Why Trump is right on wind farms

Why Trump is right on wind farms

Why Trump is right on wind farms

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THE proposals to place wind farms on the Wolds and by our own council are very sad. I would like to refer to an article from the Daily Telegraph of April 2012 with regards to the situation in Scotland.

The newspaper reported that Alex Salmond wanted to generate the equivalent of 100 per cent of Scotland’s electricity from renewable sources by 2020, a target that council planning chiefs warned could mean the countryside being transformed into a “wind farm landscape”.

The billionaire US tycoon Donald Trump claimed to have received thousands of letters from people whose homes had been “ruined” by nearby turbines but were outraged than SNP ministers were refusing to listen to them.

He said it was “self- evident” how tourists will react to a plethora of wind farms – “they will hate it and go elsewhere”.

Mr Trump makes his living from tourism at his hotels and I would presume he knows what he is talking about.

Also one other factor. For every one turbine placed offshore, where they should be, you need two similar ones onshore to generate the same level of energy supply.

Bribing people with their own tax money to accept wind turbines seems dishonest to me, and local villages don’t want these farms.

If the council is setting up its own energy supply company, however, I will be a customer.

Chris Clayton, Hempland Drive, York.

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1:29pm Fri 20 Jun 14

NickPheas says...

Though don't forget that quite a lot of people find them strangely beautiful. I'd certainly rather have wind farms on the hills than mine heads and slag heaps.
Though don't forget that quite a lot of people find them strangely beautiful. I'd certainly rather have wind farms on the hills than mine heads and slag heaps. NickPheas
  • Score: 14

1:29pm Fri 20 Jun 14

The Great Buda says...

Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump. You're going to need a better example than him.
Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump. You're going to need a better example than him. The Great Buda
  • Score: 19

3:23pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Jonothon says...

Donald Trump is widely reviled as a right wing racist in his native USA. On one occasion Trump intervened in a rape case by taking out full page adverts calling for the death penalty for the young black suspects who were then in custody. Soon afterwards evidence emerged that the young men were totally innocent of the charge that Trump would have had them put to death for.

If I were making out a case against wind farms, I would not invoke the spirit of Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is widely reviled as a right wing racist in his native USA. On one occasion Trump intervened in a rape case by taking out full page adverts calling for the death penalty for the young black suspects who were then in custody. Soon afterwards evidence emerged that the young men were totally innocent of the charge that Trump would have had them put to death for. If I were making out a case against wind farms, I would not invoke the spirit of Donald Trump. Jonothon
  • Score: 16

4:36pm Fri 20 Jun 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

An independent Scotland would be broke and in the dark in no time.

We pay £38 Million a year to the queen in sea bed rent for off shore turbines. But these things have a very short life due to salt corrosion and very difficult to maintain.

We can't afford inefficient windmills, as simple as that.
An independent Scotland would be broke and in the dark in no time. We pay £38 Million a year to the queen in sea bed rent for off shore turbines. But these things have a very short life due to salt corrosion and very difficult to maintain. We can't afford inefficient windmills, as simple as that. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -9

5:43pm Fri 20 Jun 14

cbeebies says...

I think the corrosion problem is exaggerated. The oil rigs have been sitting in the North Sea for decades so the technical problems must have been overcome.
I think the corrosion problem is exaggerated. The oil rigs have been sitting in the North Sea for decades so the technical problems must have been overcome. cbeebies
  • Score: 9

6:47pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either.
Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 6

8:34pm Fri 20 Jun 14

nowthen says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either.
I wouldn't categorize someone I didn't like or didn't agree with as less than human , didn't millions die in the last war fighting a regime with that mindset ?
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't categorize someone I didn't like or didn't agree with as less than human , didn't millions die in the last war fighting a regime with that mindset ? nowthen
  • Score: -5

11:22pm Fri 20 Jun 14

wallman says...

buzz are you jealous of mr trump because he has a lot of money?
buzz are you jealous of mr trump because he has a lot of money? wallman
  • Score: -8

12:46am Sat 21 Jun 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

cbeebies: Oil rigs and wind turbines are not the same thing at all.

