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Father Tim Jones: ‘My words were meant to shock’


My pre-Christmas sermon was deliberately phrased to shock because, generally, we are comfortably blind to the suffering of the destitute, and deaf to those who call it to our attention.

Anyone who has heard or read the sermon in full knows what was said, which was not that “shoplifting is okay for the poor”. The message is simple and unremarkable. When people who have nothing experience delay in their benefits, they can move temporarily but swiftly from relative poverty to absolute poverty.

We all need to support each other better, stop despising people for being poor, and make sure that nobody has to wait several weeks for their meagre benefits. Failure in all that tempts people towards crime, and everyone suffers. Shoplifting is wrong and harmful; burglary, mugging, prostitution and self-harm – including neglect – are even more so. For the love of God, let’s make sure that people always have better options. Sometimes they don’t, and that is a disgrace.

Father Tim Jones, The parishes of St Lawrence and St Hilda, York.

• I think Father Tim Jones’s comments regarding shoplifting were unfortunate and quite frankly silly (“It’s okay to shoplift” says York priest, The Press, December 21).

However, I am very much disgusted with the actions of Martin Stot (Bucket shock, The Press, December 30). There are many ways that people can express their unhappiness with people’s comments without purchasing tinned food and throwing such food on a person; let alone a man of the cloth after a Sunday sermon.

We live in a liberal society and if everybody poured tinned spaghetti on each other when they disagreed, Heinz would be the only employer. I understand that Mr Stot may have had a hard life, but this no excuse. I am a working-class lad and I wouldn’t dream of doing such a thing.

I take my hat off to Father Jones for not retaliating and taking the protest in good humour. I do not know how I would have reacted.

Coun James Alexander, Labour prospective Parliamentary candidate for York Outer, Holgate Road, York.


Comments(8)

Jassy says...
11:09am Tue 12 Jan 10

I'm a working class lad too. I wouldn't dream of standing for the Labour party. Each to their own I guess.

Zetkin says...
12:19pm Tue 12 Jan 10

"let’s make sure that people always have better options. Sometimes they don’t, and that is a disgrace."
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Absolutely.
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And instead of bleating on about the ten commandments, the likes of Asda might do well to reflect on a well-known saying of Christ: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of heaven."

Zetkin says...
12:23pm Tue 12 Jan 10

...and as for Cllr Alexander calling the sermon "silly" he might like to reflect on his party's erstwhile messiah's promise to be "tough on the causes of crime".
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Fr Tim has clearly identified a couple of causes of crime: poverty and shocking delays in payments to people in poverty.
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I'd like to see Cllr Alexander and his party actually doing something about these problems rather than constantly sucking up to the super-rich.
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I'm off to my bedroom to hold my breath ;o)

TooRad says...
1:08pm Tue 12 Jan 10

I repeat: jeez that Alexander bloke doesn't half go on a bit. What a pointless letter, less about the substance and more about keeping his name in the public eye. Self promotion a speciality.

Silver says...
2:50pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Although isn't Father Tim nice, after all The Press skim read his sermon and then decide to slander him by misreading his sermon and miss the point then label him as the Priest who says it's ok to shoplift? He could take them to court for defamation of character, and win all he needs is his sermon in full (Luckily located on this page) and the headline The Press ran. Oh and he could add in to the court case it changed people's reaction to him (like spaghetti idiot)

pedalling paul says...
3:36pm Tue 12 Jan 10

I was delighted to see it referred to by Christine Bleakley when she opened the One Show on the day that the story broke. Mind you, I did email the Press article to their editorial team at the Beeb.

RingoStarr says...
6:17pm Tue 12 Jan 10

pedalling paul wrote:
I was delighted to see it referred to by Christine Bleakley when she opened the One Show on the day that the story broke. Mind you, I did email the Press article to their editorial team at the Beeb.
How smug! Mind you you have done us the favour of not mentioning bicycles this time.

petethefeet says...
11:51pm Wed 13 Jan 10

At the time, I wrote in support of Tim. I'm proud to have done that and am proud of him.


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