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12:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

The Great Buda says...

A lot of the same old, same old in the letters today, but this one I agree with.
A lot of the same old, same old in the letters today, but this one I agree with. The Great Buda
  • Score: 101

1:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Norah1953 says...

Well said!
Well said! Norah1953
  • Score: -90

1:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

anistasia says...

It's still closed because it's making money.my dad says so the council don't admit getting it wrong they will have shorter closed hours or days when you can and can't go over the bridge.doing this makes their decision to trial the bridge closure a success.
It's still closed because it's making money.my dad says so the council don't admit getting it wrong they will have shorter closed hours or days when you can and can't go over the bridge.doing this makes their decision to trial the bridge closure a success. anistasia
  • Score: -95

1:34pm Wed 26 Mar 14

WhyEver says...

The council are trying to delay making the decision, and will certainly not admit any failings in their management of the closure. They could stop fining people (as they did over Christmas), they could temporarily reopen (as they have for special events), but they want to keep saying it's been a success.
The council are trying to delay making the decision, and will certainly not admit any failings in their management of the closure. They could stop fining people (as they did over Christmas), they could temporarily reopen (as they have for special events), but they want to keep saying it's been a success. WhyEver
  • Score: -88

2:20pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Jonothon says...

There is a presumption in Wendy's letter that the trial outcome will inevitably result in ending restrictions. But what if the restrictions were ended and the outcome was that they had to be reimposed? The anti-council crazies would have a collective apoplexy. The signs which had been taken down would all have to be re-erected, and the signs on the road surface re-painted, and all at enormous public expense

Look at it this way Wendy. Would you agree to an operation for brain surgery without waiting for the result of the scan?
There is a presumption in Wendy's letter that the trial outcome will inevitably result in ending restrictions. But what if the restrictions were ended and the outcome was that they had to be reimposed? The anti-council crazies would have a collective apoplexy. The signs which had been taken down would all have to be re-erected, and the signs on the road surface re-painted, and all at enormous public expense Look at it this way Wendy. Would you agree to an operation for brain surgery without waiting for the result of the scan? Jonothon
  • Score: 81

3:46pm Wed 26 Mar 14

imassey says...

Majorities aren't always right. Nor do they always get what they want.
Majorities aren't always right. Nor do they always get what they want. imassey
  • Score: 72

4:07pm Wed 26 Mar 14

strangebuttrue? says...

It is still in place because they want to see if a further delay will get you used to your new miserable lives and you will stop complaining and allow them to get away with this. Most times it works.

Scarborough council did the same thing a few years ago but having joined the anti car council club late had to implement the traffic light driven vehicle constraints all at one go. This resulted in massive congestion almost overnight first with all the road works and then with the lights. Residents were told by the council, when they came out in force to complain at their new miserable time wasting polluted lives, wait a few months whilst it settles down and then come back to us. Of course a few months passed and nothing changed except - everyone got used to it and now live like us in never ending council created queues and pollution.

York council were on then bandwagon straight away so could almost imperceptibly introduce the changes under the guise of safety at first. Remember Boroughbridge Road was 2 lanes from the end of Carr Lane to Poppleton Road? For safety reasons they suddenly took out one lane which at first resulted in what was a 5 minute journey becoming a 35 minute journey from the outskirts of York to the town centre. Few complained at the time and many just found alternative routes which spread the congestion and pollution around the rest of the city. Since then each of the other routes has had some treatment of one kind or another to create the same effect so now we just have the illusion of increased volume of traffic when in actual fact there is less traffic volume now then in 2002.

Most will have forgotten the changes which were made by now, which is just what they will have been banking on with Lendal Bridge, and just believe the misleading propaganda put out about increasing volume of traffic but as I have said the reverse is actually true according to council reports.
It is still in place because they want to see if a further delay will get you used to your new miserable lives and you will stop complaining and allow them to get away with this. Most times it works. Scarborough council did the same thing a few years ago but having joined the anti car council club late had to implement the traffic light driven vehicle constraints all at one go. This resulted in massive congestion almost overnight first with all the road works and then with the lights. Residents were told by the council, when they came out in force to complain at their new miserable time wasting polluted lives, wait a few months whilst it settles down and then come back to us. Of course a few months passed and nothing changed except - everyone got used to it and now live like us in never ending council created queues and pollution. York council were on then bandwagon straight away so could almost imperceptibly introduce the changes under the guise of safety at first. Remember Boroughbridge Road was 2 lanes from the end of Carr Lane to Poppleton Road? For safety reasons they suddenly took out one lane which at first resulted in what was a 5 minute journey becoming a 35 minute journey from the outskirts of York to the town centre. Few complained at the time and many just found alternative routes which spread the congestion and pollution around the rest of the city. Since then each of the other routes has had some treatment of one kind or another to create the same effect so now we just have the illusion of increased volume of traffic when in actual fact there is less traffic volume now then in 2002. Most will have forgotten the changes which were made by now, which is just what they will have been banking on with Lendal Bridge, and just believe the misleading propaganda put out about increasing volume of traffic but as I have said the reverse is actually true according to council reports. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 5

5:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Lance Corporal Jones says...

