Reckless cyclists

York Press: Reckless cyclists Reckless cyclists

WITH all the talk lately about bad driving, yes, there are some bad drivers out there. But I seem to be encountering more cyclists lately who do not bother to look back when pulling out to pass parked cars or when moving to the middle of the road to turn right at a junction.

Some of them do not use hand signals, never mind looking back.

It seems the law and politeness of signalling is slowly disappearing, and we should all have a crystal ball with us at all times.

The other day a cyclist undertook me as I was about to turn left.

Luckily for him I had my crystal ball with me and I was using my indicators. I have even seen police cars driving past as these manoeuvres are being made without blinking an eye.

Years ago the police would have caught up with you and given you a firm ticking off and a bit of advice; now there is not that kind of attention to road users. So come on, let’s all try a bit harder and then no one gets annoyed. As the saying goes – Have a nice day now.

Mr A Moore, Lowfield Drive, Haxby, York.

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11:25am Thu 20 Mar 14

Ageing Hippy says...

"Yawn!"
"Yawn!" Ageing Hippy
  • Score: 7

11:33am Thu 20 Mar 14

Hand and Hyle says...

So, both drivers and cyclists should use indicators. Good, glad we've got that cleared up.

Perhaps the police could also have a word with drivers who insist on undertaking cyclists rather than waiting a few more seconds to turn left?
So, both drivers and cyclists should use indicators. Good, glad we've got that cleared up. Perhaps the police could also have a word with drivers who insist on undertaking cyclists rather than waiting a few more seconds to turn left? Hand and Hyle
  • Score: 13

1:16pm Thu 20 Mar 14

boardman_rider says...

So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse.
So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse. boardman_rider
  • Score: 12

2:16pm Thu 20 Mar 14

PKH says...

So would the letter writer overtake a car that will be about to pull out a pass a parked vehicle, thought not, he would give them room to pass. He should also do likewise for cyclists. This letter suggest writer is a reckless motorist.
So would the letter writer overtake a car that will be about to pull out a pass a parked vehicle, thought not, he would give them room to pass. He should also do likewise for cyclists. This letter suggest writer is a reckless motorist. PKH
  • Score: 19

4:08pm Thu 20 Mar 14

CHISSY1 says...

What about the idiots who ride bikes on pavements,any comments from the pro bike brigade.
What about the idiots who ride bikes on pavements,any comments from the pro bike brigade. CHISSY1
  • Score: -8

4:44pm Thu 20 Mar 14

nican4 says...

There are negligent and inconsiderate road users of all types. As a responsible and law-abiding cyclist (also a regular car driver, bus user and pedestrian), I'm as irritated as anyone by the many cyclists who fail to observe elementary rules of the road such as waiting at red lights, signalling before turning and displaying lights after dark. But many drivers of motor vehicles are equally casual, for example not bothering to indicate their intention to turn left until the moment they reach the junction. I frequently approach traffic lights intending to go straight on, alongside vehicles with no indicator lights showing which then start turning although they should be aware of my presence. The drivers clearly don't use their mirrors to see what's close to them. For safety in this situation, the best thing the cyclist can do is to move to the right and ride behind the motor vehicle in case it turns into my path.
There are negligent and inconsiderate road users of all types. As a responsible and law-abiding cyclist (also a regular car driver, bus user and pedestrian), I'm as irritated as anyone by the many cyclists who fail to observe elementary rules of the road such as waiting at red lights, signalling before turning and displaying lights after dark. But many drivers of motor vehicles are equally casual, for example not bothering to indicate their intention to turn left until the moment they reach the junction. I frequently approach traffic lights intending to go straight on, alongside vehicles with no indicator lights showing which then start turning although they should be aware of my presence. The drivers clearly don't use their mirrors to see what's close to them. For safety in this situation, the best thing the cyclist can do is to move to the right and ride behind the motor vehicle in case it turns into my path. nican4
  • Score: 19

5:41pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

As is becoming common lately, this letter writer admits poor driving. He certainly wouldn't pass a test if he drives like he describes.

