All abusers should be investigated

York Press: Rolf Harris who was jailed yesterday for five years Rolf Harris who was jailed yesterday for five years

WHILE I have no sympathy for the disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris, I wonder how many of his victims would have come forward if he was not in the public eye, or how would the police and prosecution services have acted if he wasn’t famous?

Indecent assault, sexual abuse and inappropriate behaviour towards children is a blight on our society. For years it has been cloaked by familial bonds which have sought to ‘normalise’ this diabolical behaviour.

The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities.

The pain and hurt of a child who has been abused should not be graded by the notoriety of the abuser.

Martin Rowley, Broughton Way, Osbaldwick, York.

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4:10pm Sat 5 Jul 14

wildthing666 says...

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with these celebrity prosecutions, many much more well known people are involved and should be prosecuted, even if they just tried to hide it from the public they should be prosecuted just the same. You would see MP's, MEP's, & lords on trial and convicted.
We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with these celebrity prosecutions, many much more well known people are involved and should be prosecuted, even if they just tried to hide it from the public they should be prosecuted just the same. You would see MP's, MEP's, & lords on trial and convicted. wildthing666
  • Score: 8

5:49pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

"The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities."

Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
"The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 7

7:19pm Sat 5 Jul 14

bolero says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
"The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities."

Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing. bolero
  • Score: -2

10:35pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Omega Point says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
"The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities."

Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
So most of the thousands referred to are Catholic priests you say. I am no apologist for them or any other group but that comment is stupid in the xtreme
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]So most of the thousands referred to are Catholic priests you say. I am no apologist for them or any other group but that comment is stupid in the xtreme Omega Point
  • Score: -2

10:38pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

bolero wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
"The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities."

Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.
Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/radio4/today/report
s/archive/features/p
aedophile_priests.sh
tml
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/world/
europe/united-nation
s-blasts-vatican-for
-failing-to-protect-
children-from-paedop
hile-priests-9065135
.html
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.[/p][/quote]Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html Pinza-C55
  • Score: 0

10:59pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Mentos says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
bolero wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.
Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html
You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.[/p][/quote]Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html[/p][/quote]You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT Mentos
  • Score: -2

11:08pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Kohelet says...

I think Pinsa comment was as they say a throw-away-line or tongue in cheek. Hope so
I think Pinsa comment was as they say a throw-away-line or tongue in cheek. Hope so Kohelet
  • Score: -2

11:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

wallman says...

it was hidden too long by people in high places who didnt want their lives looked at
it was hidden too long by people in high places who didnt want their lives looked at wallman
  • Score: 3

11:23pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Mentos wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
bolero wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.
Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html
You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT
It was a joke but I would take from the po faced and uptight responses here that I have offended some Catholics.
So what.
[quote][p][bold]Mentos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.[/p][/quote]Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html[/p][/quote]You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT[/p][/quote]It was a joke but I would take from the po faced and uptight responses here that I have offended some Catholics. So what. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 4

11:29pm Sat 5 Jul 14

bolero says...

Pinza C-55 gives the distinct impression that he has knowledge of certain culprits and it is, therefore, incumbent upon him to report these individuals to the authorities. It was knowledge of this nature and failure to speak out that led to the proliferation of this type of crime. This amounts to a direct allegation or casting suspicion on innocent people. I am aware that there were/are culprits in all walks of life but this sort of finger pointing is dangerous and an affront to those who suffered at the hands of these individuals. I suggest he either withdraws his statement or do the right thing in the interest of those who have suffered or are still suffering as a result of these actions. I am not a catholic nor an apologist but believe in truth and justice.
Pinza C-55 gives the distinct impression that he has knowledge of certain culprits and it is, therefore, incumbent upon him to report these individuals to the authorities. It was knowledge of this nature and failure to speak out that led to the proliferation of this type of crime. This amounts to a direct allegation or casting suspicion on innocent people. I am aware that there were/are culprits in all walks of life but this sort of finger pointing is dangerous and an affront to those who suffered at the hands of these individuals. I suggest he either withdraws his statement or do the right thing in the interest of those who have suffered or are still suffering as a result of these actions. I am not a catholic nor an apologist but believe in truth and justice. bolero
  • Score: -5

8:53am Sun 6 Jul 14

Omega Point says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Mentos wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
bolero wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.
If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.
Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html
You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT
It was a joke but I would take from the po faced and uptight responses here that I have offended some Catholics. So what.
I am not a Catholic. To say it was a joke is a cop out, you do not even have the maturity just to admit this. Abuse is a serious issue and your prejudical levity is misplaced.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mentos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: "The fact is that there are probably thousands of men and women who are at large in Britain today who deserve the same scrupulous investigation as happened to Rolf Harris and other celebrities." Yes, and most of them are Catholic priests.[/p][/quote]If you know them, then name them. Otherwise you are no better than the rest who knew and said nothing.[/p][/quote]Oh you silly Billy, I don't know them personally but here are a couple of stories for you to read http://www.bbc.co.uk /radio4/today/report s/archive/features/p aedophile_priests.sh tml http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/world/ europe/united-nation s-blasts-vatican-for -failing-to-protect- children-from-paedop hile-priests-9065135 .html[/p][/quote]You being silly. Teachers, childrens home workers, scout leaders and numerous other working groups of people are coming to light. You suggested that of the "thousands" out there most are catholic priests. Your statement is daft given the relative low numbers of priests as a working group compared to others. Just be big and admit that statement was plain OTT[/p][/quote]It was a joke but I would take from the po faced and uptight responses here that I have offended some Catholics. So what.[/p][/quote]I am not a Catholic. To say it was a joke is a cop out, you do not even have the maturity just to admit this. Abuse is a serious issue and your prejudical levity is misplaced. Omega Point
  • Score: 0

11:35pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

I don't think this letter would pass a Turing test.
I don't think this letter would pass a Turing test. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -4

10:19am Mon 7 Jul 14

julia brica says...

Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring.
Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing.
I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.
Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring. Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing. I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides. julia brica
  • Score: 3

12:35pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

julia brica wrote:
Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring.
Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing.
I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.
I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light.
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring. Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing. I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.[/p][/quote]I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Mon 7 Jul 14

bolero says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring.
Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing.
I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.
I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light.
Be careful, the authorities will be confiscating your autograph book.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring. Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing. I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.[/p][/quote]I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light.[/p][/quote]Be careful, the authorities will be confiscating your autograph book. bolero
  • Score: -3

9:10pm Mon 7 Jul 14

julia brica says...

bolero wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring.
Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing.
I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.
I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light.
Be careful, the authorities will be confiscating your autograph book.
Are you suggesting Devil woman has gone for a summer holiday ?
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Well its obvious now with todays headlines that this thing goes way deeper than any NORMAL person could possibly imagine with even Lord Tebbitt throwing his hat into the ring. Anyone can google Elm Guest House Barnes and the names and the practises that come up are astonishing. I think the equivalent of an atom bomb going off is about to hit the establishment and a few more famous names besides.[/p][/quote]I think at least one Batchelor Boy will have to Move It before his connection with The Young Ones comes fully to light.[/p][/quote]Be careful, the authorities will be confiscating your autograph book.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting Devil woman has gone for a summer holiday ? julia brica
  • Score: -2
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