Confusion over Park&Ride service

York Press: One of the new Park&Ride electric buses at the Askham Bar site One of the new Park&Ride electric buses at the Askham Bar site

IN REPLY to Barrie Pawson’s letter of June 23. The point I was trying to make in my letter of June 19 was that all Park&Ride services should have a starting point and a turn-round point with no stops en route making, it a purely Park&Ride service then there would be no confusion about when and where they do not stop.

His remarks about people “who have a perfectly good service on the same route” does not apply everywhere.

Passengers in the Holly Bank district of York have an hourly service to get them to and from the city centre. Getting there is no problem, you plan your journey accordingly. But sometimes an hour in town is not enough and two hours is too long so, like my wife, people try to get a bus to the nearest point to home, in our case Watson Street or The Fox.

From either place we are faced with a long walk to our homes. Not everyone has a well-served route.

A P Cox, Heath Close, Holgate, York.

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9:52pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bicky98 says...

The 59 only stops at one stop outside the City Centre to/from Poppleton Bar and this gives that stop a 10 minute frequency rather than 30 minutes for the 10 and if your a resdient you'll know where it stops as if yours local stop then there you go you've at good service and for the 9 that stops at one stop where that is the main only service as they is only 1 journey on 181 that goes via Malton Road instead of Woodlands Grove and the 16A on Sundays which stops on the other side and is a a poor route anyway, the 7 Stops at every stop due to no other First York buse running Via Fulford which is abit poor as the 7 gets busy on a morning into York but really its not an issue as they is a 415 every 15 mins, 26 every 30, 27 every 60 mins and 42 every 60 mins all of these are Arriva so First have no Gap for another service as its not needed and these are cheaper than the 7 anyway also the additon of a 42-2 every 2 hours or so. The 8 Stops at Badger Hill as its main stop for passengers but they is a 10 every 30 and then a X46 every hour and and X4 every 2-3 and a 747 3 times a day. The 3 is the only main direct one apart from Stopping at Tesco but thats obvious why it does that and it only stops there on the way into York if the bus has room anyway as they is 12 every 30. 2 Also stops at 4 Stops into York one after P&R as it just does but they is a frequent Reliance 30 there and then stops at Homestead Park which is a park so there you go and then Sailsbury Road as before the 5 went Via Leeman Rd 2 was only service but again they is a reliance bus and the NRM but this is tourist and tourist use the P&R. P&R don't really stop at many stops just the 7 as its the only First Fulford bus.
The 59 only stops at one stop outside the City Centre to/from Poppleton Bar and this gives that stop a 10 minute frequency rather than 30 minutes for the 10 and if your a resdient you'll know where it stops as if yours local stop then there you go you've at good service and for the 9 that stops at one stop where that is the main only service as they is only 1 journey on 181 that goes via Malton Road instead of Woodlands Grove and the 16A on Sundays which stops on the other side and is a a poor route anyway, the 7 Stops at every stop due to no other First York buse running Via Fulford which is abit poor as the 7 gets busy on a morning into York but really its not an issue as they is a 415 every 15 mins, 26 every 30, 27 every 60 mins and 42 every 60 mins all of these are Arriva so First have no Gap for another service as its not needed and these are cheaper than the 7 anyway also the additon of a 42-2 every 2 hours or so. The 8 Stops at Badger Hill as its main stop for passengers but they is a 10 every 30 and then a X46 every hour and and X4 every 2-3 and a 747 3 times a day. The 3 is the only main direct one apart from Stopping at Tesco but thats obvious why it does that and it only stops there on the way into York if the bus has room anyway as they is 12 every 30. 2 Also stops at 4 Stops into York one after P&R as it just does but they is a frequent Reliance 30 there and then stops at Homestead Park which is a park so there you go and then Sailsbury Road as before the 5 went Via Leeman Rd 2 was only service but again they is a reliance bus and the NRM but this is tourist and tourist use the P&R. P&R don't really stop at many stops just the 7 as its the only First Fulford bus. bicky98
  • Score: -3

11:57am Fri 27 Jun 14

Dave Ruddock says...

one for the operators and whoever thought of the names of these place names, IN WHAT CONTEXT DOES THE WORD "BAR" REFLECT, Public Bar (Pub), A obstacle (Barrier) or some other (Yet unknown use of the word Bar)
As for the Bus Stops, some of the "Park and Ride" routes have stops some dont, some have diesel powered buses and then the Electric buses, some stop at "Bus Stops" and others, as stated Just Pick Up and Drop Off .

Seems its First York are Confusion York in partnership with Alexander the dis functional.
one for the operators and whoever thought of the names of these place names, IN WHAT CONTEXT DOES THE WORD "BAR" REFLECT, Public Bar (Pub), A obstacle (Barrier) or some other (Yet unknown use of the word Bar) As for the Bus Stops, some of the "Park and Ride" routes have stops some dont, some have diesel powered buses and then the Electric buses, some stop at "Bus Stops" and others, as stated Just Pick Up and Drop Off . Seems its First York are Confusion York in partnership with Alexander the dis functional. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 2

4:45am Sat 28 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

The problem with the Holly Bank area is it seems to be full of moaners who didn't like it when there wasn't a bus service, so they made loads of complaints and got a bus service... and then they didn't bother to use the bus when there was a half-hourly service (first the 16, then later on it was the 5, now the 13A).

Sunday buses through Holly Bank are 'well used' if there is ONE passenger who boards or alights there! If you want more regular buses, you could rally the local community around so that they actually support the bus service, thereby making it economically viable to run more buses. That's what has happened in Cawood - and now Arriva's number 42 is run without subsidy on sundays.
The problem with the Holly Bank area is it seems to be full of moaners who didn't like it when there wasn't a bus service, so they made loads of complaints and got a bus service... and then they didn't bother to use the bus when there was a half-hourly service (first the 16, then later on it was the 5, now the 13A). Sunday buses through Holly Bank are 'well used' if there is ONE passenger who boards or alights there! If you want more regular buses, you could rally the local community around so that they actually support the bus service, thereby making it economically viable to run more buses. That's what has happened in Cawood - and now Arriva's number 42 is run without subsidy on sundays. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

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