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I SUGGEST the problem of TV licence dodgers (The Press, February 1) would be alleviated if we adopted the French system whereby you are automatically billed for your TV licence, along with your community tax. If you do not have a TV, you have to opt out.

Kathleen Lovatt, Witham Drive, Huntington, York.

Comments(10)

lis0r says...
10:10am Tue 7 Feb 12

Maybe if the TV Licensing authority believed people when they said they didn't have a tele, that'd be a workable solution. As it is, they find the very idea incomprehensible, and relentlessly harass most people who don't need a license.

Sillybillies says...
11:56am Tue 7 Feb 12

Maybe if the TV Licensing authority believed people when they said they didn't have a tele, that'd be a workable solution. As it is, they find the very idea incomprehensible, and relentlessly harass most people who don't need a license.

You also need one for a PC capable of receiving TV programmes on such as BBC player don't forget.

emen says...
12:33pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Sillybillies wrote:
Maybe if the TV Licensing authority believed people when they said they didn't have a tele, that'd be a workable solution. As it is, they find the very idea incomprehensible, and relentlessly harass most people who don't need a license.

You also need one for a PC capable of receiving TV programmes on such as BBC player don't forget.
You don't need a licence for using the BBC iplayer or any other "non-live" on demand player.

It does seem a bit strange that if you're prepared to watch programmes a short while after they've been broadcast, on a device that can't receive "live" broadcasts (a PC, tablet or mobile) then you get them for free.

lis0r says...
2:44pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Sillybillies wrote:
Maybe if the TV Licensing authority believed people when they said they didn't have a tele, that'd be a workable solution. As it is, they find the very idea incomprehensible, and relentlessly harass most people who don't need a license.

You also need one for a PC capable of receiving TV programmes on such as BBC player don't forget.
Yeah, um, first, you're wrong, you *only* need one if you're capable of watching live television, and secondly, I don't mean "don't watch it live", or "don't watch it on their tele but watch it on their PC". Believe it or not, there are plenty of people out there who don't watch the mind rotting dreck at all.

mickrick says...
3:49pm Tue 7 Feb 12

lis0r wrote:
Maybe if the TV Licensing authority believed people when they said they didn't have a tele, that'd be a workable solution. As it is, they find the very idea incomprehensible, and relentlessly harass most people who don't need a license.
Absolutely true, the number of threatening letters Ive had at an empty house is staggering.
And when i say threatening I really mean threatening. I sent a reply "empty house" but they just kept coming.
Were going to take you to court!
You will be fined £1000.00
Investigators know who you are.

Bring it on I have a bucket of water waiting.

Sillybillies says...
4:37pm Tue 7 Feb 12

The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.
You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong now!!

emen says...
5:25pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Sillybillies wrote:
The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.
You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong now!!
If you can watch it or record it "live" then you need a licence.

If you can only download it then you don't.

Back and Beyond says...
5:35pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I'll agree to the French way of collecting license money if the same relentless harassment is dished out to the corporate tax dodgers..

FulfordMick says...
6:29pm Tue 7 Feb 12

This page clarifies whether you need one or not to watch iPlayer etc : http://www.tvlicensi
ng.co.uk/check-if-yo
u-need-one/

Interestingly, I had it confirmed over the phone by someone at TV Licencing that if they send someone round to your residence to check if you're watching TV without a licence, you're not obliged to let them in.

Back and Beyond says...
7:34pm Tue 7 Feb 12

FulfordMick wrote:
This page clarifies whether you need one or not to watch iPlayer etc : http://www.tvlicensi

ng.co.uk/check-if-yo

u-need-one/

Interestingly, I had it confirmed over the phone by someone at TV Licencing that if they send someone round to your residence to check if you're watching TV without a licence, you're not obliged to let them in.
Correct, they are only allowed in with a warrant of entry (very rarely given)

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=PPwNgIsH9
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