Energy cost soars

Energy cost soars

Energy cost soars

First published in Letters by

THE soaring price of energy is affecting everyone, and the hardest hit are the poorest, who cannot afford to turn on the heating.

If we continue to rely on fossil fuels, bills will rise in the long term as coal, oil and gas become more expensive while renewable technology gets cheaper. Fossil fuels are also driving climate change and polluting people’s land, especially in developing countries.Yet the big UK banks continue to pour billions of pounds into new coal, oil and gas projects around the world, and the Government is doing nothing to stop them.

Perhaps this is not surprising: research by the World Development Movement shows that a third of ministers in the coalition Government have personal links to either the big fossil fuel companies or the finance companies that bankroll them.

We need a Government that takes both fuel poverty and climate change seriously, not one that puts the profits of big companies before all else.

Colin Sherwood, Clifton Place, York.

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12:19am Sun 30 Mar 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Colin, you need to get your facts right. Take a look what Mrs Milliband and Mrs Clegg do for a living and the links Tim Yeo has with renewable energy.
And of course Chris Huhne came out of jail, straight into a part time well paid job in the biomass industry.
Have a look at the links between land rent for wind turbines and the Prime Ministers family and that of Tony Blair but don’t stop there.
Coal generation provides us with the cheapest energy and is reliable. And yet Eggborough power station that provides 4% of the nation’s electricity is set to shut in the near future simply to meet silly carbon targets.
The reason energy prices are so high is largely to do with the cost of renewable energy, such as wind and solar. On the other hand, Hydro and nuclear are efficient at least.
You can blame the cost of high energy bills over more recent years on Green taxes, the PM / Chancellor has taken some of these stealth charges off our domestic bills and hidden them in general taxation, so we still pay and our National debt just gets bigger.
Ed Miliband’s 2008 Climate Change Act gave us the biggest Bill in our History, costing us £18.3 Billion per year until 2050. That’s a lot of windmills.
Incidentally, even if the UK was covered in windmills, 80% of our generation would still need to be from traditional generation in order to facilitate start up and fill the gap when there was no wind or too much wind.
I wonder why Germany is turning back to coal, just like so many other countries. But for some reason ‘big’ oil is the culprit to the Greenie though much of it is synthetic / man made.
As for Global Warming or Climate Change since the warming stopped: There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. At least UKIP gives us the chance to put the brakes on the biggest scam on Earth before it finishes us off. BTW, if wind was so good then why was the CoYC turbine junked?
Colin, you need to get your facts right. Take a look what Mrs Milliband and Mrs Clegg do for a living and the links Tim Yeo has with renewable energy. And of course Chris Huhne came out of jail, straight into a part time well paid job in the biomass industry. Have a look at the links between land rent for wind turbines and the Prime Ministers family and that of Tony Blair but don’t stop there. Coal generation provides us with the cheapest energy and is reliable. And yet Eggborough power station that provides 4% of the nation’s electricity is set to shut in the near future simply to meet silly carbon targets. The reason energy prices are so high is largely to do with the cost of renewable energy, such as wind and solar. On the other hand, Hydro and nuclear are efficient at least. You can blame the cost of high energy bills over more recent years on Green taxes, the PM / Chancellor has taken some of these stealth charges off our domestic bills and hidden them in general taxation, so we still pay and our National debt just gets bigger. Ed Miliband’s 2008 Climate Change Act gave us the biggest Bill in our History, costing us £18.3 Billion per year until 2050. That’s a lot of windmills. Incidentally, even if the UK was covered in windmills, 80% of our generation would still need to be from traditional generation in order to facilitate start up and fill the gap when there was no wind or too much wind. I wonder why Germany is turning back to coal, just like so many other countries. But for some reason ‘big’ oil is the culprit to the Greenie though much of it is synthetic / man made. As for Global Warming or Climate Change since the warming stopped: There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. At least UKIP gives us the chance to put the brakes on the biggest scam on Earth before it finishes us off. BTW, if wind was so good then why was the CoYC turbine junked? ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -21

10:08am Sun 30 Mar 14

sihendry says...

> There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming.

the evidence is, imo, compelling.

- sea level rise ( 17cm over the last 100 years )
- global temperature rise since pre-industrial times
- warming oceans ( top 700m ~+0.3C since 1969 )
- shrinking ice sheets ( greenland losing 150-250km3/pa )
- declining arctic sea ice
- ocean acidiication

and they are just the start...