I agree that too many cyclists act like confused imbeciles when turning right, either not bothering to look behind them or panicking and waiting at the side of the road but.......

The onus is on the driver of the car behind to look ahead for possible dangers and obstructions. A cyclist passing a parked car has no obligation to look behind, why should they? Does that mean if a car is coming from behind they should stop and give way? Nonsense. The driver of the car should see the cyclist, anticipate their move around the parked car and moderate their speed appropriately.
If the letter writer doesn't understand this then they need to brush up.
As is becoming common lately, this letter writer admits poor driving. He certainly wouldn't pass a test if he drives like he describes. I agree that too many cyclists act like confused imbeciles when turning right, either not bothering to look behind them or panicking and waiting at the side of the road but....... The onus is on the driver of the car behind to look ahead for possible dangers and obstructions. A cyclist passing a parked car has no obligation to look behind, why should they? Does that mean if a car is coming from behind they should stop and give way? Nonsense. The driver of the car should see the cyclist, anticipate their move around the parked car and moderate their speed appropriately. If the letter writer doesn't understand this then they need to brush up. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -3

5:57pm Thu 20 Mar 14

last of the mandms says...

I find it extraordinary that members of "I'm a fine driver brigade" constantly carp about cyclists behaving in a way they describe as "predictable" as in "I seem to be encountering more and more etc etc. ". If you are so sure it's about to happen take steps to avoid it is my advise.
I find it extraordinary that members of "I'm a fine driver brigade" constantly carp about cyclists behaving in a way they describe as "predictable" as in "I seem to be encountering more and more etc etc. ". If you are so sure it's about to happen take steps to avoid it is my advise. last of the mandms
  • Score: 19

7:57pm Thu 20 Mar 14

courier46 says...

It`s not about politeness when pulling out to overtake when your on a bike ,it must be about self preservation,were talking about dead.You have to stop thinking that everyone will notice you because one day they wont You have to take responsibility for your own life.
I agree as well about the amount of bikes I now am seeing on paths-youths ,parents with there children women and men and these people are going at a speed that could kill a child coming out of a blind gateway.
Also agree cars are driven by some right idiots who seem to think it`s ok to drive at twice the speed limit while doing manoeuvres that suggest they haven`t passed there test.
It`s not about politeness when pulling out to overtake when your on a bike ,it must be about self preservation,were talking about dead.You have to stop thinking that everyone will notice you because one day they wont You have to take responsibility for your own life. I agree as well about the amount of bikes I now am seeing on paths-youths ,parents with there children women and men and these people are going at a speed that could kill a child coming out of a blind gateway. Also agree cars are driven by some right idiots who seem to think it`s ok to drive at twice the speed limit while doing manoeuvres that suggest they haven`t passed there test. courier46
  • Score: -18

9:34pm Thu 20 Mar 14

TheManor says...

My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.
My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides. TheManor
  • Score: -19

9:48pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

TheManor wrote:
My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.
Not true.
There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar.
[quote][p][bold]TheManor[/bold] wrote: My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.[/p][/quote]Not true. There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -3

11:35pm Thu 20 Mar 14

strangebuttrue? says...

