So who lit that fire? (From York Press)

Thatcher started it years before with her failed belief that Neo-Libralism would work.


It didn't.

Is Martin Smith implying that Labour are to blame because Cameron employed Coulson, or spent his weekends with Rebeka Wade? Perhaps it was Labour who are responsible for the corporate dinners organised in the Lords by the Tory treasurer, or for former defence Minister his unelected sidekick Adam Werrity when they were involved in shady links with the Israelis.
When it comes to seediness, the tories don't need any help from anyone

Jezreel wrote:
Is Martin Smith implying that Labour are to blame because Cameron employed Coulson, or spent his weekends with Rebeka Wade? Perhaps it was Labour who are responsible for the corporate dinners organised in the Lords by the Tory treasurer, or for former defence Minister his unelected sidekick Adam Werrity when they were involved in shady links with the Israelis. When it comes to seediness, the tories don't need any help from anyone

Except from the Lib Dems perhaps?

Good point Bolero

The Great Buda wrote:
Thatcher started it years before with her failed belief that Neo-Libralism would work. It didn't.

At least under Thatcher and Major we got more houses built !

1979 - 1997 : 3,866,020
Ave : 227,413/year

Under Blair & Brown
1997 - 2010 : 2,546,085
Ave 195,852/year

The difference was mainly down to double the amount of social/council housing delivered under the Conservatives, who averaged over 50,000/year whereas Labour only achieved around 25,000/year.

Netr immigration boomed under Labour and housing outturn fell. Result = HOUSING CRISIS.

The fires started by Labour's 13-years of negligence will burn longer...... !!!

Jezreel wrote:
Is Martin Smith implying that Labour are to blame because Cameron employed Coulson, or spent his weekends with Rebeka Wade? Perhaps it was Labour who are responsible for the corporate dinners organised in the Lords by the Tory treasurer, or for former defence Minister his unelected sidekick Adam Werrity when they were involved in shady links with the Israelis. When it comes to seediness, the tories don't need any help from anyone

It's not who politicians employ or socialise with, that is important. It's what they achieve or do not achieve with policies, that make a difference. Labour attack the government over these petty issues to deflect attention away from the legacy of their 13-years of underperformance.

So it's OK with Matthew if politicians have been compromised and perhaps corrupted (subject to the outcome of the Levenson enquiry) by big business, as long as Matthew has access to the housing trough. Why am I not surprised?

Jezreel

Who said that ? Oh, yes - you did !

The way Labour carry on, it's a miracle that there is any big businesses left. They managed to shrink the housebuilding industry and thereby have created a massive housing shortage/crisis. What has the alleged corruption resulted in ? Oh, yes..... NOTHING !

Housing trough ? Typical expression from a left wing looney !

Ah the blame game.

Everyone blaming everyone else and not resolving anything.

Austerity causes hardship and mass unemployment while the wealthy employ tax accounts to avoid paying tax and Osborne repays the wealthy £40,000 each next April and takes it away from the pensioners and the poor.

Writing from a sun drenched beach in the South of France I have to ask you Liz ? who do you hate the most ?
The Royal Family
The Israelis
Mathew Laverack ?

Surely you can see some good in there somewhere, other wise you come across as an old embittered left wing has been.

You do yourself no favours we all see you for what you are ~,,,,,, SAD. Prove me wrong ! some warmth and human compassion would do the job, maybe even some willingness to accept other peoples points of view.
Your constant outpourings of bile and venom towards the three targets with Mathew Laverack at the top of your list appalls the general readers on this site including me. Do us all a faviour and GIVE IT A REST.

Oh and you dont fool anyone with your alter ego newscritic If it isnt you its your other half.

mickrick wrote:
Oh and you dont fool anyone with your alter ego newscritic If it isnt you its your other half.

Que?

newscritic wrote:
Ah the blame game. Everyone blaming everyone else and not resolving anything. Austerity causes hardship and mass unemployment while the wealthy employ tax accounts to avoid paying tax and Osborne repays the wealthy £40,000 each next April and takes it away from the pensioners and the poor.

How is this relevant to the failure to build enough houses and create a worsening problem by causing massive increases in net immigration, by the previous Labour government ?

Matthew trolls his way through these pages without realising what a sad figure he cuts. Campaign to get Hugh Bayley to resign? forget it. Campaign to make it easier for speculative builders to make a fast buck? Forget it.
But back to the main issue. Labour was (and is) a shambles and have sold out both locally and nationally on everything from Iraq to Bernie Eccleston. They haven't had my vote for years and will not get it at the next election. However the letter writer's attempt to blame them for the disasters of the coalition are comical. Cameron is mired in deep deep doo-doo, and it's all the coalitions own work. Furthermore there is lots more to come.

