Cycle strategy

Cycle strategy

Cycle strategy

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LIKE Dawn Riley (Letters, March 17) I have experienced kind consideration from many drivers when cycling on rural roads.

However, these roads have their particular hazards, such as blind corners, a lower standard of surface repair, concealed exits and often tall hedgerows. Sadly a minority of drivers are not always patient with cyclists in these circumstances.

When approaching a blind corner, I always make a right shoulder check then move gradually from the edge towards the centre. A group of cyclists could maintain two by two formation in similar circumstances. This sends a strong message to following drivers that I do not wish to be overtaken. As soon I see a clear road ahead, I signal any following drivers to pass me, and give a courteous wave as they do.

Cycling groups usually arrange for the leader and rear ender to indicate approaching vehicles, potholes and when to single out. The golden rule is to anticipate and co-operate with other rural road users, but to also be prepared to act defensively.

Paul Hepworth, Windmill Rise, York

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3:36pm Tue 18 Mar 14

skyride leader says...

Good advice there Paul :-) .
Good advice there Paul :-) . skyride leader
  • Score: 14

3:40pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Lunatic says...

Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off.
Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off. Lunatic
  • Score: -25

4:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

skyride leader says...

Get over yourself lunatic , it's perfectly legal and safe to ride this way , try having a bit of patience on the road!
Get over yourself lunatic , it's perfectly legal and safe to ride this way , try having a bit of patience on the road! skyride leader
  • Score: 25

4:30pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Yorkieand says...

Lunatic wrote:
Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off.
This correctly titled poster just proves how difficult it is to reason with some people.
[quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off.[/p][/quote]This correctly titled poster just proves how difficult it is to reason with some people. Yorkieand
  • Score: 23

12:05am Wed 19 Mar 14

strangebuttrue? says...

It is a shame that in this case Paul has given some good advice but has once again tainted it with his usual get yourself into the middle of the road and make sure nobody can get past you. His best advice here was the bit about riding defensively, although I note he saved it as a last resort following the more aggressive approach he appears to favour, and then he says it is only something you should be prepared to do. When do you suggest a cyclist get defensive then Paul? After they have been hit by some impatient driver?

I rode round York for 30 years and as I have said before can only recall one problem I had when I misjudged the timing of the traffic lights and sent myself up the inside of a bus just as the lights changed - stupid I know. Main point is though riding defensively to me meant keeping out of harms way and not putting myself in front of anything that might squash me. When I glanced over my shoulder before pulling out if I thought for a second that whatever was approaching from behind could not or would not stop I slowed down and let it pass, a rare occurrence and not something which I can say inconvenienced me in any way. Never had anyone tooting their horn at me which, I note, Paul appears to be particularly proud of provoking this response from his other posts on here.
It is a shame that in this case Paul has given some good advice but has once again tainted it with his usual get yourself into the middle of the road and make sure nobody can get past you. His best advice here was the bit about riding defensively, although I note he saved it as a last resort following the more aggressive approach he appears to favour, and then he says it is only something you should be prepared to do. When do you suggest a cyclist get defensive then Paul? After they have been hit by some impatient driver? I rode round York for 30 years and as I have said before can only recall one problem I had when I misjudged the timing of the traffic lights and sent myself up the inside of a bus just as the lights changed - stupid I know. Main point is though riding defensively to me meant keeping out of harms way and not putting myself in front of anything that might squash me. When I glanced over my shoulder before pulling out if I thought for a second that whatever was approaching from behind could not or would not stop I slowed down and let it pass, a rare occurrence and not something which I can say inconvenienced me in any way. Never had anyone tooting their horn at me which, I note, Paul appears to be particularly proud of provoking this response from his other posts on here. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -27