I would never defend the idiot motorist who do endanger the safety of cyclist but have to agree that a growing minority of cyclist seem to think that it is everyone else's job to look out for them and in some ways it but. A few weeks ago I was working down a street mainly occupied by older people. There were a couple of cars stopped along with a cyclist in the road waiting for another car to pass a parked vehicle. I was carrying something heavy to my car and just as I stepped out of the gate onto the path out of the corner of my eye I say something approaching rapidly on the path - an impatient cyclist who could not be bothered to wait a few seconds. Not some yob a smartly dressed gentleman who, as I stopped abruptly nearly dropping the item I was carrying and at the same time nearly having a heart attack whizzed past me mumbling sorry. I don't mind telling you I was quite shaken up by my near miss but then thought, just think if that had been one of the elderly residents and he had hit?. What could the life changing consequences have been for an elderly person hit by a cyclist after just stepping out of the gate onto the footpath? I wonder if the cyclist had these thoughts? I hope so so that he does not do it again.
I would never defend the idiot motorist who do endanger the safety of cyclist but have to agree that a growing minority of cyclist seem to think that it is everyone else's job to look out for them and in some ways it but. A few weeks ago I was working down a street mainly occupied by older people. There were a couple of cars stopped along with a cyclist in the road waiting for another car to pass a parked vehicle. I was carrying something heavy to my car and just as I stepped out of the gate onto the path out of the corner of my eye I say something approaching rapidly on the path - an impatient cyclist who could not be bothered to wait a few seconds. Not some yob a smartly dressed gentleman who, as I stopped abruptly nearly dropping the item I was carrying and at the same time nearly having a heart attack whizzed past me mumbling sorry. I don't mind telling you I was quite shaken up by my near miss but then thought, just think if that had been one of the elderly residents and he had hit?. What could the life changing consequences have been for an elderly person hit by a cyclist after just stepping out of the gate onto the footpath? I wonder if the cyclist had these thoughts? I hope so so that he does not do it again. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 1

8:42am Fri 21 Mar 14

sniper 9964 says...

Cyclists are an absolute menace. Majority dont bother to obey the rules of the road. Traffic lights mean nothing to them. They make turns in the road where prohibited. Cycle on pavements and wrong way on a one way street. Dont bother to use lights in the dark. Its about time the police stamped this out
Cyclists are an absolute menace. Majority dont bother to obey the rules of the road. Traffic lights mean nothing to them. They make turns in the road where prohibited. Cycle on pavements and wrong way on a one way street. Dont bother to use lights in the dark. Its about time the police stamped this out sniper 9964
  • Score: -4

8:47am Fri 21 Mar 14

goatman says...

There a good and bad on both sides that I can see as both a cyclist and a motorist. The real issue these days IMHO is ENFORCEMENT. When I was a lad I got punished for riding a cycle after dark with no lights. Equally I know of other mates who were torn off a strip by a local copper for riding on the path. And as for cyclists who text, listen to headphones, ride no-handed - well, they obviously have no regard for themselves or anybody else. And that's said with my cycling head on.
There a good and bad on both sides that I can see as both a cyclist and a motorist. The real issue these days IMHO is ENFORCEMENT. When I was a lad I got punished for riding a cycle after dark with no lights. Equally I know of other mates who were torn off a strip by a local copper for riding on the path. And as for cyclists who text, listen to headphones, ride no-handed - well, they obviously have no regard for themselves or anybody else. And that's said with my cycling head on. goatman
  • Score: 5

9:41am Fri 21 Mar 14

TheManor says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
TheManor wrote:
My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.
Not true.
There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar.
There used to be a filter lane, now there is just a traffic light and absolutely no indication that this does not apply to cyclists. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I've looked at this junction many times as a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and unless you know of how it used to be, there is nothing there to suggest that the traffic lights do not apply to all road users.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheManor[/bold] wrote: My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.[/p][/quote]Not true. There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar.[/p][/quote]There used to be a filter lane, now there is just a traffic light and absolutely no indication that this does not apply to cyclists. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I've looked at this junction many times as a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and unless you know of how it used to be, there is nothing there to suggest that the traffic lights do not apply to all road users. TheManor
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Yorkshine1 says...

TheManor wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote:
TheManor wrote: My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.
Not true. There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar.
There used to be a filter lane, now there is just a traffic light and absolutely no indication that this does not apply to cyclists. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I've looked at this junction many times as a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and unless you know of how it used to be, there is nothing there to suggest that the traffic lights do not apply to all road users.
Wrong. The solid white line does not cross over into the cycle lane, and as such cyclists may proceed. You only see what you want to see, and if you hate cyclists, then you only see the bad ones and reinforce that with incorrect assumptions.

To be honest aren't most cyclists just normal folk trying to get to work or get home? I don't cycle to annoy drivers, because i am both. I cycle because its easier for me to get about. When drivers get aggressive at me i just shrug it off - its their issue not mine...I'm just trying to get somewhere.

