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Cow herd a risk to walkers on Clifton Ings


I WALK my dogs twice a day on Clifton Ings. Recently, there seem to be even more cows than usual. They are causing a mess to paths and obstructing cyclists and walkers.

Some have made their way to a field close to the Dormouse Pub, where they can get on to the road, which is a danger. It is becoming difficult to take my dogs out, as most dogs are let off the lead to run about but, when cows are there, obviously this can be a danger to the cows and the public. The mess cows are causing not only to the fields but the paths is unacceptable. One cyclist the other morning had to swerve off the cycle path on to the grass to avoid hitting several cows. They don’t move unless dogs end up chasing them off. A once nice daily walk has now turned into a nightmare for all who use the Ings.

As for the mess left by the travellers – who is responsible for the clean-up? Glass and kitchen household appliances are surely a safety hazard.

Miss D M Bolton, Clifton Moor, York.

Comments(18)

spiritofyork says...
10:25am Fri 3 Sep 10

NO COWS IN MY BACK YARD!! Congratulations on the most ridiculous letter in a long time.

Mr Udigawa says...
10:36am Fri 3 Sep 10

Are you from this planet? Get a life and get your wellies on.
Incidentally, I believe anyone who allows a dog to chase livestock can and should be prosecuted.

Note to the editor: Why do you allow such rubbish to be published?

York Fox says...
10:54am Fri 3 Sep 10

Good God! COWS IN THE COUNTRYSIDE! Whatever next!? I suggest all livestock and farmland is destroyed to make it a little more convenient to take a stroll or bike ride.

It is you that is the inconvenience to the livestock Ms Bolton. Go and live in London if you want pristine animal free parkland.

meme says...
11:07am Fri 3 Sep 10

i use the track every day and never have had an issue with dangerous cows.For gods sake get a life
Cows poop thats why the grass is so green!They belong here and frankly take presedence over walkers/cyclists
Get a life and enjoy the country not complain about what makes it great

Silver says...
11:35am Fri 3 Sep 10

The mess cows are causing not only to the fields
I believe it is scientifically called manure.
Also don't cows get right of way? I see a cow and if I was on or in any form of vehicle I'd give it the right of way just due to the fact it's an animal.
Although then again I'm not retarded

York Fox says...
12:07pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Silver, surely you aren't suggesting Ms Bolton is "retarded"? All she wants is the countryside nicely tarmac-ed, sanitised and perhaps with a nice delicatessen every mile or so.

Silver says...
12:37pm Fri 3 Sep 10

And for animals to stop the cycle of life? Only way to do that is to put nappies on every animal wild and farmed.....
Lets face it everything needs to eat so cows eat grass but produce fertiliser it's so basic I think an 8 year old could understand the concept. So yeh I'll go with my suggestion

Mr Udigawa says...
1:08pm Fri 3 Sep 10

If you substitute the word Chav for Cow this letter actually makes sense.

Lankymick says...
1:28pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Miss Bolton must be something of a newcomer to York, since the practice of Lammas grazing (cows on the Ouse Ings) has occurred since time immemorial.

Land such as Clifton Ings, Rawcliffe Meadows and Rawcliffe Ings is agricultural land with a level pf permissive access for walkers and cyclists, so people should respect the Country Code, whilst animals are under no obligation to observe the Highway Code. The grazing is a very necessary requirement to maintain the biodiversity of the Ings, and hence the funding, without which areas like Rawcliffe Meadows would not have public access. If Miss Bolton would like to learn more I suggest she makes contact with Friends of Rawcliffe Meadows or the Floodplain Meadows Partnership to learn about the management of this nationally rare resource.

When cattle do stray from the sites, this is as a result of unwelcome visitors breaking gates, kissing gates and fences.

pedalling paul says...
1:32pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Cows are horses with handlebars, according to my grand daughter.

