Rivers not danger

Rivers not danger

Rivers not danger

First published in Letters by

I AM dismayed by headlines in The Press about the “dangerous rivers”.

The rivers are not dangerous if treated with respect and common sense.

I do hope our enjoyment of the riverbanks is not spoilt by fences, etc. The Ouse is the jewel in our crown and we often think how privileged we are to have such an asset in our beautiful city.

I’m afraid you will never stop tragedies. As the old saying goes: “When beer’s in, wit’s out”. It is still true today and always will be.

Brenda Batty, Heworth Hall Drive, Heworth, York.

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3:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

BL2 says...

Well said!
Well said! BL2
  • Score: 29

7:40pm Tue 8 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

BL2 wrote:
Well said!
agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus?
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: Well said![/p][/quote]agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus? oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 10

8:18pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Maybe they should rerun this advert? It traumatised a generation of kids, including me. I even treat the water in my bath with caution.
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=XNPMYRlv
ySY
Maybe they should rerun this advert? It traumatised a generation of kids, including me. I even treat the water in my bath with caution. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=XNPMYRlv ySY Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

11:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Omega Point says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
BL2 wrote:
Well said!
agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus?
are you saying students should not come into the city then?
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: Well said![/p][/quote]agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus?[/p][/quote]are you saying students should not come into the city then? Omega Point
  • Score: -4

2:58am Wed 9 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

BL2 wrote:
Well said!
Indeed... I don't see why a few drunk people who have irresponsibly got themselves into such a state they can't look after themselves should then spoin the riverside views for the rest of us.
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: Well said![/p][/quote]Indeed... I don't see why a few drunk people who have irresponsibly got themselves into such a state they can't look after themselves should then spoin the riverside views for the rest of us. Magicman!
  • Score: 9

7:17am Wed 9 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Omega Point wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
BL2 wrote:
Well said!
agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus?
are you saying students should not come into the city then?
re read it!!!

i said "ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!!"

i then said what happened to students drinking on campus?"

where did i say "students should not come into the city??"

if we didn't have cheap nights in the city, then maybe they would be a bit more prudent with the amount they chuck down their neck's .... st johns uses to have a bloody good bar in it and plenty of bands on back in the 70's
[quote][p][bold]Omega Point[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: Well said![/p][/quote]agreed ! ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!! what happened to students drinking on campus?[/p][/quote]are you saying students should not come into the city then?[/p][/quote]re read it!!! i said "ban student promotion nights in pubs in the city! they are the route cause to this problem!!" i then said what happened to students drinking on campus?" where did i say "students should not come into the city??" if we didn't have cheap nights in the city, then maybe they would be a bit more prudent with the amount they chuck down their neck's .... st johns uses to have a bloody good bar in it and plenty of bands on back in the 70's oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 7

7:22am Wed 9 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

I AM struggling to understand the knee-jerk reaction and calls for barriers to be installed along the Ouse and Foss in relation to recent tragic events.

Why erect barriers and spoil the water’s edge? Why spoil the pleasure people have at being close to the rivers?

Are there going to be calls to erect barriers along every road in York so people won’t get run over?

Those two rivers have run through the city since the year dot; like roads, they are safe if they are respected.

Recent tragedies have taken place during the early hours, possibly, and not wishing to attach blame, with alcohol playing a part.

Only two weeks ago, I asked two young girls and two lads to come away from the water’s edge near King’s Staith. They were sitting the wrong side of the fencing with their feet dangling over the edge.

This was at 4am and all four had been drinking and were oblivious to the danger they could have got into if they had fallen.

We are a vibrant city, we have a strong night life, we also have many venues offering crazy deals for large amounts of alcohol for next to nothing.


Education is a great tool, but start at the source.

Paul Willey, Burnholme Drive, Heworth, York.

this letter says it all!!!

also the young students/people don't seem to have one ounce of common sense (even when sober sometimes they wander around in some kind of dateless trance!)
I AM struggling to understand the knee-jerk reaction and calls for barriers to be installed along the Ouse and Foss in relation to recent tragic events. Why erect barriers and spoil the water’s edge? Why spoil the pleasure people have at being close to the rivers? Are there going to be calls to erect barriers along every road in York so people won’t get run over? Those two rivers have run through the city since the year dot; like roads, they are safe if they are respected. Recent tragedies have taken place during the early hours, possibly, and not wishing to attach blame, with alcohol playing a part. Only two weeks ago, I asked two young girls and two lads to come away from the water’s edge near King’s Staith. They were sitting the wrong side of the fencing with their feet dangling over the edge. This was at 4am and all four had been drinking and were oblivious to the danger they could have got into if they had fallen. We are a vibrant city, we have a strong night life, we also have many venues offering crazy deals for large amounts of alcohol for next to nothing. Education is a great tool, but start at the source. Paul Willey, Burnholme Drive, Heworth, York. this letter says it all!!! also the young students/people don't seem to have one ounce of common sense (even when sober sometimes they wander around in some kind of dateless trance!) oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 10

4:39pm Wed 9 Apr 14

observer1975 says...

"Rivers not Dangerous"

Are you really saying that?

All rivers are dangerous. With the tidal nature of the Ouse and the undercurrents created by the bridges and lock gates along it, York has a very dangerous sleeping monster running through it.

This is not to say that there is not an issue with drunken behavior in the city as there is, but all university cities do.

As a drinking tourism city that York has become with the number of rail links to other towns and cities, students are not the only ones to blame.

Drinking culture in the whole of the country needs to change and until alcohol is treated with respect by parents and children alike this lack of respect will continue,

There are more notices around lakes and ponds in York regarding safety than there are along the Ouse. I do not know what the long term solution is but knee jerk reactions from people on both sides will not save lives or improve the city as a whole. Proper consultation and assessment is needed so we don't end up making things worse although I dont hold much hope for that with this council...just look at the fiasco over Llendel Bridge.

On a separate issue James Alexander doesn't need to tell us that he doesn't know his father...we have known that for a long time....
"Rivers not Dangerous" Are you really saying that? All rivers are dangerous. With the tidal nature of the Ouse and the undercurrents created by the bridges and lock gates along it, York has a very dangerous sleeping monster running through it. This is not to say that there is not an issue with drunken behavior in the city as there is, but all university cities do. As a drinking tourism city that York has become with the number of rail links to other towns and cities, students are not the only ones to blame. Drinking culture in the whole of the country needs to change and until alcohol is treated with respect by parents and children alike this lack of respect will continue, There are more notices around lakes and ponds in York regarding safety than there are along the Ouse. I do not know what the long term solution is but knee jerk reactions from people on both sides will not save lives or improve the city as a whole. Proper consultation and assessment is needed so we don't end up making things worse although I dont hold much hope for that with this council...just look at the fiasco over Llendel Bridge. On a separate issue James Alexander doesn't need to tell us that he doesn't know his father...we have known that for a long time.... observer1975
  • Score: 0

12:24pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

"Drinking culture in the whole of the country needs to change and until alcohol is treated with respect by parents and children alike this lack of respect will continue,"
Fine words and a very practical idea. After we have done that we can get a cure for cancer, AIDS and an end to world starvation.
"Drinking culture in the whole of the country needs to change and until alcohol is treated with respect by parents and children alike this lack of respect will continue," Fine words and a very practical idea. After we have done that we can get a cure for cancer, AIDS and an end to world starvation. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

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