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LAST week Labour councillors voted as one to defeat my motion on Lendal Bridge and save the jobs of Cllr Alexander and Cllr Merrett.

The result means that a number of things which should have happened have still not happened.

No Labour councillor has taken responsibility for the botched trial; no Labour councillor has apologised for it; and Labour councillors have refused to accept that motorists fined using an unlawful enforcement method should be repaid automatically.

Cllr Merrett survives in the cabinet despite saying that he would resign if the fines given to motorists were proved to have been unlawful.

Cllr Alexander survives as leader despite his failure to recognise the damage that his party’s policy has done to York’s reputation.

It was noticeable that neither man spoke in the debate to defend their policy or their actions.

The vote last night follows the vote last month when Labour councillors blocked Lib Dem calls for a full cross-party review of the trial.

Labour councillors had a chance to resolve these issues. Unfortunately, they failed to do so.

Cllr Keith Aspden, Leader of York Liberal Democrats, Heath Moor Drive, Fulford, York.

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11:07am Thu 24 Jul 14

The Great Buda says...

Labour is damaged goods, thats for sure.
Labour is damaged goods, thats for sure. The Great Buda
  • Score: 12

11:26am Thu 24 Jul 14

Zetkin says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Labour is damaged goods, thats for sure.
Very true, so thank goodness we have the prospect of a return to the golden days of the previous ConDem council to keep us going through these dark days.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Labour is damaged goods, thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Very true, so thank goodness we have the prospect of a return to the golden days of the previous ConDem council to keep us going through these dark days. Zetkin
  • Score: 8

12:08pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Jonothon says...

So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way.

I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity.
All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden.
Once bitten.....
So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way. I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity. All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden. Once bitten..... Jonothon
  • Score: 1

12:54pm Thu 24 Jul 14

bolero says...

Where do these Councillors get the neck from? I suppose we'll have to wait until May 2015 to vote them out just as we had to wait to oust Galloway and his cronies in 2011. All lacking backbone, integrity and everything else that's decent.
Where do these Councillors get the neck from? I suppose we'll have to wait until May 2015 to vote them out just as we had to wait to oust Galloway and his cronies in 2011. All lacking backbone, integrity and everything else that's decent. bolero
  • Score: 15

1:40pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Politicians and councillors.
What gall they have!

Here is Coun Aspden (LibDem) going on and on about the Labour (6 times) members not apologising or being held to account and failing to recognise their failings.

Yet I vividly and clearly remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) implementing a dangerous bus lane scheme on Fulford Rd which had to be removed after someone was seriously injured because of it.
I also remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) refusing to apologise, be held to account or recognise any failings.
He even had the arrogance to imply that it was our fault because we the people weren't clever or proficient enough to be able to use the scheme.

With all that in mind, I'm reminded why I don't trust any of 'em, whatever colour.
Most importantly, ringing out like a bell - Coun Aspden hasn't half got some neck!
Politicians and councillors. What gall they have! Here is Coun Aspden (LibDem) going on and on about the Labour (6 times) members not apologising or being held to account and failing to recognise their failings. Yet I vividly and clearly remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) implementing a dangerous bus lane scheme on Fulford Rd which had to be removed after someone was seriously injured because of it. I also remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) refusing to apologise, be held to account or recognise any failings. He even had the arrogance to imply that it was our fault because we the people weren't clever or proficient enough to be able to use the scheme. With all that in mind, I'm reminded why I don't trust any of 'em, whatever colour. Most importantly, ringing out like a bell - Coun Aspden hasn't half got some neck! Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 20

2:35pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Jonothon says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Politicians and councillors.
What gall they have!

Here is Coun Aspden (LibDem) going on and on about the Labour (6 times) members not apologising or being held to account and failing to recognise their failings.

Yet I vividly and clearly remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) implementing a dangerous bus lane scheme on Fulford Rd which had to be removed after someone was seriously injured because of it.
I also remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) refusing to apologise, be held to account or recognise any failings.
He even had the arrogance to imply that it was our fault because we the people weren't clever or proficient enough to be able to use the scheme.

With all that in mind, I'm reminded why I don't trust any of 'em, whatever colour.
Most importantly, ringing out like a bell - Coun Aspden hasn't half got some neck!
And what about the one who used an experimental traffic scheme to change all the traffic lights so as to speed her daughter's wedding party through the City.
I will never forgive them for demolishing, instead of maintaining, the swimming pool at the Barbican, an act of spite because it was a popular Labour initiative. This vindictiveness lost us an invaluable facility in the city.

It's a weed strewn wasteland now.
Thanks Steve and Sue Galloway. Thanks Cllr Aspden. We will remember.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Politicians and councillors. What gall they have! Here is Coun Aspden (LibDem) going on and on about the Labour (6 times) members not apologising or being held to account and failing to recognise their failings. Yet I vividly and clearly remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) implementing a dangerous bus lane scheme on Fulford Rd which had to be removed after someone was seriously injured because of it. I also remember Steve Galloway (LibDem) refusing to apologise, be held to account or recognise any failings. He even had the arrogance to imply that it was our fault because we the people weren't clever or proficient enough to be able to use the scheme. With all that in mind, I'm reminded why I don't trust any of 'em, whatever colour. Most importantly, ringing out like a bell - Coun Aspden hasn't half got some neck![/p][/quote]And what about the one who used an experimental traffic scheme to change all the traffic lights so as to speed her daughter's wedding party through the City. I will never forgive them for demolishing, instead of maintaining, the swimming pool at the Barbican, an act of spite because it was a popular Labour initiative. This vindictiveness lost us an invaluable facility in the city. It's a weed strewn wasteland now. Thanks Steve and Sue Galloway. Thanks Cllr Aspden. We will remember. Jonothon
  • Score: 13

3:16pm Thu 24 Jul 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Yes all very well.