Jonothon wrote:
There is a presumption in Wendy's letter that the trial outcome will inevitably result in ending restrictions. But what if the restrictions were ended and the outcome was that they had to be reimposed? The anti-council crazies would have a collective apoplexy. The signs which had been taken down would all have to be re-erected, and the signs on the road surface re-painted, and all at enormous public expense

Look at it this way Wendy. Would you agree to an operation for brain surgery without waiting for the result of the scan?
"Don't Panic", "Don't Panic", anti-council crazies "Don't Panic".
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: There is a presumption in Wendy's letter that the trial outcome will inevitably result in ending restrictions. But what if the restrictions were ended and the outcome was that they had to be reimposed? The anti-council crazies would have a collective apoplexy. The signs which had been taken down would all have to be re-erected, and the signs on the road surface re-painted, and all at enormous public expense Look at it this way Wendy. Would you agree to an operation for brain surgery without waiting for the result of the scan?[/p][/quote]"Don't Panic", "Don't Panic", anti-council crazies "Don't Panic". Lance Corporal Jones
  • Score: 13

10:47pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jay, york says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
It is still in place because they want to see if a further delay will get you used to your new miserable lives and you will stop complaining and allow them to get away with this. Most times it works. Scarborough council did the same thing a few years ago but having joined the anti car council club late had to implement the traffic light driven vehicle constraints all at one go. This resulted in massive congestion almost overnight first with all the road works and then with the lights. Residents were told by the council, when they came out in force to complain at their new miserable time wasting polluted lives, wait a few months whilst it settles down and then come back to us. Of course a few months passed and nothing changed except - everyone got used to it and now live like us in never ending council created queues and pollution. York council were on then bandwagon straight away so could almost imperceptibly introduce the changes under the guise of safety at first. Remember Boroughbridge Road was 2 lanes from the end of Carr Lane to Poppleton Road? For safety reasons they suddenly took out one lane which at first resulted in what was a 5 minute journey becoming a 35 minute journey from the outskirts of York to the town centre. Few complained at the time and many just found alternative routes which spread the congestion and pollution around the rest of the city. Since then each of the other routes has had some treatment of one kind or another to create the same effect so now we just have the illusion of increased volume of traffic when in actual fact there is less traffic volume now then in 2002. Most will have forgotten the changes which were made by now, which is just what they will have been banking on with Lendal Bridge, and just believe the misleading propaganda put out about increasing volume of traffic but as I have said the reverse is actually true according to council reports.
All true - especially your last comment - and thank goodness people are actually speaking out about this now.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: It is still in place because they want to see if a further delay will get you used to your new miserable lives and you will stop complaining and allow them to get away with this. Most times it works. Scarborough council did the same thing a few years ago but having joined the anti car council club late had to implement the traffic light driven vehicle constraints all at one go. This resulted in massive congestion almost overnight first with all the road works and then with the lights. Residents were told by the council, when they came out in force to complain at their new miserable time wasting polluted lives, wait a few months whilst it settles down and then come back to us. Of course a few months passed and nothing changed except - everyone got used to it and now live like us in never ending council created queues and pollution. York council were on then bandwagon straight away so could almost imperceptibly introduce the changes under the guise of safety at first. Remember Boroughbridge Road was 2 lanes from the end of Carr Lane to Poppleton Road? For safety reasons they suddenly took out one lane which at first resulted in what was a 5 minute journey becoming a 35 minute journey from the outskirts of York to the town centre. Few complained at the time and many just found alternative routes which spread the congestion and pollution around the rest of the city. Since then each of the other routes has had some treatment of one kind or another to create the same effect so now we just have the illusion of increased volume of traffic when in actual fact there is less traffic volume now then in 2002. Most will have forgotten the changes which were made by now, which is just what they will have been banking on with Lendal Bridge, and just believe the misleading propaganda put out about increasing volume of traffic but as I have said the reverse is actually true according to council reports.[/p][/quote]All true - especially your last comment - and thank goodness people are actually speaking out about this now. jay, york
  • Score: 4

1:33am Thu 27 Mar 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

jonothon, this brain scan is taking so long that the paient (York) will be dead before a decision is made!
jonothon, this brain scan is taking so long that the paient (York) will be dead before a decision is made! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: 3

6:34am Fri 28 Mar 14

anistasia says...

Now the trial is over are any tickets given out legally issued do you have a case against the council.
Now the trial is over are any tickets given out legally issued do you have a case against the council. anistasia
  • Score: 0

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