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Why not base NHS on German model?

The Coalition Government is trying to radically alter the NHS, save money and make things more efficient and customer friendly.

Unfortunately they seem to be upsetting a large number of the health professionals and trade unions and not making things clear to the patients. Why do they not follow the leaders in this field?

Germany has probably the finest health care services in the world. German hospitals are split into three sections. One third is owned and run by the State; one third run by private companies and the last third run by non-profit making organisations.

At the new Pontefract and District hospital, the A&E department has to close at 10.30pm every night due to a lack of doctors. In Germany, there are so many qualified doctors, not all can find work in Germany, so many go elsewhere.

Surely we could learn from the German methods how to improve our NHS without annoying so many people?

David Quarrie, Lynden Way, Holgate, York.

• THE Health and Social Care Bill goes back to the House of Lords next week and it is clear the Government will now have to make major amendments to the original Bill to meet the almost universal declarations of concern about its impact on patient safety and universal health-care provision.

So, I hope the amendments will support NHS providers to develop integrated services at every opportunity.

The proposed health and wellbeing boards should be an opportunity for us to do that by bringing together health and social-care providers. But this could have been done without the huge demolition job now underway with the abolition of Primary Care Trusts and Strategic Health Authorities.

I also hope they will address the concerns that the NHS Future Forum found with the issues of integration. That is in the way funding is allocated, which can discourage the NHS in tackling the problem. Hopefully, Monitor (the independant regulator of NHS Trusts) will be given the power and the authority to require healthcare providers to co-operate and support integration.

Finally, shared budgets between the clinical commissioning groups and social care commissioners will ensure that health and social-care commissioners will work together in the interests of patients, service users and their carers.

Christina Funnell, Heworth ward councillor, Upper Price Street, York.

• THE proposed Welfare Reform Bill has been sent to the House of Lords where seven different amendments were made to it, not one section was approved.

It was then sent back to the House of Commons in its revised form. The Coalition Government did not accept these amendments and proceeded to use their powers to overrule the Lords’ proposals. What is the point of sending it to the Lords in the first place?

It would seem that if the Lords do not agree with the original proposals, the Government ignores them and goes its own way. So let’s disband the Lords and save a lot of money, because it would seem to be just an expensive old boys’ club.

AP Cox, Heath Close, Holgate, York.

• FOLLOWING the trouble in the House of Lords over the bill to put a cap on benefits, the Commons on February 1 discussed several of the Lords amendments.

Amendments 15/17/18 and 73 were accepted by the Commons with a majority vote of around 60. As the Coalition has a majority in the Commons, some members must have voted against the Government – conscience perhaps?

Amendment 15 ensures that severely disabled young people continue to receive contributory Employment Support Allowance.

Amendment 17 opposes the introduction of a 12-month limit to claim contributory Employment Support. Amendment 18 would ensure that cancer patients undergoing treatment will still receive Employment Support Allowance.

None of the above were unreasonable amendments to the Bill or they would have been voted out. The Lords on this occasion have done a good job and should keep doing so, especially the 34 Conservative Lords who played their part in this victory of common sense.

Dennis Barton, Woodthorpe, York.

Comments(11)

Zetkin says...
12:38pm Mon 6 Feb 12

No need to follow the German model, keen as Mr Quarrie has been on all things German for many a long year.

I have a much better idea.

Let's have a national health service, free for all at the point of delivery, and paid for by taxing big business, which is well able to afford it, but currently evading its social responsibility by refusing to pay billions a year.

I'm amazed no one's thought of it before.

lis0r says...
1:12pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Yeah, and let's have a unicorn petting zoo, a new international porcine airport, and an academy for wizardry while we're at it! There'll be plenty of space left from where all the big businesses have emigrated to pastures greener.

Money might end up being tight, given all the unemployed it'd create, but I guess we can just pay for them with the pot of gold we found at the end of the rainbow?

redrrr says...
3:51pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Zetkin wrote:
No need to follow the German model, keen as Mr Quarrie has been on all things German for many a long year.

I have a much better idea.

Let's have a national health service, free for all at the point of delivery, and paid for by taxing big business, which is well able to afford it, but currently evading its social responsibility by refusing to pay billions a year.

I'm amazed no one's thought of it before.
Spot on.

Jezreel says...
3:51pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Hi Zetkin. They'll tell you we can't afford it, but that we can afford to spend countless billions year on year on unwinnable, even criminal, wars and on the Trident programme

CynicaloldGit says...
3:57pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Aye, Zetkin gets my vote too.

BTW, who is this buffoon lis0r? is Chissy back under a new alias?

lis0r says...
4:29pm Mon 6 Feb 12

No, I'm much *much* more sarcastic than CHISSY1 ever was - I'm sure they'd have replied with little more than "SILENCE PEON!"

I, on the other hand, am both cynical and jaded enough to know that, as a hugely indebted country, we're only as important as big business says we are. Without them, our economy would be minuscule: we produce next to nothing, and have no real assets to speak of. Scare them off with the threats of taxes, and they'll easily up sticks and move themselves overseas to places clamoring to give them a better offer. All you'll achieve at best is overburdening small businesses to the brink of existence, and at worst throw us back to third world country status.

Jezreel says...
7:54pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Speak for yourself lisOr. My small business is doing fine, and so is that of my son. Our fear is the deadhand of the bankers who have driven business and the whole economy to the wall and may yet take us with them. Unemployment means no money going through the tills and that is what drives some struggling family business to the wall, and no amount of forelock tugging to big buisiness will alter that.

Omega Point says...
9:28pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Jezreel wrote:
Speak for yourself lisOr. My small business is doing fine, and so is that of my son. Our fear is the deadhand of the bankers who have driven business and the whole economy to the wall and may yet take us with them. Unemployment means no money going through the tills and that is what drives some struggling family business to the wall, and no amount of forelock tugging to big buisiness will alter that.
One of the most incisive and erudite comments of recent times.

lis0r says...
10:08am Tue 7 Feb 12

Yet entirely missing the point - I'm not saying you're having trouble now, I'm pointing out the consequence of trying to tax big business.

Just who do you think puts the money in the pocket of your customers, Jezreel? That's right - big business. With them gone, your customers are broke, and therefore no longer your customers. That's a crippling blow to start with. Then, the tax man will go after big business, but oh noes! No big businesses left! They're not going to give their new found powers up, though, oh no - they're going to use them to come after you and other small businesses, instead. They'll gladly kick a man while he's down, and wipe out whatever hope you had left.

The idea of going after big business is deluded fantasy - these are organizations big enough to basically be above the law. That's why they're not paying their fair share of tax to begin with.

I'm not a fan of big business, but you need a far more assertive action than merely pleading with them in a more annoying tone of voice, which is all taxation will amount to. Freeze their assets, rinse them through the courts for all their crimes and misdemeanors, confiscate the proceeds of same. It'll drive them away just as effectively, but maybe the country will have something worthwhile left over afterwards. We certainly don't at the moment, having been sold down the river by successive governments of either colour. Shame it's just as equally a fantasy - the UK doesn't have a taste for revolution, and it's what's required to break out of the status quot.

Big Bad Wolf says...
10:34am Tue 7 Feb 12

Mmmmmmmm.... where is CHISSY1??

Omega Point says...
5:56pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Big Bad Wolf wrote:
Mmmmmmmm.... where is CHISSY1??
Probably still mourning the loss of his wife

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