(culled from: http://climate.nasa.
gov/evidence )

if this isnt been caused by CO2, what is it been caused by?
> There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. the evidence is, imo, compelling. - sea level rise ( 17cm over the last 100 years ) - global temperature rise since pre-industrial times - warming oceans ( top 700m ~+0.3C since 1969 ) - shrinking ice sheets ( greenland losing 150-250km3/pa ) - declining arctic sea ice - ocean acidiication and they are just the start... (culled from: http://climate.nasa. gov/evidence ) if this isnt been caused by CO2, what is it been caused by? sihendry
  • Score: 20

10:54am Sun 30 Mar 14

Thislittleold market town says...

sihendry wrote:
> There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming.

the evidence is, imo, compelling.

- sea level rise ( 17cm over the last 100 years )
- global temperature rise since pre-industrial times
- warming oceans ( top 700m ~+0.3C since 1969 )
- shrinking ice sheets ( greenland losing 150-250km3/pa )
- declining arctic sea ice
- ocean acidiication

and they are just the start...

(culled from: http://climate.nasa.

gov/evidence )

if this isnt been caused by CO2, what is it been caused by?
No proof it's man made,climate change yes man made no,,do you loonies really think you can change a climate?so if you was around with all your projects and brainpower you could of stopped the ice age? Just another cash cow
[quote][p][bold]sihendry[/bold] wrote: > There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. the evidence is, imo, compelling. - sea level rise ( 17cm over the last 100 years ) - global temperature rise since pre-industrial times - warming oceans ( top 700m ~+0.3C since 1969 ) - shrinking ice sheets ( greenland losing 150-250km3/pa ) - declining arctic sea ice - ocean acidiication and they are just the start... (culled from: http://climate.nasa. gov/evidence ) if this isnt been caused by CO2, what is it been caused by?[/p][/quote]No proof it's man made,climate change yes man made no,,do you loonies really think you can change a climate?so if you was around with all your projects and brainpower you could of stopped the ice age? Just another cash cow Thislittleold market town
  • Score: -22

11:14am Sun 30 Mar 14

sihendry says...

so what is causing the climate change?

( which i think you accept is happening? )

do you really think we can add 30+% CO2 to the atmosphere, a principle greenhouse gas that comes coupled with its largest positive feedback of increased water vapour in the atmosphere, and NOT cause climate change?

> so if you was around with all your projects and brainpower you could of stopped the ice age?

3 major factors for ice ages - orbital variations, plate tectonics and atmospheric composition.

we can affect one of them....
so what is causing the climate change? ( which i think you accept is happening? ) do you really think we can add 30+% CO2 to the atmosphere, a principle greenhouse gas that comes coupled with its largest positive feedback of increased water vapour in the atmosphere, and NOT cause climate change? > so if you was around with all your projects and brainpower you could of stopped the ice age? 3 major factors for ice ages - orbital variations, plate tectonics and atmospheric composition. we can affect one of them.... sihendry
  • Score: 19

12:48pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Thecynic says...

The problem with this 'There is no proof...' attitude is this. In science, fact is usually the last stage of the process, theories are in effect, for any given phenomena, for a considerable amount of time before the required standard of proof is able to be verified.

History is littered with literally thousands of scientific theories, and while some have not progressed on to becoming fact, many have, and an extremely small amount have proven to be 'bunkum'.

Couple that with the increased knowledge we have today, along with powerful computing ability, (neither of which were available to the vast majority of scientists in the past who put forward various theories) and my money is on the side of, 'we probably are contributing to Global warming'

Of course I may be wrong? But is it a chance we want to take?
There are lots of things today that are widely accepted but still no proof exists for. Probably the biggest being religion, it is a widely accepted belief that Deities of one form or another exist, not many are vocal in their querying of those particular beliefs, however there still is no definitive 'Proof' so as such, religion remains a theory.

Proof is a relative term, if I am blindfold and have ear plugs in, then I drop a hammer at arms length, I do not need to see or hear the hammer drop to know that it has indeed fallen to the ground, in this case I rely on theory, physics and gravity but nontheless theory to ascertain that it has actually hit the ground.
The problem with this 'There is no proof...' attitude is this. In science, fact is usually the last stage of the process, theories are in effect, for any given phenomena, for a considerable amount of time before the required standard of proof is able to be verified. History is littered with literally thousands of scientific theories, and while some have not progressed on to becoming fact, many have, and an extremely small amount have proven to be 'bunkum'. Couple that with the increased knowledge we have today, along with powerful computing ability, (neither of which were available to the vast majority of scientists in the past who put forward various theories) and my money is on the side of, 'we probably are contributing to Global warming' Of course I may be wrong? But is it a chance we want to take? There are lots of things today that are widely accepted but still no proof exists for. Probably the biggest being religion, it is a widely accepted belief that Deities of one form or another exist, not many are vocal in their querying of those particular beliefs, however there still is no definitive 'Proof' so as such, religion remains a theory. Proof is a relative term, if I am blindfold and have ear plugs in, then I drop a hammer at arms length, I do not need to see or hear the hammer drop to know that it has indeed fallen to the ground, in this case I rely on theory, physics and gravity but nontheless theory to ascertain that it has actually hit the ground. Thecynic
  • Score: 1