An oil rig has a crew on board to maintain it, a wind turbine does not.
The main working parts of an oil rig (The Drill) is underground and not subject to salt air and oxidisation, as does the wind turbine!

Corrosion is not exaggerated but the reason for having turbines is very much exaggerated.
cbeebies: Oil rigs and wind turbines are not the same thing at all. An oil rig has a crew on board to maintain it, a wind turbine does not. The main working parts of an oil rig (The Drill) is underground and not subject to salt air and oxidisation, as does the wind turbine! Corrosion is not exaggerated but the reason for having turbines is very much exaggerated. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -3

8:52am Sat 21 Jun 14

cbeebies says...

The corrosion on oil rigs is stopped by using a zinc sacrificial anode on the steel structures, so seems relevant to me.
The corrosion on oil rigs is stopped by using a zinc sacrificial anode on the steel structures, so seems relevant to me. cbeebies
  • Score: 5

10:05am Sat 21 Jun 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

nowthen wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either.
I wouldn't categorize someone I didn't like or didn't agree with as less than human , didn't millions die in the last war fighting a regime with that mindset ?
Different mindset.
And semi-Godwin's.

When I say "less than human" I don't mean dumb or **** or ape-like, I mean they behave with little humanity, they show little humility, lack compassion and have difficulty understanding their fellows.
All of those qualities make us the beautiful humans we are and truly set us apart as something special.
Donald Trump has a well known history of lacking humanity.
[quote][p][bold]nowthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Donald Trump is a disgusting less-than-human. I wouldn't use him as an example either.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't categorize someone I didn't like or didn't agree with as less than human , didn't millions die in the last war fighting a regime with that mindset ?[/p][/quote]Different mindset. And semi-Godwin's. When I say "less than human" I don't mean dumb or **** or ape-like, I mean they behave with little humanity, they show little humility, lack compassion and have difficulty understanding their fellows. All of those qualities make us the beautiful humans we are and truly set us apart as something special. Donald Trump has a well known history of lacking humanity. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 5

10:07am Sat 21 Jun 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

wallman wrote:
buzz are you jealous of mr trump because he has a lot of money?
No. I have plenty.
Donald Trump is one of the last people in the world I would be jealous of.
This isn't about money.
[quote][p][bold]wallman[/bold] wrote: buzz are you jealous of mr trump because he has a lot of money?[/p][/quote]No. I have plenty. Donald Trump is one of the last people in the world I would be jealous of. This isn't about money. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 5

11:45am Sat 21 Jun 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

cbeebies: It's not the structure but the mechanical parts subject to corrosion, especially the gear box. Not easy to replace on land, never mind at sea!
cbeebies: It's not the structure but the mechanical parts subject to corrosion, especially the gear box. Not easy to replace on land, never mind at sea! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -7

12:07pm Sat 21 Jun 14

cbeebies says...

Nevertheless, great technical strides have been made in gear box corrosion as can be seen from a search. And they continue to be made. Clearly it is in the interest of the operator to recoup his investment so they will use state of the art technology, however I will concede that some of the early EU offshore wind farms will not be as good as those on the drawing books.
Nevertheless, great technical strides have been made in gear box corrosion as can be seen from a search. And they continue to be made. Clearly it is in the interest of the operator to recoup his investment so they will use state of the art technology, however I will concede that some of the early EU offshore wind farms will not be as good as those on the drawing books. cbeebies
  • Score: 5

6:27pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Pinza-C55 says...

No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ?
No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ? Pinza-C55
  • Score: -1

2:16pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Jonothon says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ?
In the case of Trump, they are not ad homs, they are accurate character assessments. We are not talking normal bloke.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ?[/p][/quote]In the case of Trump, they are not ad homs, they are accurate character assessments. We are not talking normal bloke. Jonothon
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Jonothon wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ?
In the case of Trump, they are not ad homs, they are accurate character assessments. We are not talking normal bloke.
So let's leave aside the character assessments, what are the coherent arguments?
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: No fan of Trump at all but it seems to me there are a lot of Ad Hominems here but very few coherent arguments ?[/p][/quote]In the case of Trump, they are not ad homs, they are accurate character assessments. We are not talking normal bloke.[/p][/quote]So let's leave aside the character assessments, what are the coherent arguments? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 0

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