Lycra-clad speed freaks are a different matter though. They need removing.
[quote][p][bold]TheManor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheManor[/bold] wrote: My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.[/p][/quote]Not true. There IS a filter lane for cyclists through the first set of lights and tbrough Monk Bar.[/p][/quote]There used to be a filter lane, now there is just a traffic light and absolutely no indication that this does not apply to cyclists. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I've looked at this junction many times as a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and unless you know of how it used to be, there is nothing there to suggest that the traffic lights do not apply to all road users.[/p][/quote]Wrong. The solid white line does not cross over into the cycle lane, and as such cyclists may proceed. You only see what you want to see, and if you hate cyclists, then you only see the bad ones and reinforce that with incorrect assumptions. To be honest aren't most cyclists just normal folk trying to get to work or get home? I don't cycle to annoy drivers, because i am both. I cycle because its easier for me to get about. When drivers get aggressive at me i just shrug it off - its their issue not mine...I'm just trying to get somewhere. Lycra-clad speed freaks are a different matter though. They need removing. Yorkshine1
  • Score: 3

10:25pm Fri 21 Mar 14

jay, york says...

boardman_rider wrote:
So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse.
And you are the arrogant voice that gives cyclists a bad name. All you think is "you're in a car and I'm on a bike, so you must let me have the right of way". It is a duty of ALL road users to show consideration to others, whether they be bigger or smaller than you! And also a duty to look out for and anticipate the actions of others to enable your own safety.

Cyclists are able to ride on the same roads without having to take a test for anything!
[quote][p][bold]boardman_rider[/bold] wrote: So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse.[/p][/quote]And you are the arrogant voice that gives cyclists a bad name. All you think is "you're in a car and I'm on a bike, so you must let me have the right of way". It is a duty of ALL road users to show consideration to others, whether they be bigger or smaller than you! And also a duty to look out for and anticipate the actions of others to enable your own safety. Cyclists are able to ride on the same roads without having to take a test for anything! jay, york
  • Score: -3

5:23am Sat 22 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

Hand and Hyle wrote:
So, both drivers and cyclists should use indicators. Good, glad we've got that cleared up.

Perhaps the police could also have a word with drivers who insist on undertaking cyclists rather than waiting a few more seconds to turn left?
And those who see a cyclist indicating to turn right but then proceed to honk their horn at the cyclist because they didn't want to be held up for all of 4 seconds behind the bike.
(I've seen some bikes which actually have flashing yellow indicators fitted, and so those might be used instead of hand signals)

And speaking of dangerous moves... there is a blind bend on Huntington Road near to Park Grove which has an 8ft high wall on the apex - you cannot see what is coming the other way, and yet there are a number of drivers who decide to overtake a bike right there on the corner. The council have done nothing to prevent this occuring - but then I suppose we'll have to wait until a car smashes into the front of the number 13 bus coming the other way and kills its driver before something is done, that's usually how these things work... after the event.
[quote][p][bold]Hand and Hyle[/bold] wrote: So, both drivers and cyclists should use indicators. Good, glad we've got that cleared up. Perhaps the police could also have a word with drivers who insist on undertaking cyclists rather than waiting a few more seconds to turn left?[/p][/quote]And those who see a cyclist indicating to turn right but then proceed to honk their horn at the cyclist because they didn't want to be held up for all of 4 seconds behind the bike. (I've seen some bikes which actually have flashing yellow indicators fitted, and so those might be used instead of hand signals) And speaking of dangerous moves... there is a blind bend on Huntington Road near to Park Grove which has an 8ft high wall on the apex - you cannot see what is coming the other way, and yet there are a number of drivers who decide to overtake a bike right there on the corner. The council have done nothing to prevent this occuring - but then I suppose we'll have to wait until a car smashes into the front of the number 13 bus coming the other way and kills its driver before something is done, that's usually how these things work... after the event. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

