Such a terrible loss

York Press: Such a terrible loss Such a terrible loss

TO LOSE someone close is agony.

Recently Megan Roberts was found to have drowned, possibly because she slipped into the river when she was befuddled by alcohol. There have been others who have ended up in one of York`s two rivers and now there is another young person missing after a night out.

Is it not illegal to serve alcohol to someone who is already drunk or to buy it for them? Do bars observe this?

Maybe it would prevent accidents happening if groups of friends designated one person to remain sober and to watch out for the others.

Rose Berl, De Little Court, Vine Street, York.

 

• HOW extremely said it is that a York St John University student has thought to have drowned in the River Ouse, after possibly having had too much alcohol.

And now a young man is missing in what appears to be similar circumstances in York.

This leads me to ask what measures are in place, and being enforced to protect people, especially young people from over- consumption of alcohol.

Surely those selling such a harmful drug must take more responsibility for what happens on their premises and the subsequent possible consequences. Even the loss of one life, especially a young person, is far too high a price to pay.

Janet E Rowntree, Escrick, York.

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11:48am Tue 11 Mar 14

dsom73 says...

That's right Janet, Alcohol's a drug. It kills more people than Crack, Heroin and Cocaine combined each and every year. But it's OK to drink your drug - they meant we shouldn't do those other drugs, those untaxed drugs.

We have "Just call FRANK" ads followed by ads for Vodka - it's ridiculous.

As long as all other drugs are illegal, young people will die as a result of thinking Alcohol just a drink, just a night out, just abit of fun.

It is a poison. That feeling you get - it's the feeling of being poisoned. OK in small doses, but deadly, in lots of different ways, in large amounts.

Sure people will try blaming the council for not having CCTV by the rivers, but the fault lies with the companies who own the pubs and clubs, the corporations that make the poison and the Governments of this world who continue to flog this War on Drugs fallacy. Once that is dealt with, we'll start to see proper substance education for our children and they'll stop dying in terribly tragic circumstances.
That's right Janet, Alcohol's a drug. It kills more people than Crack, Heroin and Cocaine combined each and every year. But it's OK to drink your drug - they meant we shouldn't do those other drugs, those untaxed drugs. We have "Just call FRANK" ads followed by ads for Vodka - it's ridiculous. As long as all other drugs are illegal, young people will die as a result of thinking Alcohol just a drink, just a night out, just abit of fun. It is a poison. That feeling you get - it's the feeling of being poisoned. OK in small doses, but deadly, in lots of different ways, in large amounts. Sure people will try blaming the council for not having CCTV by the rivers, but the fault lies with the companies who own the pubs and clubs, the corporations that make the poison and the Governments of this world who continue to flog this War on Drugs fallacy. Once that is dealt with, we'll start to see proper substance education for our children and they'll stop dying in terribly tragic circumstances. dsom73
  • Score: 6

12:02pm Tue 11 Mar 14

inthesticks says...

A lot of York residents have gone into town and got drunk at some time in their lives. It was just a terrible accident, one which would not have been changed or prevented by having CCTV by the river (and we would need hundreds of cameras).
Yes there is a law preventing intoxicated people being served more alcohol but it is never enforced and the police don`t seem interested in getting involved in enforcing it. Pubs caught could have their licences taken away. Imagine those bars in York turning away half their punters (and profit) every weekend.
A lot of York residents have gone into town and got drunk at some time in their lives. It was just a terrible accident, one which would not have been changed or prevented by having CCTV by the river (and we would need hundreds of cameras). Yes there is a law preventing intoxicated people being served more alcohol but it is never enforced and the police don`t seem interested in getting involved in enforcing it. Pubs caught could have their licences taken away. Imagine those bars in York turning away half their punters (and profit) every weekend. inthesticks
  • Score: 10

1:01pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

It saddens me greatly.
It's sad that people can get so wrecked that accidents can happen like that and it saddens me that such a dangerous drug is legal and widely available while the relatively benign drug cannabis remains illegal.
It saddens me greatly. It's sad that people can get so wrecked that accidents can happen like that and it saddens me that such a dangerous drug is legal and widely available while the relatively benign drug cannabis remains illegal. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -2

1:02pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Loollah says...

Before the council install new CCTV cameras, they really should consider upgrading their existing ones! The quality is terrible! There are far more superior CCTV systems available nowadays! Just think about all those unidentifiable, grainy pictures that the police release to the press to help identify witnesses and suspects. Imagine how much it would increase their chances of identifying people from much clearer images in which you could see a person, not just a dark blob! In the long run it would help in so many more cases!
Before the council install new CCTV cameras, they really should consider upgrading their existing ones! The quality is terrible! There are far more superior CCTV systems available nowadays! Just think about all those unidentifiable, grainy pictures that the police release to the press to help identify witnesses and suspects. Imagine how much it would increase their chances of identifying people from much clearer images in which you could see a person, not just a dark blob! In the long run it would help in so many more cases! Loollah
  • Score: 4

9:47pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mike.......durkin says...

i just dont get it av been drunk menny times on the way home to fulfurd next to the river un les some one push them in?.....
i just dont get it av been drunk menny times on the way home to fulfurd next to the river un les some one push them in?..... mike.......durkin
  • Score: 0

2:12pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Maquis says...

It is such a shame and a tragedy what has happened to this young lady.

However to blame the pubs as the letter writer does is totally disingenuous and totally misses the point of the problem with drinking.

Most, yes MOST students drink before leaving home. Many to the point of being too drunk to get into pubs when they first arrive in town.

You will hear it from Taxi drivers across the city, this is happening where they are so drunk that they can barely walk before the night out.

I cannot speak specifically for Popworld where she was last seen, or what she had to drink in there, but most pubs and bars would not serve alcohol to somebody so clearly drunk that she could not walk home safely, and the minority of bars that do so, should be clamped down on.

However the main culprits of this are the off trade retailers such as Tesco who sell large quantities of alcohol at pocket money prices that should be stopped as a large number of people clearly cannot drink responsibly when it is so cheap and available. For the price of a vodka and coke in a pub, they sell a bottle of wine, or six bottles of beer, or a bottle of own brand spirits. At home when you are clearly drunk, there is nobody to refuse you another, the fridge is always willing.
It is such a shame and a tragedy what has happened to this young lady. However to blame the pubs as the letter writer does is totally disingenuous and totally misses the point of the problem with drinking. Most, yes MOST students drink before leaving home. Many to the point of being too drunk to get into pubs when they first arrive in town. You will hear it from Taxi drivers across the city, this is happening where they are so drunk that they can barely walk before the night out. I cannot speak specifically for Popworld where she was last seen, or what she had to drink in there, but most pubs and bars would not serve alcohol to somebody so clearly drunk that she could not walk home safely, and the minority of bars that do so, should be clamped down on. However the main culprits of this are the off trade retailers such as Tesco who sell large quantities of alcohol at pocket money prices that should be stopped as a large number of people clearly cannot drink responsibly when it is so cheap and available. For the price of a vodka and coke in a pub, they sell a bottle of wine, or six bottles of beer, or a bottle of own brand spirits. At home when you are clearly drunk, there is nobody to refuse you another, the fridge is always willing. Maquis
  • Score: 0

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