Monk Stray is not the place for shindig

Monk Stray is not the place for shindig

Monk Stray is not the place for shindig

First published in Letters by

THE council has decided to turn a peaceful residential area of the city into a sort of Lycra-themed Glastonbury Festival.

To celebrate the Tour de France, the shindig is to be held on Monk Stray, a long narrow grassed area surrounded by homes, and it is to go on for nine days.

People are invited to pitch their tents, park their motorhomes, take part in various entertainments, purchase alcohol and generally revel.

Nearby residents, who will have to put up with this for almost a week and a half, were not consulted in advance.

There is a semblance of consultation going on now, after the fact, presumably to make the council appear thoughtful and responsible, which it obviously isn’t.

A few years ago, the council wanted to give itself permission to hold events on the stray, ranging from beer tents, to wrestling and loud entertainment.

Finally, after weeks of complaints, the council abandoned the idea.

So the council knew well that local people would strongly oppose its plan.

It is a sad thing to realise the council cares so little for the wishes of residents.

The stray should be kept as a pleasant site for children’s play, dog-walkers, joggers, kite-fliers and amateur footballers, as it has always been.

Bob McMillan, Straylands Grove, Stockton Lane, York.

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11:07am Thu 13 Mar 14

TheTruthHurts says...

a sort of Lycra-themed Glastonbury Festival


Gosh the thought of that is making me well **** :-)
[quote] a sort of Lycra-themed Glastonbury Festival [/quote] Gosh the thought of that is making me well **** :-) TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 3

11:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

TheTruthHurts says...

that should read h orn y lol
that should read h orn y lol TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Dude makes a good case.
Dude makes a good case. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -2

1:48pm Thu 13 Mar 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

What is it about lycra that upsets people so much?
Or actually, is it just a good sound bite type of comment so that it gets a headline?

Lycra has nothing to do with the problem - its about a concern that some of the people who are expected may be a bit noisy near some homes.

We have multi day race meeting on the Knavemire several times a year, and all those drunken people who use South Bank as a giant toilet. So Monk Stray should be treated differently? Hmm....
What is it about lycra that upsets people so much? Or actually, is it just a good sound bite type of comment so that it gets a headline? Lycra has nothing to do with the problem - its about a concern that some of the people who are expected may be a bit noisy near some homes. We have multi day race meeting on the Knavemire several times a year, and all those drunken people who use South Bank as a giant toilet. So Monk Stray should be treated differently? Hmm.... MarkyMarkMark
  • Score: 29

4:09pm Thu 13 Mar 14

wallman says...

MarkyMarkMark wrote:
What is it about lycra that upsets people so much?
Or actually, is it just a good sound bite type of comment so that it gets a headline?

Lycra has nothing to do with the problem - its about a concern that some of the people who are expected may be a bit noisy near some homes.

We have multi day race meeting on the Knavemire several times a year, and all those drunken people who use South Bank as a giant toilet. So Monk Stray should be treated differently? Hmm....
yes
[quote][p][bold]MarkyMarkMark[/bold] wrote: What is it about lycra that upsets people so much? Or actually, is it just a good sound bite type of comment so that it gets a headline? Lycra has nothing to do with the problem - its about a concern that some of the people who are expected may be a bit noisy near some homes. We have multi day race meeting on the Knavemire several times a year, and all those drunken people who use South Bank as a giant toilet. So Monk Stray should be treated differently? Hmm....[/p][/quote]yes wallman
  • Score: -10

5:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

spiritofyork says...

Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.
Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC. spiritofyork
  • Score: -18

5:43pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Good letter, Monks Stray works well as it is, don't mess with it.

People have been betting on horses running on Knavesmire for a very long time, and all the crowd that goes with it. Not the same thing at all, you knew the situation before you moved to South Bank.

This is just bullying by the Council, just because they can!
Good letter, Monks Stray works well as it is, don't mess with it. People have been betting on horses running on Knavesmire for a very long time, and all the crowd that goes with it. Not the same thing at all, you knew the situation before you moved to South Bank. This is just bullying by the Council, just because they can! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -11

8:46pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Yorkieand says...

spiritofyork wrote:
Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.
I'm a resident and I want to see it here.

Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery!
[quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.[/p][/quote]I'm a resident and I want to see it here. Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery! Yorkieand
  • Score: 26

10:17pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Dr Robert says...

Cold as Christmas, just comes out with common sense every time.
Cold as Christmas, just comes out with common sense every time. Dr Robert
  • Score: -17

10:23pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

You'll do for me Dr Robert.
You'll do for me Dr Robert. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -20

10:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Yorkieand says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Good letter, Monks Stray works well as it is, don't mess with it.

People have been betting on horses running on Knavesmire for a very long time, and all the crowd that goes with it. Not the same thing at all, you knew the situation before you moved to South Bank.

This is just bullying by the Council, just because they can!
The horse and cart worked well for hundreds of years. Should we have stuck with that? It's a once in a lifetime event that will last a few days. Get over it!
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Good letter, Monks Stray works well as it is, don't mess with it. People have been betting on horses running on Knavesmire for a very long time, and all the crowd that goes with it. Not the same thing at all, you knew the situation before you moved to South Bank. This is just bullying by the Council, just because they can![/p][/quote]The horse and cart worked well for hundreds of years. Should we have stuck with that? It's a once in a lifetime event that will last a few days. Get over it! Yorkieand
  • Score: 26

12:41am Fri 14 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

spiritofyork wrote:
Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.
Who told you that you were allowed outside?
[quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.[/p][/quote]Who told you that you were allowed outside? Magicman!
  • Score: 3

12:43am Fri 14 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

Yorkieand wrote:
spiritofyork wrote:
Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.
I'm a resident and I want to see it here.

Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery!
Exactly... the misnamed 'spiritofyork' only holds the views of an incredibly small but vocal minority in the city, and old-fashioned group of cyclophobes who would rather go back to the 1950's and all that entails.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkieand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.[/p][/quote]I'm a resident and I want to see it here. Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery![/p][/quote]Exactly... the misnamed 'spiritofyork' only holds the views of an incredibly small but vocal minority in the city, and old-fashioned group of cyclophobes who would rather go back to the 1950's and all that entails. Magicman!
  • Score: 6

6:39am Fri 14 Mar 14

calmdownyork says...

The camping is not on the part of Monk Stray pictured nor near any built up residential areas. It's up near Monks Cross. The spectator hub is on the bit pictured, but it's only one day not nine.

The Tour de France is a massive opportunity for the city to gain a worldwide TV advertisement. If you don't want it here, then perhaps you don't care about the thousands of local people employed in the tourism industry.
The camping is not on the part of Monk Stray pictured nor near any built up residential areas. It's up near Monks Cross. The spectator hub is on the bit pictured, but it's only one day not nine. The Tour de France is a massive opportunity for the city to gain a worldwide TV advertisement. If you don't want it here, then perhaps you don't care about the thousands of local people employed in the tourism industry. calmdownyork
  • Score: 1

8:12am Fri 14 Mar 14

Exlabourmember says...

calmdownyork wrote:
The camping is not on the part of Monk Stray pictured nor near any built up residential areas. It's up near Monks Cross. The spectator hub is on the bit pictured, but it's only one day not nine.

The Tour de France is a massive opportunity for the city to gain a worldwide TV advertisement. If you don't want it here, then perhaps you don't care about the thousands of local people employed in the tourism industry.
That's the section of Monk stray used in the photograph on the council website advertising the campsite. Are you saying the council is using false advertising?

Also the "spectator hub" is two days not one so you're wrong there as well
[quote][p][bold]calmdownyork[/bold] wrote: The camping is not on the part of Monk Stray pictured nor near any built up residential areas. It's up near Monks Cross. The spectator hub is on the bit pictured, but it's only one day not nine. The Tour de France is a massive opportunity for the city to gain a worldwide TV advertisement. If you don't want it here, then perhaps you don't care about the thousands of local people employed in the tourism industry.[/p][/quote]That's the section of Monk stray used in the photograph on the council website advertising the campsite. Are you saying the council is using false advertising? Also the "spectator hub" is two days not one so you're wrong there as well Exlabourmember
  • Score: 1

9:01am Fri 14 Mar 14

The Great Buda says...

Magicman! wrote:
Yorkieand wrote:
spiritofyork wrote:
Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.
I'm a resident and I want to see it here.

Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery!
Exactly... the misnamed 'spiritofyork' only holds the views of an incredibly small but vocal minority in the city, and old-fashioned group of cyclophobes who would rather go back to the 1950's and all that entails.
1950's you mean 1550's?

A very backward (and seemingly bitter) person.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkieand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: Foreign bike race should not be in York anyway. GET OUT NOW, WE DONT WANT IT HERE. think of the residents before you think of cyclists and foreigners please CoYC.[/p][/quote]I'm a resident and I want to see it here. Perhaps you should just sleek off back to your pit of misery![/p][/quote]Exactly... the misnamed 'spiritofyork' only holds the views of an incredibly small but vocal minority in the city, and old-fashioned group of cyclophobes who would rather go back to the 1950's and all that entails.[/p][/quote]1950's you mean 1550's? A very backward (and seemingly bitter) person. The Great Buda
  • Score: 2

11:54am Fri 14 Mar 14

Firedrake says...

I think all sorts of noisy things probably happened on the Stray in the in 1550s, Buda. There was even a battle in the 1450s!

Seriously though, people I've spoken to who live nearby are not so much concerned about this event per se ... just that the drinks and alchohol license/licence/lise
nce/lisense (I can never spell that word!) seems to be more than just a "one off".
I think all sorts of noisy things probably happened on the Stray in the in 1550s, Buda. There was even a battle in the 1450s! Seriously though, people I've spoken to who live nearby are not so much concerned about this event per se ... just that the drinks and alchohol license/licence/lise nce/lisense (I can never spell that word!) seems to be more than just a "one off". Firedrake
  • Score: 11

1:31pm Fri 14 Mar 14

pedalling paul says...

According to the CoYC website....
"The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre."
Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting
According to the CoYC website.... "The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre." Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting pedalling paul
  • Score: 27

5:16pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Ichabod76 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
According to the CoYC website....
"The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre."
Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting
Is this the same meeting that Cllr Crisp tried to mislead the residents, only to be corrected by a council officer ?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: According to the CoYC website.... "The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre." Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting[/p][/quote]Is this the same meeting that Cllr Crisp tried to mislead the residents, only to be corrected by a council officer ? Ichabod76
  • Score: -26

8:39am Sat 15 Mar 14

Thislittleold market town says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
According to the CoYC website....
"The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre."
Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting
Is this the same meeting that Cllr Crisp tried to mislead the residents, only to be corrected by a council officer ?
Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: According to the CoYC website.... "The site is just 2 minutes walk from to the Monks Cross and Vangarde Shopping Centres, Park & Ride route and a 15 minute walk to the City Centre." Some unofficial scaremongering leaflets were seemingly distributed amongst residents nearer to York, which surfaced last night at a stormy public meeting[/p][/quote]Is this the same meeting that Cllr Crisp tried to mislead the residents, only to be corrected by a council officer ?[/p][/quote]Ha ha Thislittleold market town
  • Score: -11

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