The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me?
Yes all very well. The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me? TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 12

3:28pm Thu 24 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.
So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?. pedalling paul
  • Score: -8

8:10pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Silver says...

pedalling paul wrote:
So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.
Yes exactly that I'd vote for an independant it's about time we had more of them in. They actually put their money where their mouth is at the least and give a **** a lot more then the current crop
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.[/p][/quote]Yes exactly that I'd vote for an independant it's about time we had more of them in. They actually put their money where their mouth is at the least and give a **** a lot more then the current crop Silver
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Bring back the Corporation, no arguing, miss selling, no he said, they said. and no bickering like young children. Politicians are only "ME ME ME" and not the people that us, the population of York require..
Bring back the Corporation, no arguing, miss selling, no he said, they said. and no bickering like young children. Politicians are only "ME ME ME" and not the people that us, the population of York require.. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 7

9:46pm Thu 24 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.
The only way to have a regime change is to vote for either of the two main parties i.e. a conservative or a liberal candidate, by voting for an independent there is a very real danger it will allow the labour lot back in again.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.[/p][/quote]The only way to have a regime change is to vote for either of the two main parties i.e. a conservative or a liberal candidate, by voting for an independent there is a very real danger it will allow the labour lot back in again. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -3

10:41pm Thu 24 Jul 14

strangebuttrue? says...

pedalling paul wrote:
So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.
I can afford it. So maybe I will put myself up as the 'dig up the traffic lights and rub out the bus lane party'. No No better still the 'ban PP from the press letter pages and comments section' that would be an even safer bet.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: So who will you all vote in next time round? Anyone with long memories recall any local furores when the Tories last held sway? Maybe more Independents if they can afford to stump up the deposit and canvassing expenses?.[/p][/quote]I can afford it. So maybe I will put myself up as the 'dig up the traffic lights and rub out the bus lane party'. No No better still the 'ban PP from the press letter pages and comments section' that would be an even safer bet. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 7

8:56am Fri 25 Jul 14

julia brica says...

Jonothon wrote:
So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way.

I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity.
All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden.
Once bitten.....
Well put Jonothon. That is an awful lot of voters who will remember the turncoat Clegg when the time comes.
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way. I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity. All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden. Once bitten.....[/p][/quote]Well put Jonothon. That is an awful lot of voters who will remember the turncoat Clegg when the time comes. julia brica
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Jonothon says...

TheTruthHurts wrote:
Yes all very well.

The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me?
I don't think that is true TruthHurts, please provide a link
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: Yes all very well. The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me?[/p][/quote]I don't think that is true TruthHurts, please provide a link Jonothon
  • Score: 2

12:11am Sat 26 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

Jonothon wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote:
Yes all very well.

The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me?
I don't think that is true TruthHurts, please provide a link
What about
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-yor
k-north-yorkshire-26
900594

The direct quote in this article:
Mr Merrett told BBC Radio York: "Yes, I accept that at the end of the day that if we've got it wrong to that extent that I'd have to resign."

Unless you accuse the BBC lying?
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: Yes all very well. The difference being that Councillor Merret said on TV that he would have no choice but to resign if the fines were found to be unlawful...... Seems quite black and white to me?[/p][/quote]I don't think that is true TruthHurts, please provide a link[/p][/quote]What about http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-yor k-north-yorkshire-26 900594 The direct quote in this article: Mr Merrett told BBC Radio York: "Yes, I accept that at the end of the day that if we've got it wrong to that extent that I'd have to resign." Unless you accuse the BBC lying? AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -3

12:22am Sat 26 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

Jonothon wrote:
So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way.

I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity.
All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden.
Once bitten.....
It seems a common tactic to accuse someone else of also making mistakes. This just attempts to deflect the criticism. It doesn't excuse Alexander and Merrett for the fiasco that was and is - Lendal Bridge.

If either had any bottle they wouldn't have waited for the opposition to table such a motion. They would have resigned and apologised to York's residents for costing York's residents somuch money. After all, didn't Merrett suggest he would resign if he was wrong? See previous comment from myself above.
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: So the Labour Councillors as one. What a shock, I presume that means that means that Mr Aspden fellow Lib-Dems did not all vote the same way. I remember that the Lib-Dem MP's all voted the same way for a copper-bottomed promise on not raising student fees, and then reneged on it at the very first opportunity. All the tens of thousands of votes from students and their parents in support of this policy were fraudulently obtained. You wont' be seeing those voters again Mr Aspden. Once bitten.....[/p][/quote]It seems a common tactic to accuse someone else of also making mistakes. This just attempts to deflect the criticism. It doesn't excuse Alexander and Merrett for the fiasco that was and is - Lendal Bridge. If either had any bottle they wouldn't have waited for the opposition to table such a motion. They would have resigned and apologised to York's residents for costing York's residents somuch money. After all, didn't Merrett suggest he would resign if he was wrong? See previous comment from myself above. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -2

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