Mr Udigawa says...
2:05pm Fri 3 Sep 10

pedalling paul wrote:
Cows are horses with handlebars, according to my grand daughter.
That's Bull Paul.

moneyforwhat says...
4:49pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Mr Udigawa wrote:
Are you from this planet? Get a life and get your wellies on. Incidentally, I believe anyone who allows a dog to chase livestock can and should be prosecuted. Note to the editor: Why do you allow such rubbish to be published?
well said fella......had a ride out yesterday and went across the moors to Whitby.........sheep loose all over the place (smiles). Also love where you are about to enter Beverley and the cows are all loose. Funny thing animals just don't contain themselves to being wrapped in plastic at the supermarket.

TooRelaxed says...
11:42am Sat 4 Sep 10

Loving all these comments!
This is the Press letters page at its very best. I love it when folk write letters to publicly announce their stupidity to as many people as they can and now that the Press is online the whole world can see just how dim Miss Bolton is. Bravo idiota!

old_geezer says...
8:15pm Sat 4 Sep 10

I cycle this way frequently, have done for years, never had a problem as long as I use some common sense and steer round the droppings.

Silver says...
8:33pm Sat 4 Sep 10

TooRelaxed wrote:
Loving all these comments!
This is the Press letters page at its very best. I love it when folk write letters to publicly announce their stupidity to as many people as they can and now that the Press is online the whole world can see just how dim Miss Bolton is. Bravo idiota!
True but it's annoying that education just doesn't work on some people. The species needs to improve or our schools need to get the absolute basics of how our world works to everyone again.
I don't want to sit through 2 plus 2 is 4 again. I understood the concept immediately it'd be so dull to repeat that.

petethefeet says...
9:13pm Sat 4 Sep 10

There is some history involved here. The said land is owned by the environment agency who manage the land in keeping with CYC's policy for the Strays. Broadly, this policy involves maintaining 'rural spaces' within the City of York. My own definition of 'rural' is that it 'sticks to your shoes'. Harrogate and Leeds maintain their open spaces more as 'urban parkland'. Personally, I prefer the latter.
The environment agency permit Sustrans to maintain a cycle path as part of the national network. Originally, this path was of 'compacted clay', but didn't perform very well when subjected to the hooves of the Aberdeen Angus that always seem to be shipped in at this time of year. I believe this is to maintain the flora and diversity of the (rural) meadows. The original clay path became so disgusting that Sustrans relayed it with a tarmac path.

Lankymick says...
7:27pm Mon 6 Sep 10

A few inaccuracies in your history -

Ms B said Clifton Ings, which is one section of the Ouse Ings to the east of the river at the north of the city. Clifton Ings has seven owners and is largely managed by Stephensons.

The National Rivers Authority would only allow Sustrans to put the cycle track through if the land was managed as a nature reserve.

On the other side of the Ings Dyke is Rawcliffe Meadows, now owned by the Environment Agency. In 1990 when Sustrans wanted to put in a cycle track the then owners the National Rivers Authority would only permit it, if the land was managed as a nature reserve, which it is by the Friends of Rawcliffe Meadows.

The original track was recycled road-planings. Not a good choice when the 2000 floods immersed the area for quite a long time!

There have never been Aberdeen Angus on the site. Occasionally Hereford cows and their heifers, a lovely docile animal.

As stated above Lammas grazing is a traditional method of managing flood meadows. Otherwise its two or more cuts per year.

The CoYC has little to do with Rawcliffe Meadows and the management policy has been in place for 20 years with the support of DEFRA. In fact, the meadows were recovered from over-grazing before CoYC returned to more traditional methods.

Goodfella says...
4:50pm Thu 9 Sep 10

What a silly woman. Why doesn't she walk her silly little genetically engineered dog down the lovely man made A19 instead? She can then categorise herself as a city dweller and allow others to enjoy the countryside and animals within it.
Its idiots like this that go around letting stock out of field by deliberately cutting fences. If all the strays and large open space had stock on them then no money would be wasted cutting grass for the sake of it and culling our wild flowers.
Bring back more stock to our public open spaces.


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