3:56am Wed 19 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

An example of riding in the middle of the lane by necessity is at Monk Bar. I used to ride along there at the left side of the lane, but after several times when cars bullied me off the road in their attempt to be first (a few then turned into Aldwark), and I was almost pushed along by a van I then decided that the simple solution is to use the primary riding position for my own safety... there may be SOME people who don't like that, but if I was riding by the kerbside and they knocked me off the bike and caused me serious injury, then they'd have to pay out compensation (generally around the £2000-£5000 mark) - so you have to ask yourself if it's better to wait for all of 5 seconds or rush through, cause a collision, and then be a few thousand pounds out of pocket with the possibility of having a police record for driving without due care and consideration.......
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An example of riding in the middle of the lane by necessity is at Monk Bar. I used to ride along there at the left side of the lane, but after several times when cars bullied me off the road in their attempt to be first (a few then turned into Aldwark), and I was almost pushed along by a van I then decided that the simple solution is to use the primary riding position for my own safety... there may be SOME people who don't like that, but if I was riding by the kerbside and they knocked me off the bike and caused me serious injury, then they'd have to pay out compensation (generally around the £2000-£5000 mark) - so you have to ask yourself if it's better to wait for all of 5 seconds or rush through, cause a collision, and then be a few thousand pounds out of pocket with the possibility of having a police record for driving without due care and consideration....... .. Magicman!
  • Score: 32

12:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Lunatic says...

skyride leader wrote:
Get over yourself lunatic , it's perfectly legal and safe to ride this way , try having a bit of patience on the road!
I'm aware it's legal, chumly. Unlike the majority of cyclists I've read the Highway Code and taken the proficiency training. Frankly, I think it ought to be compulsory.

At the same time I'm also not stupid enough to make myself a bigger target when I'm on my bike. Consideration works both ways, and for me that means not cycling dangerously down the middle of a 60mph country lane just to be a passive aggressive jerk to the motorised road users.

Nothing unreasonable to expect respect and consideration on the road to work both ways. But there's a regular cycling ilk who frequent the letters pages who simply don't want to accept that.
[quote][p][bold]skyride leader[/bold] wrote: Get over yourself lunatic , it's perfectly legal and safe to ride this way , try having a bit of patience on the road![/p][/quote]I'm aware it's legal, chumly. Unlike the majority of cyclists I've read the Highway Code and taken the proficiency training. Frankly, I think it ought to be compulsory. At the same time I'm also not stupid enough to make myself a bigger target when I'm on my bike. Consideration works both ways, and for me that means not cycling dangerously down the middle of a 60mph country lane just to be a passive aggressive jerk to the motorised road users. Nothing unreasonable to expect respect and consideration on the road to work both ways. But there's a regular cycling ilk who frequent the letters pages who simply don't want to accept that. Lunatic
  • Score: -27

3:19pm Wed 19 Mar 14

SusieFothergill says...

As cyclists up at the University, promoting a challenge ride on June 22, we're proud to have safety the forefront of our planning. We've teamed up with safety specialist Cycle Alert (whose tags on bikes make them "visible"to buses on campus and around the city).
It would be great if all buses used this system. see www.yorkspace.net/yu
cycle for details
As cyclists up at the University, promoting a challenge ride on June 22, we're proud to have safety the forefront of our planning. We've teamed up with safety specialist Cycle Alert (whose tags on bikes make them "visible"to buses on campus and around the city). It would be great if all buses used this system. see www.yorkspace.net/yu cycle for details SusieFothergill
  • Score: 29

7:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Igiveinthen says...

Lunatic wrote:
Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off.
You'll get no where with the likes of Hepworth and tother Lycra lady, they'll keep expounding their stupid actions on the road in the belief they are bullet proof, until sadly they try it with the wrong driver, hope I'm wrong but I would not teach my children to emulate this manoeuvre.
[quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: Yep, that's right. Pull out into the middle of the road. It makes it far easier for a car to hit you, far more difficult to dodge out of the way of a bad driver, and generally just holds up traffic on rural roads and **** everybody off.[/p][/quote]You'll get no where with the likes of Hepworth and tother Lycra lady, they'll keep expounding their stupid actions on the road in the belief they are bullet proof, until sadly they try it with the wrong driver, hope I'm wrong but I would not teach my children to emulate this manoeuvre. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -29

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