Speed limit

Speed limit

Speed limit

First published in Letters by

I READ with disbelief the article of August 13 stating that since its introduction the police have not stopped a single motorist for exceeding the 20mph speed limits around York’s streets.

Is this because all motorists are totally law abiding, or is it because the police can’t be bothered?

If the police would like to make up for the lack of prosecutions over the past two years, they could position an officer with a speed gun at the bottom of Malvern Avenue which since the closure of Carr Lane has become a rat-run.

If that weren’t bad enough a lot of the motorists using Malvern Avenue as a short cut are exceeding 30mph in the 20mph zone anyway.

I appreciate that the police budget and staffing levels must be difficult to balance, but I’m sure the revenue from speeding fines would far outstrip the cost of enforcing the speed limits.

Maybe they could use one of the three extra safety camera vans to make our residential streets a bit safer.

Graham Hayden, Malvern Avenue, York.

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11:02am Mon 18 Aug 14

Dan Atkinson says...

I'm personally not a big fan of having police sat around their radar gun at traffic; it's a waste of resources in my opinion.

If anything, I'd prefer funds were allocated to erect flashing LED speeding signs. However I don't think residents would enjoy them lighting up at all hours of the night...
I'm personally not a big fan of having police sat around their radar gun at traffic; it's a waste of resources in my opinion. If anything, I'd prefer funds were allocated to erect flashing LED speeding signs. However I don't think residents would enjoy them lighting up at all hours of the night... Dan Atkinson
  • Score: 22

11:55am Mon 18 Aug 14

Stevie D says...

The police target their limited resources where they will be most effective. Catching drivers doing 25mph in a 20 limit will have little or no benefit to road safety, it won't reduce accidents or casualties, so why would they do it?

As for drivers exceeding 30mph along Malvern Avenue – that's ridiculous. There may be the very occasional driver going down there at silly speeds, but the overwhelming majority of drivers are going a lot slower than that – it simply isn't possible to get up to any speed there because it is so narrow and has so many parked cars. If drivers were regularly doing 30mph along there, you'd see a dozen crashes a day.
The police target their limited resources where they will be most effective. Catching drivers doing 25mph in a 20 limit will have little or no benefit to road safety, it won't reduce accidents or casualties, so why would they do it? As for drivers exceeding 30mph along Malvern Avenue – that's ridiculous. There may be the [bold]very[/bold] occasional driver going down there at silly speeds, but the overwhelming majority of drivers are going a lot slower than that – it simply isn't possible to get up to any speed there because it is so narrow and has so many parked cars. If drivers were regularly doing 30mph along there, you'd see a dozen crashes a day. Stevie D
  • Score: 19

12:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Thecynic says...

I doubt if the revenue would outstrip the cost of providing police cover to one street. Firstly due to the length of hours you would need 2 officers on shifts. (not taking hols sickness and days off into account) Starting salary for an officer is around £19,000 and rises with experience to around £36,000 (sergeants are more) take a midway point between these 2 figures and you would end up with a wage bill for 2 officers of arond £56,000. Now that figure doesn't take into account the employers (police) National Insurance contributions, Pension contributions etc. nor does it take into account the cost of a vehicle to transport the officers from/to the location, the cost of batteries, tickets etc for doing his job. Pretty soon you could get a figure of £70 or 80,000 just to catch a few speeders down your street! Is that what you consider wise spending of public money?
I doubt if the revenue would outstrip the cost of providing police cover to one street. Firstly due to the length of hours you would need 2 officers on shifts. (not taking hols sickness and days off into account) Starting salary for an officer is around £19,000 and rises with experience to around £36,000 (sergeants are more) take a midway point between these 2 figures and you would end up with a wage bill for 2 officers of arond £56,000. Now that figure doesn't take into account the employers (police) National Insurance contributions, Pension contributions etc. nor does it take into account the cost of a vehicle to transport the officers from/to the location, the cost of batteries, tickets etc for doing his job. Pretty soon you could get a figure of £70 or 80,000 just to catch a few speeders down your street! Is that what you consider wise spending of public money? Thecynic
  • Score: 3

1:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Prob says...

Ah, a "rat-run"

aka a "public highway"

Don't want any cars down your street? Tough.
Ah, a "rat-run" aka a "public highway" Don't want any cars down your street? Tough. Prob
  • Score: 21

1:54pm Mon 18 Aug 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Seems that these so called safety vans are costing a fortune, unless they can make a shed load of bookings.
I'd rather our Police resources used to prevent burglaries, vandalism, muggings, antisocial behaviour etc.
20 mph signage was a total waste of our cash and only an idiot would have approved spending that sort of money on it.
PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles?
Seems that these so called safety vans are costing a fortune, unless they can make a shed load of bookings. I'd rather our Police resources used to prevent burglaries, vandalism, muggings, antisocial behaviour etc. 20 mph signage was a total waste of our cash and only an idiot would have approved spending that sort of money on it. PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles? ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -23

4:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

wallman says...

Mr. Hayden do you drive your car down other peoples road?
Mr. Hayden do you drive your car down other peoples road? wallman
  • Score: 18

10:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Silver says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Seems that these so called safety vans are costing a fortune, unless they can make a shed load of bookings.
I'd rather our Police resources used to prevent burglaries, vandalism, muggings, antisocial behaviour etc.
20 mph signage was a total waste of our cash and only an idiot would have approved spending that sort of money on it.
PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles?
Especially after when consulted only 7 people were in favour of the idea.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Seems that these so called safety vans are costing a fortune, unless they can make a shed load of bookings. I'd rather our Police resources used to prevent burglaries, vandalism, muggings, antisocial behaviour etc. 20 mph signage was a total waste of our cash and only an idiot would have approved spending that sort of money on it. PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles?[/p][/quote]Especially after when consulted only 7 people were in favour of the idea. Silver
  • Score: -10

11:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

tiger4 says...

Prob wrote:
Ah, a "rat-run"

aka a "public highway"

Don't want any cars down your street? Tough.
Quote-PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles?

Speed limits do not apply to cyclists only motorised vehicles, unless a local bye-law is in force
[quote][p][bold]Prob[/bold] wrote: Ah, a "rat-run" aka a "public highway" Don't want any cars down your street? Tough.[/p][/quote]Quote-PS: How many TdF riders were booked for exceeding 20 mph in the zones or would that only apply to motor vehicles? Speed limits do not apply to cyclists only motorised vehicles, unless a local bye-law is in force tiger4
  • Score: 19

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