Not what he said (From York Press)

Says the man who said at the last council debate there were no steps at Towthorpe tip! I'd get your own house in order before looking into ours Cllr Williams

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
Says the man who said at the last council debate there were no steps at Towthorpe tip! I'd get your own house in order before looking into ours Cllr Williams

As the guy most likely to take over from Cllr Gillies when he goes, I'd have thought you'd welcome all this Cllr Steward?!

Newton1 wrote:

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
Says the man who said at the last council debate there were no steps at Towthorpe tip! I'd get your own house in order before looking into ours Cllr Williams

As the guy most likely to take over from Cllr Gillies when he goes, I'd have thought you'd welcome all this Cllr Steward?!

I do not welcome such a silly letter. In asnwer to Daffyd I would worry far more about the numerous things you got wrong at the last Full Council (steps at Towthorpe, Beckfield waste trends, rates from other councils). I also do not post under the name Torycouncil2015, though I salute the predicting skills of whoever does.

Torycouncil2015 - don't know if I know you, but would be interested in hearing who you are - my email is cllr.csteward@york.g
ov.uk if you want to reveal all!

Chris - please not that I post under my own name - which I have done on many previous occassions which usually end in a flurry of attacks (hence me not posting very often), but here goes anyway.....

I'm sorry you think my letter was silly. I just thought it would be helpful to give your Leader the chance to clarify his position, given that he said in the Council Chamber that he couldn't be both the Leader of the Conservative Group and the candidate for Police and Crime Commissioner (which I entirely agree with him on). I can't see what's silly about asking a perfectly straightforward question, especially given that as a loyal member of his Group you would, I imagine, be as keen to know the answer as I am.

As you know, I have previously asked you in private if you are 'Torycouncil2015' but I entirely accept your word that you are not. Whoever he or she is though, we should certainly both recognise them as they are often given to providing knowledge that only people who were present at council meetings would have.

Care to start a sweepstake on their identity?!

Dafydd Williams wrote:
Chris - please not that I post under my own name - which I have done on many previous occassions which usually end in a flurry of attacks (hence me not posting very often), but here goes anyway.....

I'm sorry you think my letter was silly. I just thought it would be helpful to give your Leader the chance to clarify his position, given that he said in the Council Chamber that he couldn't be both the Leader of the Conservative Group and the candidate for Police and Crime Commissioner (which I entirely agree with him on). I can't see what's silly about asking a perfectly straightforward question, especially given that as a loyal member of his Group you would, I imagine, be as keen to know the answer as I am.

As you know, I have previously asked you in private if you are 'Torycouncil2015' but I entirely accept your word that you are not. Whoever he or she is though, we should certainly both recognise them as they are often given to providing knowledge that only people who were present at council meetings would have.

Care to start a sweepstake on their identity?!

A simpler way to ask Ian's view may be to email, ring him or ask him when you see him - a letter to The Press is unlikely to be the quickest way!!

I genuinely don't know who Torycouncil2015 is and although I am sure I will know them (despite the abudance of Tories throughout York), I really wouldn't like to guess who it is. They are obviously very well informed (all Tories are so not really anything strange there), but I'm not sure they have council specifc knowledge - e.g. today is commenting on another Press article.

I know you post under your own name, perhaps James should as well - it really lacks dignity for a Council Leader not to and to be called Newton!

Newton1 wrote:

Torycouncil2015 wrote: Says the man who said at the last council debate there were no steps at Towthorpe tip! I'd get your own house in order before looking into ours Cllr Williams

As the guy most likely to take over from Cllr Gillies when he goes, I'd have thought you'd welcome all this Cllr Steward?!

Are you James Alexander, Newton1 ?

If you are, please explain why you did not attend the CS exploratory meeting, and did not comment on the Planning Inspector's findings ? Who's fault is the six-month delay to the LDF examination in public ? Why did Dave Merrett leave the meeting early ? Why didn't Coun Simpson-Laing attend ?

Youn have a lot of queations to answer, and cannot run away and hide from this issue - it's coming to bite all three of you on the b*m !

It is a sad indictment of this current cabinet that they assume anybody who knows what happens in York can only be a councillor. That they feel they can say whatever they want in a public meeting of the full council and assume that no one will ever know it.

I'm afraid you'll discover quite quickly Cllr Williams that the public of York are very well informed.

And as for the Cllr leader using his anonymity to try and accuse all who dissent on these pages as being opposition clears its a frequent tactic he uses. People are forever being accused of being former Cllr Steve Galloway or usually Cllr Ayre. It's a tactic he's used well to try and convince the public that there are no dissenting voices.

I think he might even deluded enough to believe that. The reality is in 2015 when he pulls his head out of the sand there will be very few labour councillors left waiting to elect his successor as leader!