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Buses just too big


THAT is it. I have experienced my third brush with death at a street corner in York in the past week.

A large, empty bus, speeding, ran red lights where Micklegate joins Bridge Street and several pedestrians – including me – had to jump out of the way. The green man showed it was ‘safe’ to cross.

The buses are too big. They are often almost empty. They hold up traffic and some (as in last night) shoot red lights.

Twice I have had to jump back out of the way, as the front of a bus comes two feet over the pavement. This is potentially lethal. Cyclists and tiny children in buggies are most at risk, as are the elderly, who may not be able to get out of the way quickly.

These buses are too big for the streets of the city centre. We need a fleet of small, zippy, easy-to-board and cheap-to-run electric buses that will run frequently and to capacity.

There is literally no room for the huge buses that threaten our safety, squeeze out cyclists and hold up the flow of traffic on a daily basis.

The drivers are not at fault (except for this particular urban cowboy.) They have to swing the front of the bus or coach over the pavement to get round. But sooner or later someone will be killed or seriously injured. Then it will be too late.

Cut emissions, save pedestrians and cyclists and provide a decent, reliable shuttle service into town by selling the current fleet or cancelling the contracts, and replacing them with electric vehicles suited to the scale of our city streets.

Susan Wade Weeks, Conservative prospective Parliamentary candidate for York Central and member of York Environment Forum, St John Street, York.

Comments(8)

Silver says...
10:58am Tue 16 Mar 10

Should have taken the time and the registration of the bus and rang First. Mainly as the guy is being a danger and they need to know about it. The rest of this letter I agree with, but there are things you have to do to stop repeats of this behaviour.

sheps lad says...
12:30pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Silver wrote:
Should have taken the time and the registration of the bus and rang First. Mainly as the guy is being a danger and they need to know about it. The rest of this letter I agree with, but there are things you have to do to stop repeats of this behaviour.
STAND WELL BACK!!!

TooRad says...
12:50pm Tue 16 Mar 10

I agree with the letter writer, mostly.
She says the drivers aren't to blame. Many of them are, actually. Institutionalised careless and sometimes deliberately bad driving.
.
As silver says, take the time and place and bus number and report them.
Not that it ever changes anything...

Maquis says...
1:06pm Tue 16 Mar 10

A perfect example of this is that the busses that turn the corner of Micklegate and George Hudson St are far too big for that junction. The path is too narrow and the mirrors of the buses have to go over the pavement to make the turn. I have seen so many people have to jump back to avoid being hit. The bendy busses are too big for that part of the route and the FTR's are just making a bad problem far worse.

pedalling paul says...
3:27pm Tue 16 Mar 10

To be effective at peak times, the Park & Ride Service needs to offer high capacity. Also low floor access throughout the vehicle for buggy and wheelchair users.
Together with York's bus priority measures, this gives confidence to longer distance car commuters, that they can use the service along with its many advantages.
A bus fleet of smaller vehicles would need more drivers, and associated staffing costs. Bus services are almost wholy commercially operated following Tory government deregulation. I doubt that any local operators would tender for the P&R service, if they had to use the fleet of mini-electric buses that Susan suggests. And it would discourage peak time use of the service. True there are issues with articulated vehicles when they reach the city centre. But these are vastly outweighed by the 1 million less car journeys per year, into the City that P&R saves.
As a cyclist, I deliberately manage my journey safely, when in the vicinity of long vehicles.
York seems to be better managed than Susan's former stamping ground of Chichester, where P&R only operates for a few weeks in the run up to Christmas. I dread to think what their city centre air quality must be like.

LibDem says...
5:01pm Tue 16 Mar 10

So much lack of understanding. Can this person really be aspiring to become a Member of Parliament?
There is no "contract" to cancel. As a result of Tory legislation 20 years ago bus operators are free to run what ever fleet they feel is commercially most advantageous.
Electric Park and Ride buses? No such vehicle exists at present. The minimum 4 miles (8 mile round trip) followed by a Park and Ride vehicle is outside even the range of the best hybrid bus on the market (it would use its diesel engine 99% of the time).
There is just a possibility that a new generation “plug in” hybrid bus may become available in time for the letting of the Park and Ride contract which will serve the A59 Popppleton site. Power points are being made available at all the new Park and Ride sites (both for buses and for use by the new generation of plug in cars).
PP is correct in saying that the size and capacity of the buses used in York – as elsewhere- is dictated by peak hour demand requirements.

old_geezer says...
6:59pm Tue 16 Mar 10

LibDem: we've differed before about using double deckers, like Coastliner and First service 1. You say they're not suitable for frequent stops, but P&R don't have frequent stops, although service 1 does. Agreed there are unsuitable routes (Leeman Road and Walmgate Bar), but the rest would be safer with shorter vehicles.

ak7274 says...
8:28pm Wed 17 Mar 10

If a bus overhangs the pavement at any time, it's dangerous. Using Puddled Pauls theories the City would die in a fortnight. I am so glad the other berk states that dirty great buses are ok as long as it's in peak periods. Oh sorry.......that's just when pedestrians are wanting to use the footpaths that the buses need to get their great big noses around. As for the contract that doesn't exist.........Do us a favour and check up before you tell us all Rabbit turds are raisins. The Council have as much power over public transport in York as the GLC does in London.
How do I know?. I asked


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