Mr Crabtree wrote:

newscritic wrote:
Ah the blame game. Everyone blaming everyone else and not resolving anything. Austerity causes hardship and mass unemployment while the wealthy employ tax accounts to avoid paying tax and Osborne repays the wealthy £40,000 each next April and takes it away from the pensioners and the poor.

How is this relevant to the failure to build enough houses and create a worsening problem by causing massive increases in net immigration, by the previous Labour government ?

Ah the blame game.

Jezreel wrote:
Matthew trolls his way through these pages without realising what a sad figure he cuts. Campaign to get Hugh Bayley to resign? forget it. Campaign to make it easier for speculative builders to make a fast buck? Forget it. But back to the main issue. Labour was (and is) a shambles and have sold out both locally and nationally on everything from Iraq to Bernie Eccleston. They haven't had my vote for years and will not get it at the next election. However the letter writer's attempt to blame them for the disasters of the coalition are comical. Cameron is mired in deep deep doo-doo, and it's all the coalitions own work. Furthermore there is lots more to come.

Deluded, twisted, bitter and misinformed is the best description of Jezreel, who clearly doesn't realise how sad she comes across.

She won't vote for Labour, but, speaks up for Hugh Bayley ?

Thinks housebuilders are making a fast buck, when the combined top twenty in the UK had a combined turnover of £38billion for the three-year period from 2009-2011, and made a net loss of £5.3billion.

Oh dear, the more she posts the more ridiculous she comes across........

newscritic wrote:

Mr Crabtree wrote:

newscritic wrote: Ah the blame game. Everyone blaming everyone else and not resolving anything. Austerity causes hardship and mass unemployment while the wealthy employ tax accounts to avoid paying tax and Osborne repays the wealthy £40,000 each next April and takes it away from the pensioners and the poor.

How is this relevant to the failure to build enough houses and create a worsening problem by causing massive increases in net immigration, by the previous Labour government ?

Ah the blame game.

So you say, but, you fail to acknowledge the mess that existed before austerity became necessary, and who caused it - LABOUR !

Mr Crabtree wrote:

newscritic wrote:

Mr Crabtree wrote:

newscritic wrote: Ah the blame game. Everyone blaming everyone else and not resolving anything. Austerity causes hardship and mass unemployment while the wealthy employ tax accounts to avoid paying tax and Osborne repays the wealthy £40,000 each next April and takes it away from the pensioners and the poor.

How is this relevant to the failure to build enough houses and create a worsening problem by causing massive increases in net immigration, by the previous Labour government ?

Ah the blame game.

So you say, but, you fail to acknowledge the mess that existed before austerity became necessary, and who caused it - LABOUR !

Ah the blame game.

Matthew, wrong again. When did I speak up for Hugh Bayley? I merely said that your campaign to unseat him is guaranteed to fail as your campaigns always do. Hugh Bayley sold out to the Blairites years ago and voted for the Iraq holocaust. You will never find me saying a good word about him, and he has more chance of being struck by lightning than getting my vote.
However back to seedy politics in the coalition. The Cameron/Murdoch love-in has destined your coalition friends to the dustbin of history. It's just the start, much more to be uncovered and I suspect that the coalition will not last their full term. Here is my predicted result for York. Hugh Bayley, massive victory. UKIP, almost nowt
Liz

Jezreel wrote:
Matthew, wrong again. When did I speak up for Hugh Bayley? I merely said that your campaign to unseat him is guaranteed to fail as your campaigns always do. Hugh Bayley sold out to the Blairites years ago and voted for the Iraq holocaust. You will never find me saying a good word about him, and he has more chance of being struck by lightning than getting my vote. However back to seedy politics in the coalition. The Cameron/Murdoch love-in has destined your coalition friends to the dustbin of history. It's just the start, much more to be uncovered and I suspect that the coalition will not last their full term. Here is my predicted result for York. Hugh Bayley, massive victory. UKIP, almost nowt Liz

More shocking than DC's friendship with RW, is Gordon Brown's selective memory/amnesia at Leveson. With Miliband's back-tracking on immigration, this all reinforces the popular conception, that you can tell when Labour politicians are lying - you just watch to see if their lips are moving !

The Murdoch/Leveson situation will soon die down, and voters will then remember Brown's lies and the mess his lot caused with immigration and under-delivery of housing. The fact that messrs Miliband, Balls, Cooper, Harman, Burnham, Flint etc etc were all involved in the last government, means they will not be trusted and therefore unelectable for years to come..... !!!

Hi Matthew,
I've saved your quote about Murdoch/Levenson will soon die down.
Very rash of you. That comment will be back to haunt you.