Fuming over buses

IF COUN Dave Merrett is linking poor air quality with premature deaths (Letters, April 27), then surely the biggest culprits are the many ancient double-decker city tour buses that travel round the city or stand three-quarters empty while belching out clouds of foul-smelling fumes.

David Hull, The Close, York.

Comments(7)

pedalling paul says...
12:51pm Tue 8 May 12

I understand that VOSA carry out independent checks of public transport vehicles.
They also have a public complaints procedure.You can report a bus or a lorry for having a very smoky exhaust by phoning VOSA on 0300 123 9000, or download a form from their website.

Sillybillies says...
3:03pm Tue 8 May 12

Declare your interest as tour guide on one of these buses.
Re: York Rally 2010
by paulhepworth » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:30 pm
Thank you for feedback to date. The recession has affected the ability of some traders to attend. Also some traders has "pencilled "us in for the end
of Bike Week, whereas we ended up at the beginning ................ blah blah blah

Oh well, back to my day job tomorrow, as a Sightseeing Bus Guide and Bikeability Tainer, here in York.
Paul Hepworth
York Cycle Show Committee Chair.
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Mr Udigawa says...
3:52pm Tue 8 May 12

pedalling paul wrote:
I understand that VOSA carry out independent checks of public transport vehicles. They also have a public complaints procedure.You can report a bus or a lorry for having a very smoky exhaust by phoning VOSA on 0300 123 9000, or download a form from their website.
Can you report it for only having 1 or 2 passengers on for each circuit it does?

pedalling paul says...
10:29pm Tue 8 May 12

Sillybillies wrote:
Declare your interest as tour guide on one of these buses.
Re: York Rally 2010
by paulhepworth » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:30 pm
Thank you for feedback to date. The recession has affected the ability of some traders to attend. Also some traders has "pencilled "us in for the end
of Bike Week, whereas we ended up at the beginning ................ blah blah blah

Oh well, back to my day job tomorrow, as a Sightseeing Bus Guide and Bikeability Tainer, here in York.
Paul Hepworth
York Cycle Show Committee Chair.
paulhepworth
Posts: 32
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1 1:22 pm
You seem to have been to confused.com ....I'm sure my doppleganger will respond if he chooses.

Sillybillies says...
2:55pm Wed 9 May 12

Stop lying, we all know who you are.

purpletimbo says...
1:23pm Thu 10 May 12

Report them all you like, they are so old they are exempt from all emissions tests and regulations

Magicman! says...
3:42am Tue 15 May 12

The buses currently used are ex-Lothian Leylands dating from the early 1990's... whilst it seems unthinkable in this throwaway society that a bus would last 20 years, they were built to last and the main thing that will see these buses dissappear will be DDA leglislation, as they are step entrance buses and not low floor.
York needs some Hybrid buses.. a year or two ago we had some Hybrid buses operating in York on the park and ride route 7 (an Optare Tempo, AlexanderDennis Enviro 400H, and a Volvo B5TL Wright Gemini - for those interested in that stuff) as trial run. The Volvo B5 double decker was part of the First trial fleet and did runs around the region, and led to a small fleet of 'battery buses' being operated in Leeds - these are the silver buses on the '7 series' routes - but in York there has been NO PROGRESS towards battery buses. Back in roughly 2002 we had a Wright Electrocity used on the Purple Line 6 between Osbaldwick and Clifton moor, which was also a hybrid vehicle - and again there was NOTHING which progressed from that. And from the mid 1990's there has been Hydrogen and Gas powered buses here and there, yet York has never embraced such technology. Whether if we had the Go-Ahead group running buses in York that would change I cannot say, but what I will say is this city has had several opportunities to purchase and operate buses that do not rely solely on diesel, and this has never been taken up by the primary bus operator in this city. Now compare this to the tour buses - there are 5 or 6 ex-Lothian leyland olympians doing loops on the tour services and 4 (I believe) late 1990's Dennis Tridents which are the low floor buses doing the tour runs... meanwhile First has a fleet of over 100 buses running around on city-wide services - and whilst some of these buses conform to Euro4 emission regulations (anything from 2007 onwards) none of their buses are hybrids... so perhaps the company with the most buses in York should be the one investing in cleaner technology....

(and Sillybillies: grow up, you're becoming more annoying than Pedalling Paul)

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