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Sizing up British jobs

I AGREE with the suggestion that we could save jobs by buying British (Letters, February 1).

Just before Christmas, my husband bought two pairs of trousers from Marks & Spencer, both the same size, different colours.

One was made in Vietnam, the other Indonesia. One pair fitted, the other from waist to crotch was very short and the waist would go nowhere near.

Both were the same size according to the label.

In the summer, I bought ladies trousers, both had left legs. Men’s jumpers would seem to fit monkeys, the arms are so long.

Friends bought men’s trousers last year, 34 waist, 29 leg. Having tried them on the legs were short, they took them back to be told they could go two inches longer or shorter. What is the point of putting sizes on if they are not correct?

We spend more time taking things back.

Marks & Spencer’s slogan used to be “Buy British” – what happened to that?

Most things now are made in China. I think people are sick of this.

With so much unemployment can we now go back to Buy British?

Mrs S Draper, Key Way, Fulford, York.

Comments(14)

lis0r says...
11:00am Fri 10 Feb 12

You do realise that whilst they're made abroad, they're almost certainly designed here in the UK, right?

That's how the British economy works these days - we do the "clever" bit, then send it off to 3rd world sweatshops to be built. Sadly, some companies aren't as clever as they'd like to believe.

newscritic says...
11:27am Fri 10 Feb 12

With the introduction of 3d manufaturing technology using nanoparticles and other new materials, manufacturing should shift back to the UK in time.

In fact this should create an explosion in much smaller localised businesses or people simply making things for themselves with machines a bit like a microwave oven/printer combined.

lis0r says...
12:25pm Fri 10 Feb 12

Hah, you wish! The machines are pretty dangerous, be it the 120degC+ temperatures involved in melting plastic, the toxic photopolymers, or the invisible lasers that'll roast your eyes out in a second. Also, the cost of materials is often horrendous - I should know, having had to buy a few kilos of exceedingly expensive plastic filament recently for my RepRap.

3D printers are great for rapid prototyping, or small scale, highly customised production, but they'll never win out against bulk manufacturing techniques.

Corran says...
12:51pm Fri 10 Feb 12

As far as I'm aware, Marks and Spencer has a changing room to try on clothes before purchase. spending 5 mins trying something on saves a lot of time and money.

Jezreel says...
12:55pm Fri 10 Feb 12

Is Mrs Draper right? I don't remember M&S promoting buy British.
In fact the suits she bought are made by the Israeli owned company Plogat (Bagir ) wich has factories in Vietnam, Indonesia,India, Egypt etc. If you check the penultimate para of this link, you will see that M&S are their largest customer. lisOr is wrong. None of them are designed in the UK
http://www.haaretz.c
om/print-edition/bus
iness/riding-polgat-
s-53-share-leap-bagi
r-plans-to-raise-nis
-100m-1.150965

newscritic says...
1:45pm Fri 10 Feb 12

lis0r wrote:
Hah, you wish! The machines are pretty dangerous, be it the 120degC+ temperatures involved in melting plastic, the toxic photopolymers, or the invisible lasers that'll roast your eyes out in a second. Also, the cost of materials is often horrendous - I should know, having had to buy a few kilos of exceedingly expensive plastic filament recently for my RepRap.

3D printers are great for rapid prototyping, or small scale, highly customised production, but they'll never win out against bulk manufacturing techniques.
Oh ye of little faith.

alfie says...
1:51pm Fri 10 Feb 12

hmmm a pair of trousers with two left legs am i been dim or is it a joke.

lis0r says...
3:15pm Fri 10 Feb 12

newscritic wrote:
lis0r wrote:
Hah, you wish! The machines are pretty dangerous, be it the 120degC+ temperatures involved in melting plastic, the toxic photopolymers, or the invisible lasers that'll roast your eyes out in a second. Also, the cost of materials is often horrendous - I should know, having had to buy a few kilos of exceedingly expensive plastic filament recently for my RepRap.

3D printers are great for rapid prototyping, or small scale, highly customised production, but they'll never win out against bulk manufacturing techniques.
Oh ye of little faith.
I don't need faith, on account of actually understanding and using the technology.

newscritic says...
3:17pm Fri 10 Feb 12

lis0r wrote:
newscritic wrote:
lis0r wrote:
Hah, you wish! The machines are pretty dangerous, be it the 120degC+ temperatures involved in melting plastic, the toxic photopolymers, or the invisible lasers that'll roast your eyes out in a second. Also, the cost of materials is often horrendous - I should know, having had to buy a few kilos of exceedingly expensive plastic filament recently for my RepRap.

3D printers are great for rapid prototyping, or small scale, highly customised production, but they'll never win out against bulk manufacturing techniques.
Oh ye of little faith.
I don't need faith, on account of actually understanding and using the technology.
You should do some more research.

ColdAsChristmas says...
10:25pm Fri 10 Feb 12

It is true that as late as the 80's Marks & Spencer would boast that most of their produce was British Made.
That said, some years ago Panorama uncovered a scam where a North African sweat shop was sowing in Made in the UK labels into clothing, so you never know how British they really were in supporting our country.
The merchandise / memorabilia for the 2012 Olympic games is being manufactured mostly overseas, mostly China. One thing is clear and that is that our Coalition Government are not doing anywhere near enough to ensure we are able to find and purchase British made goods.

ak7274 says...
3:22pm Sat 11 Feb 12

I will buy British when the quality and prices come somewhere near what I can afford. I am willing to pay a little extra for home grown goods,but often gear can be more than twice the price. I have seen more and more so called British company sub out their labour to the far east and to eastern Europe to save costs. Wonder how they justify claiming to be a British firm with few or no workers in Britain?

ak7274 says...
3:24pm Sat 11 Feb 12

There is also the lack of support from governement, botk local and National for British industry. I suppose the worries of the Union lock outs in the 70's hasn't gone away.

Brickyard says...
4:50pm Sun 12 Feb 12

lis0r wrote:
You do realise that whilst they're made abroad, they're almost certainly designed here in the UK, right?

That's how the British economy works these days - we do the "clever" bit, then send it off to 3rd world sweatshops to be built. Sadly, some companies aren't as clever as they'd like to believe.
Magaret Thatcher beat the dockers, and opened the door to all this averice and greed, if the dockers still had the power, most of these imports wouldn't get in the country, and therefore would be made here.

ak7274 says...
6:56pm Sun 12 Feb 12

There would also be so many strikes that there would be empty shops waiting for deliveries.

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