12

Spooge wrote:
So making people's homes more energy efficient and protecting Mother Earth from some trace organic gas isn't going to be subsidised by poor Joe F. Taxpayer any more you say? Excellent news.
As I said above, surely it is a good thing to help people cut down on energy costs, regardless of the climate change debate?

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Matt_S says...
11:56am Mon 2 Jul 12

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
I should also point out that man made CO2 in the atmosphere represents less than 16 parts per million. How catastrophic is that?
Bring on the debate!
There's no point in debate. You will simply dismiss anything you disagree with as 'biased', 'corrupt', or part of a massive conspiracy theory.

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Matt_S says...
12:43pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Spooge wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
Spooge wrote:
So making people's homes more energy efficient and protecting Mother Earth from some trace organic gas isn't going to be subsidised by poor Joe F. Taxpayer any more you say? Excellent news.
As I said above, surely it is a good thing to help people cut down on energy costs, regardless of the climate change debate?
Explain how it's a good thing that my tax revenue is being used to help someone to make their home more energy efficient.
Well, living in a cold house is likely to be a health risk, especially for the elderly, both directly (e.g. by increasing risk of hypothermia and heart attacks) and by increasing the chance of mould growth.

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Matt_S says...
2:30pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Spooge wrote:
Okay then. Explain how it's a good thing that my tax revenue is being used to lessen health risks for people.
Because suffering is bad. Poor health causes suffering. As long as taxation is not at such excessive levels that it discourages generation of new wealth, redistributing some wealth will increase the well-being of those who are less well off.

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lis0r says...
4:40pm Mon 2 Jul 12

A little money spent on insulation is better than a lot of money spent on an intensive care unit looking after someone with pneumonia.

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Buzz Light-year says...
6:41pm Mon 2 Jul 12

spooge wrote:
Explain how it's a good thing that my tax revenue is being used

It's not *your* tax revenue, it's *our* tax revenue.

Again, for the billionth time - tax is not a retail model for goods and services.
You don't choose how much is spent on what unless you get a job in the treasury.

Tax is tax.
I don't like it any more than the next guy but it's pay up and shut up or you make a proper stand and refuse all payment.

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ColdAsChristmas says...
6:48pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Buda, the Earth is not flat, neither is it the centre of the Universe as Galileo tried to tell the religious hierarchy. Matt, you say there is no point in debate but the fact of the matter is the carbon Cardinals have told us the time for debate is over and that was before we even had a debate. Just imagine the enquiry when Ed Miliband and Chris Huhne etc are brought before a scam enquiry committee and they tell us they were acting on the best junk scientific advice available. BTW, have you seen Algore's new Californian mansion? Not a wind turbine or solar panel in sight! Just follow the money Matt and enjoy the warming, if it ever comes?

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Seadog says...
9:36pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Spooge says: "As long as I didn't cause that suffering directly, then it's not my responsibility to alleviate it."

Words (almost) fail me! It's bad enough that anyone could even THINK that way - that they can own up to it publicly is truly terrifying.

Oh ... I'm forgetting ... these posts are anonymous ...

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