9:19pm Sun 30 Mar 14

gwen4me says...

We should all seek to minimise the amount of energy we use, because fossil fuels are finite and windmills wear out and are an inefficient way of generating power. Nuclear is also a resource that will run out. We should make our resources last as long as we can.
We should all seek to minimise the amount of energy we use, because fossil fuels are finite and windmills wear out and are an inefficient way of generating power. Nuclear is also a resource that will run out. We should make our resources last as long as we can. gwen4me
  • Score: 3

12:04pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Major Bloodnok says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Colin, you need to get your facts right. Take a look what Mrs Milliband and Mrs Clegg do for a living and the links Tim Yeo has with renewable energy.
And of course Chris Huhne came out of jail, straight into a part time well paid job in the biomass industry.
Have a look at the links between land rent for wind turbines and the Prime Ministers family and that of Tony Blair but don’t stop there.
Coal generation provides us with the cheapest energy and is reliable. And yet Eggborough power station that provides 4% of the nation’s electricity is set to shut in the near future simply to meet silly carbon targets.
The reason energy prices are so high is largely to do with the cost of renewable energy, such as wind and solar. On the other hand, Hydro and nuclear are efficient at least.
You can blame the cost of high energy bills over more recent years on Green taxes, the PM / Chancellor has taken some of these stealth charges off our domestic bills and hidden them in general taxation, so we still pay and our National debt just gets bigger.
Ed Miliband’s 2008 Climate Change Act gave us the biggest Bill in our History, costing us £18.3 Billion per year until 2050. That’s a lot of windmills.
Incidentally, even if the UK was covered in windmills, 80% of our generation would still need to be from traditional generation in order to facilitate start up and fill the gap when there was no wind or too much wind.
I wonder why Germany is turning back to coal, just like so many other countries. But for some reason ‘big’ oil is the culprit to the Greenie though much of it is synthetic / man made.
As for Global Warming or Climate Change since the warming stopped: There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. At least UKIP gives us the chance to put the brakes on the biggest scam on Earth before it finishes us off. BTW, if wind was so good then why was the CoYC turbine junked?
Yet the fat cats can Eat & Heat the poor stay warm or starve.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Colin, you need to get your facts right. Take a look what Mrs Milliband and Mrs Clegg do for a living and the links Tim Yeo has with renewable energy. And of course Chris Huhne came out of jail, straight into a part time well paid job in the biomass industry. Have a look at the links between land rent for wind turbines and the Prime Ministers family and that of Tony Blair but don’t stop there. Coal generation provides us with the cheapest energy and is reliable. And yet Eggborough power station that provides 4% of the nation’s electricity is set to shut in the near future simply to meet silly carbon targets. The reason energy prices are so high is largely to do with the cost of renewable energy, such as wind and solar. On the other hand, Hydro and nuclear are efficient at least. You can blame the cost of high energy bills over more recent years on Green taxes, the PM / Chancellor has taken some of these stealth charges off our domestic bills and hidden them in general taxation, so we still pay and our National debt just gets bigger. Ed Miliband’s 2008 Climate Change Act gave us the biggest Bill in our History, costing us £18.3 Billion per year until 2050. That’s a lot of windmills. Incidentally, even if the UK was covered in windmills, 80% of our generation would still need to be from traditional generation in order to facilitate start up and fill the gap when there was no wind or too much wind. I wonder why Germany is turning back to coal, just like so many other countries. But for some reason ‘big’ oil is the culprit to the Greenie though much of it is synthetic / man made. As for Global Warming or Climate Change since the warming stopped: There is still no proof that man made CO2 causes warming. At least UKIP gives us the chance to put the brakes on the biggest scam on Earth before it finishes us off. BTW, if wind was so good then why was the CoYC turbine junked?[/p][/quote]Yet the fat cats can Eat & Heat the poor stay warm or starve. Major Bloodnok
  • Score: 1

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