Better closed

Better closed

Better closed

First published in Letters by

AS A York resident and a motorist, I am sorry that Lendal Bridge is not to remain closed.

If anyone would like to start an online petition to keep it closed, I would be happy to sign it and so would many other motorists I know. The closure did not deter me from visiting York city centre which I love and visit frequently.

The closure was a civilising policy, which must have been welcomed by many people of all political persuasions. There are too many moaning, lazy people around who would benefit from using their legs a bit more.

Rod Bell, Askham Lane, Acomb, York.

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1:38pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Stevie D says...

This is bluddy brilliant! For nine months, The Press has published a hundred letters, articles, columns and editorials (no matter how rabid or lunatic) a day slating the bridge closure and demanding that it be reopened immediately.

Now as soon as the closure has been reversed and the bridge reopened, we've got an entire edition full of people saying they wanted the bridge to stay closed.

Just goes to show what a manipulative media can achieve...
This is bluddy brilliant! For nine months, The Press has published a hundred letters, articles, columns and editorials (no matter how rabid or lunatic) a day slating the bridge closure and demanding that it be reopened immediately. Now as soon as the closure has been reversed and the bridge reopened, we've got an entire edition full of people saying they wanted the bridge to stay closed. Just goes to show what a manipulative media can achieve... Stevie D
  • Score: 13

2:04pm Tue 15 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?.
Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way.
Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won.
Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?. Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way. Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Tue 15 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please.
A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 1

2:16pm Tue 15 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please.
What was this then?

"There are too many moaning, lazy people around who would benefit from using their legs a bit more"
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please.[/p][/quote]What was this then? "There are too many moaning, lazy people around who would benefit from using their legs a bit more" strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 12

3:23pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Mean Mr Mustard says...

I'd love to use my legs more, but unfortunately, every day I have to deliver one and a half tonnes of goods all over the city, covering about 80 miles. Even though I am not a motorist making an unnecessary journey, I didn't have a "magic" pass to get me over the bridge, making my job very much harder, and helping to exacerbate increased congestion elsewhere. Or perhaps when you buy a sofa, fridge or washing machine you carry them home under your arm? Or on your bike?

I suppose I am just a moaning, lazy person...
I'd love to use my legs more, but unfortunately, every day I have to deliver one and a half tonnes of goods all over the city, covering about 80 miles. Even though I am not a motorist making an unnecessary journey, I didn't have a "magic" pass to get me over the bridge, making my job very much harder, and helping to exacerbate increased congestion elsewhere. Or perhaps when you buy a sofa, fridge or washing machine you carry them home under your arm? Or on your bike? I suppose I am just a moaning, lazy person... Mean Mr Mustard
  • Score: 11

3:53pm Tue 15 Apr 14

wallman says...

Mr Mustard the letter writer and the waste of space carolbaines talk a total load of rubbish not understanding road usage
Mr Mustard the letter writer and the waste of space carolbaines talk a total load of rubbish not understanding road usage wallman
  • Score: -10

4:41pm Tue 15 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please.
What was this then?

"There are too many moaning, lazy people around who would benefit from using their legs a bit more"
True. I never pay to park in York, there is free parking within 15 mins walk of the city centre from just about all directions. Okay - some people are disabled, some are making or collecting heavy goods, but you must admit there are a load of folk who just don't seem to accept the concept of walking. Much less hassle, cheaper and very often, quicker too!
I remember living decades ago on Severus Street and being amazed that people would block the junction to use the HSBC cashpoint rather than walk literally about 20 yards. This has not changed imho.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: A sensible letter. Note lack of frothing, ranting, hyperbole, or use of words relating to stooges, Politburos or anything being 'disgusting'. Just an opinion, calmly stated and well backed up. More like this please.[/p][/quote]What was this then? "There are too many moaning, lazy people around who would benefit from using their legs a bit more"[/p][/quote]True. I never pay to park in York, there is free parking within 15 mins walk of the city centre from just about all directions. Okay - some people are disabled, some are making or collecting heavy goods, but you must admit there are a load of folk who just don't seem to accept the concept of walking. Much less hassle, cheaper and very often, quicker too! I remember living decades ago on Severus Street and being amazed that people would block the junction to use the HSBC cashpoint rather than walk literally about 20 yards. This has not changed imho. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 4

6:21pm Tue 15 Apr 14

wallman says...

decades ago? was there a cash point there then?
decades ago? was there a cash point there then? wallman
  • Score: -3

6:49pm Tue 15 Apr 14

The OX says...

T@sser lol
T@sser lol The OX
  • Score: -2

7:10pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Mean Mr Mustard says...

I remember the cashpoint at the HSBC (or Midland Bank as it was then) Severus Street in about 1980!
I remember the cashpoint at the HSBC (or Midland Bank as it was then) Severus Street in about 1980! Mean Mr Mustard
  • Score: 8

7:12pm Tue 15 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
I remember the cashpoint at the HSBC (or Midland Bank as it was then) Severus Street in about 1980!
Yes. Correct.
[quote][p][bold]Mean Mr Mustard[/bold] wrote: I remember the cashpoint at the HSBC (or Midland Bank as it was then) Severus Street in about 1980![/p][/quote]Yes. Correct. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 6

10:35pm Tue 15 Apr 14

DavidMaughan says...

Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again.
Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again. DavidMaughan
  • Score: 0

4:01am Wed 16 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Stevie D wrote:
This is bluddy brilliant! For nine months, The Press has published a hundred letters, articles, columns and editorials (no matter how rabid or lunatic) a day slating the bridge closure and demanding that it be reopened immediately.

Now as soon as the closure has been reversed and the bridge reopened, we've got an entire edition full of people saying they wanted the bridge to stay closed.

Just goes to show what a manipulative media can achieve...
Funny... I was going down the list of letters and was thinking exactly the same thing.

I thought that news outlets were supposed to be 'liberal' and unbiased.... voicing just what goes on complete with a balanced viewpoint from either side.
[quote][p][bold]Stevie D[/bold] wrote: This is bluddy brilliant! For nine months, The Press has published a hundred letters, articles, columns and editorials (no matter how rabid or lunatic) a day slating the bridge closure and demanding that it be reopened immediately. Now as soon as the closure has been reversed and the bridge reopened, we've got an entire edition full of people saying they wanted the bridge to stay closed. Just goes to show what a manipulative media can achieve...[/p][/quote]Funny... I was going down the list of letters and was thinking exactly the same thing. I thought that news outlets were supposed to be 'liberal' and unbiased.... voicing just what goes on complete with a balanced viewpoint from either side. Magicman!
  • Score: -1

4:03am Wed 16 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?.
Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way.
Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won.
Wow, you must have a short memory... I've brought up this 'silent majority' thing before, and brought up the mess that the motoring brigade stirred up when it came to Water End. I'm not going to repeat myself again, as I think I'd just be wasting my time... might as well go and talk to a sheet of plasterboard.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?. Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way. Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won.[/p][/quote]Wow, you must have a short memory... I've brought up this 'silent majority' thing before, and brought up the mess that the motoring brigade stirred up when it came to Water End. I'm not going to repeat myself again, as I think I'd just be wasting my time... might as well go and talk to a sheet of plasterboard. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

4:06am Wed 16 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

DavidMaughan wrote:
Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again.
Be aware that people can make up a new name and put down a mobile phone number as their contact details when writing a letter to the Press.... all those letters saying "we won't return" all looked suspiciously similar - too similar to have been written by completely different people who have never met before; far more likely to have been clone letters trying to get the motoring lobby's views across.
[quote][p][bold]DavidMaughan[/bold] wrote: Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again.[/p][/quote]Be aware that people can make up a new name and put down a mobile phone number as their contact details when writing a letter to the Press.... all those letters saying "we won't return" all looked suspiciously similar - too similar to have been written by completely different people who have never met before; far more likely to have been clone letters trying to get the motoring lobby's views across. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

11:44am Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Magicman! wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?.
Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way.
Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won.
Wow, you must have a short memory... I've brought up this 'silent majority' thing before, and brought up the mess that the motoring brigade stirred up when it came to Water End. I'm not going to repeat myself again, as I think I'd just be wasting my time... might as well go and talk to a sheet of plasterboard.
Ahhh the final resort of the desperate minority again. Put downs and name calling tut tut.

And what is this then from Minster FM?

e-mail on 21st July 2013, Dave Merrett.

"Anna,"
"If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up."
"Thanks - Dave."
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: Or what a concerted campaign by supporters of our beleaguered councillors looks like?. Like 20s plenty who would lead you to believe they have 11m followers when they actually have about 150 nationally. If you get all your friends together to write in an organised fashion it makes it look like you have a lot of support. Like most minorities they don't they are just good at organising themselves to make it appear that way. Don't forget over 70% were against this bridge closure and have probably now gone back to being the silent majority believing they have won.[/p][/quote]Wow, you must have a short memory... I've brought up this 'silent majority' thing before, and brought up the mess that the motoring brigade stirred up when it came to Water End. I'm not going to repeat myself again, as I think I'd just be wasting my time... might as well go and talk to a sheet of plasterboard.[/p][/quote]Ahhh the final resort of the desperate minority again. Put downs and name calling tut tut. And what is this then from Minster FM? e-mail on 21st July 2013, Dave Merrett. "Anna," "If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up." "Thanks - Dave." strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 1

11:45am Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Magicman! wrote:
DavidMaughan wrote:
Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again.
Be aware that people can make up a new name and put down a mobile phone number as their contact details when writing a letter to the Press.... all those letters saying "we won't return" all looked suspiciously similar - too similar to have been written by completely different people who have never met before; far more likely to have been clone letters trying to get the motoring lobby's views across.
e-mail on 21st July 2013, Dave Merrett.

"Anna,"
"If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up."
"Thanks - Dave."
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DavidMaughan[/bold] wrote: Given that many visitors have written to say they will not come back to York due to the fines imposed (£1.3million) and businesses have lost significant income, please please please do not close the bridge again.[/p][/quote]Be aware that people can make up a new name and put down a mobile phone number as their contact details when writing a letter to the Press.... all those letters saying "we won't return" all looked suspiciously similar - too similar to have been written by completely different people who have never met before; far more likely to have been clone letters trying to get the motoring lobby's views across.[/p][/quote]e-mail on 21st July 2013, Dave Merrett. "Anna," "If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up." "Thanks - Dave." strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 1

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