5:26am Sat 22 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

boardman_rider wrote:
So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse.
Exactly... I get fed up of the sheer number of drivers who have a parked car, waiting bus, or chicane on their side of the road - but instead of waiting they swing out and drive straight at me on the bike, forcing me to take evasive action even though the highway code states I have right of way... These drivers wouldn't like it if a lorry or a bus forced its way through in the same manner, and yet they then go ahead and try to bully cyclists into stopping for them.
[quote][p][bold]boardman_rider[/bold] wrote: So at the point of taking your test when you are told to pay attention for cyclists around you at what point did someone say "apart from when your car is bigger then there bike" this is why cyclists are knocked off on a a daily basis because people like yourself feel you own the road. If there is a cyclist approaching why shouldn't you slow down and wait. Your car weighs a couple of tons and does approx 50 times the speed of a bike. You won't be late by giving way once in a while. You sir are the reason cyclist are the victims of pointless abuse.[/p][/quote]Exactly... I get fed up of the sheer number of drivers who have a parked car, waiting bus, or chicane on their side of the road - but instead of waiting they swing out and drive straight at me on the bike, forcing me to take evasive action even though the highway code states I have right of way... These drivers wouldn't like it if a lorry or a bus forced its way through in the same manner, and yet they then go ahead and try to bully cyclists into stopping for them. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

5:32am Sat 22 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

TheManor wrote:
My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.
Take a closer look... the cycle lane DOES NOT have a stop line at that first set of lights. As described in the laws that govern road signage and lines, this is to be done where cycles can proceed to a further set of lights or filter lane. The council removed the green filter light because it was not required and was simply wasting electricity.

What suprised me a while back was when I followed the cycle lane through the small arch (staying in the cycle lane and so staying nice and legal), whilst another cyclist went through the large arch straight at oncoming traffic and then had the balls to tell me that I went through a red light!!

Similar cycle-advance setups exist at the bus gate where The Mount joins Blossom Street, where traffic from Grimston Bar and the sports village proceed beyond the B&Q traffic lights to head for the Badger Hill roundabout, there was another one too but I forget where.
[quote][p][bold]TheManor[/bold] wrote: My complaint is with cyclists who ignore traffic lights, especially those who are riding out of the city through Monk Bar. There *used* to be a filter lane for cyclists to take them through the bar, with a 'constantly on' green light for cyclists. There isn't any more, but cyclists still plough on through those first set of lights regardless. You can usually see at least a dozen cyclists doing this with every change of the lights in the morning and evening; it is extremely rare to see a cyclist stop at the lights. I do when I cycle in, but I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of cyclists ignore these traffic lights, and yet the commentators on this site who identify themselves as cyclists always claim that they are victims. I think there is fault on both sides.[/p][/quote]Take a closer look... the cycle lane DOES NOT have a stop line at that first set of lights. As described in the laws that govern road signage and lines, this is to be done where cycles can proceed to a further set of lights or filter lane. The council removed the green filter light because it was not required and was simply wasting electricity. What suprised me a while back was when I followed the cycle lane through the small arch (staying in the cycle lane and so staying nice and legal), whilst another cyclist went through the large arch straight at oncoming traffic and then had the balls to tell me that I went through a red light!! Similar cycle-advance setups exist at the bus gate where The Mount joins Blossom Street, where traffic from Grimston Bar and the sports village proceed beyond the B&Q traffic lights to head for the Badger Hill roundabout, there was another one too but I forget where. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

5:33am Sat 22 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

sniper 9964 wrote:
Cyclists are an absolute menace. Majority dont bother to obey the rules of the road. Traffic lights mean nothing to them. They make turns in the road where prohibited. Cycle on pavements and wrong way on a one way street. Dont bother to use lights in the dark. Its about time the police stamped this out
Cliché
[quote][p][bold]sniper 9964[/bold] wrote: Cyclists are an absolute menace. Majority dont bother to obey the rules of the road. Traffic lights mean nothing to them. They make turns in the road where prohibited. Cycle on pavements and wrong way on a one way street. Dont bother to use lights in the dark. Its about time the police stamped this out[/p][/quote]Cliché Magicman!
  • Score: 0

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