Alter the lights

York Press: Alter the lights Alter the lights

IN The Press of April 26, Councillor David Levene says there is still a need to tackle congestion after the reopening of Lendal Bridge.

Can I suggest that he takes a look at the streets that have been closed to through traffic over recent years? By closing these streets, traffic has been concentrated in other areas, causing congestion. Why should some people have a traffic-free environment and leave others with more traffic, more congestion and more pollution?

Can I also suggest that if he is serious about traffic flow, he checks traffic light sequences. We have lots of sites where traffic lights change to red, stopping the flow of traffic when there is no other traffic in sight.

We also have lots of places where a green man appears when no pedestrians are in sight and no one has pushed a button, again stopping the flow of traffic.

A P Cox, Heath Close, Holgate, York.

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1:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

courier46 says...

Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads.
Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads. courier46
  • Score: -18

3:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

courier46 wrote:
Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads.
Foot in both camps eh...!
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads.[/p][/quote]Foot in both camps eh...! pedalling paul
  • Score: 11

4:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Dr Robert says...

Well said Mr Cox, this is just another labour councillor about to shoot himself in the foot, look at the mess Wiggington road became after the connecting streets to Haxby road were bollarded off. Bishophill, another no go area when York Council decided to put a rising bollard stopping access through Victoria Bar and channelling everything along Nunnery and Prices Lane, this manmade congestion is replicated all over York by people with nothing better to do, the Political Party that frees up York again by getting rid off chicanes, humps and bollards will be onto a winner.
Well said Mr Cox, this is just another labour councillor about to shoot himself in the foot, look at the mess Wiggington road became after the connecting streets to Haxby road were bollarded off. Bishophill, another no go area when York Council decided to put a rising bollard stopping access through Victoria Bar and channelling everything along Nunnery and Prices Lane, this manmade congestion is replicated all over York by people with nothing better to do, the Political Party that frees up York again by getting rid off chicanes, humps and bollards will be onto a winner. Dr Robert
  • Score: -16

5:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

If they really want to tackle congestion why don't they issue us all with free packets of Tunes ?
If they really want to tackle congestion why don't they issue us all with free packets of Tunes ? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

6:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

courier46 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
courier46 wrote:
Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads.
Foot in both camps eh...!
I was making the point that why do some people think they have the right to there road be closed to through traffic,we all would like it so, but the car is here to stay and ALL roads should be opened.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: Well said,i would love my street to be closed to through traffic and agree that more routes open eases other roads.[/p][/quote]Foot in both camps eh...![/p][/quote]I was making the point that why do some people think they have the right to there road be closed to through traffic,we all would like it so, but the car is here to stay and ALL roads should be opened. courier46
  • Score: -14

7:55pm Tue 29 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

Noticed Bootham was back to its usual congestion again today. Sigh.
Noticed Bootham was back to its usual congestion again today. Sigh. CaroleBaines
  • Score: -6

10:14pm Tue 29 Apr 14

wallman says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
Noticed Bootham was back to its usual congestion again today. Sigh.
its a road people are allowed to drive down it get a live or go and live somewhere else but stop complaining about other people in york
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Noticed Bootham was back to its usual congestion again today. Sigh.[/p][/quote]its a road people are allowed to drive down it get a live or go and live somewhere else but stop complaining about other people in york wallman
  • Score: 5

3:43am Wed 30 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

I agree with the second half of the letter, about poor traffic light timings.

Whilst waiting near the rail station for somebody to get off a night train recently, I was stood at the corner of Station Avenue, Lendal Bridge, and Rougier Street at about 2am - the dead of night, and it wasn't even a club night so the streets were dead. The traffic light for vehicles coming from station avenue onto Lendal Bridge was green, it remained green for quite a long while - then I could hear a white vauxhall van come from the rail station, it got to the corner of Station Avenue (by where coaches pull in to the layby area), and at that very point the traffic light for going on to Lendal bridge went RED. Why? to put on a green man pedestrian phase... at 2am, where the only pedestrian around was me and I was nowhere near the crossing, on a junction where that traffic light controls the only access onto the bridge from the station area.

If you're going to have traffic lights in York that give out pedestrian phases on a timer and not demand-responsive then you might as well rip out all the "wait" push button boxes; and seeing as at least 60% of York's traffic lights have broken sensors (either radar sensors above the traffic light heads, or loop sensors buried in the road surface), money could have been saved by never fitting those sensors in the first place. The only reason such equipment is there is clearly for the sole purpose of box-ticking.

Oh, but apparently York has some 'smart' system called SCOOT that eases traffic flow around the city. Yes, that's why a traffic light goes red for the only car around for a mile radius in the middle of the night.
I agree with the second half of the letter, about poor traffic light timings. Whilst waiting near the rail station for somebody to get off a night train recently, I was stood at the corner of Station Avenue, Lendal Bridge, and Rougier Street at about 2am - the dead of night, and it wasn't even a club night so the streets were dead. The traffic light for vehicles coming from station avenue onto Lendal Bridge was green, it remained green for quite a long while - then I could hear a white vauxhall van come from the rail station, it got to the corner of Station Avenue (by where coaches pull in to the layby area), and at that very point the traffic light for going on to Lendal bridge went RED. Why? to put on a green man pedestrian phase... at 2am, where the only pedestrian around was me and I was nowhere near the crossing, on a junction where that traffic light controls the only access onto the bridge from the station area. If you're going to have traffic lights in York that give out pedestrian phases on a timer and not demand-responsive then you might as well rip out all the "wait" push button boxes; and seeing as at least 60% of York's traffic lights have broken sensors (either radar sensors above the traffic light heads, or loop sensors buried in the road surface), money could have been saved by never fitting those sensors in the first place. The only reason such equipment is there is clearly for the sole purpose of box-ticking. Oh, but apparently York has some 'smart' system called SCOOT that eases traffic flow around the city. Yes, that's why a traffic light goes red for the only car around for a mile radius in the middle of the night. Magicman!
  • Score: 7

10:49am Wed 30 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

I used to regularly drive through York in the very early hours during the period when the new traffic light system was introduced. The noticeable difference was before it was introduced the lights went green as you approached. After it was introduced they went red as you approached. There were never any other vehicles around and I just had to sit and wait for nothing and that is how it still is today. I am always surprised so few people notice this.
I used to regularly drive through York in the very early hours during the period when the new traffic light system was introduced. The noticeable difference was before it was introduced the lights went green as you approached. After it was introduced they went red as you approached. There were never any other vehicles around and I just had to sit and wait for nothing and that is how it still is today. I am always surprised so few people notice this. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 5

2:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Tonymozzer says...

Why not adopt the systems used abroad where all traffic lights are switched to flashing amber after the busy times?
Why not adopt the systems used abroad where all traffic lights are switched to flashing amber after the busy times? Tonymozzer
  • Score: 3

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