York is becoming too difficult to visit

York Press: Monks Cross shopping centre where Mr Tite found parking easier Monks Cross shopping centre where Mr Tite found parking easier

WE used to visit York once a month, but now find the experience so difficult and inconvenient we are taking our business elsewhere.

The parking has always been too expensive, but there has never been a shortage. Today in our new car, a Land Rover Defender, we could not gain entry to our usual car parks as all were limited to vehicles of less than two metres in height. We avoid multi-storey car parks, but even those we visited at ground level were inaccessible.

We do not find it convenient to use Park&Ride as we visit shops and businesses away from the centre and make numerous trips back to our car throughout our day.

Added to this, Lendal Bridge is closed during the day and a massive detour is needed to get from one side of town to the other.

So we gave up. We took our business to Monks Cross. We parked for free, we parked easily and we parked near the shops and restaurant we wanted to visit. The smaller local shops and businesses we usually frequent missed out on our money.

In future we will take our business to Leeds or Hull. York has reached a tipping point. While I can understand the need to encourage cars away from the centre, a balance has to be found or money and shoppers will be driven away.

Jon Tite and family, Eastgate, Driffield.

 

• SHOULD someone explain to Coun James Alexander about the “shortfall” in the finances for the car parking for the city of York (The Press, January 29)?

If the council does not attract people to see this beautiful city of ours, or if they put stupid restrictions in the way of strangers finding their way to the car parks, what else can they expect?

I can see a further shortfall in the future, if the letters from annoyed people caught in the Lendal Bridge trap are anything to go by.

Rumours have it that it has already been decided Lendal Bridge will be closed permanently after the trial period.

I do hope that this has not been decided before the people of York have had a chance to have their say.

Finally, to put this target figure of £6 million for car parking into perspective, there is a well-known saying – Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

LJ Steels, Tadcaster, York.

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10:57am Thu 6 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you.
If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you. mjgyork
  • Score: 56

11:12am Thu 6 Feb 14

anti-rant says...

York Press baiting the trolls again.
York Press baiting the trolls again. anti-rant
  • Score: 105

11:17am Thu 6 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

mjgyork wrote:
If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you.
The Defender is the original working Landrover and judging from the letter writer's address he may have good reason to own it - they certainly aren't bought for status or urban use, but Ignorance is worn like a badge of honour by a few posters
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you.[/p][/quote]The Defender is the original working Landrover and judging from the letter writer's address he may have good reason to own it - they certainly aren't bought for status or urban use, but Ignorance is worn like a badge of honour by a few posters Mulgrave
  • Score: 34

11:24am Thu 6 Feb 14

The Great Buda says...

Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever. The Great Buda
  • Score: 71

11:32am Thu 6 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

Mulgrave:
Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?
Mulgrave: Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then? mjgyork
  • Score: 17

12:00pm Thu 6 Feb 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid?
These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park.
mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid? These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: 1465

12:03pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

mjgyork wrote:
Mulgrave:
Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?
A - the terrain doesn't have to be mountainous to require four wheel drive to be able to gain traction off road and B - that letter is from Driffield. As I was saying.....
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: Mulgrave: Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?[/p][/quote]A - the terrain doesn't have to be mountainous to require four wheel drive to be able to gain traction off road and B - that letter is from Driffield. As I was saying..... Mulgrave
  • Score: -9

12:09pm Thu 6 Feb 14

micky moodys hat says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid?
These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park.
What like a Nissan made in Sunderland or a Honda made in Swindon......:O)
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid? These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park.[/p][/quote]What like a Nissan made in Sunderland or a Honda made in Swindon......:O) micky moodys hat
  • Score: 13

12:44pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Lunatic says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid?
These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park.
Lots of foreign marques are built in the UK, providing jobs for British workers. Hell, 1/3 of all Ford engines globally are built right here in Blighty. Your argument is somewhat redundant.

It seems asinine to blame a car's unsuitability for York's roads on the roads themselves. My car won't fit down the Shambles. I'm not blaming the Middle Ages for that. I just walk the 1.5 miles into town. Or, if I need my car, park behind the station in the APCOA car park for £2 all day. No height restriction there either.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: mjgyork, Land Rovers are built in the UK, providing British jobs for British workers. Would you rather these people bought a Japanese made hybrid? These people are making the valid point most of us know that York is becoming worse, not better both to travel around and indeed park.[/p][/quote]Lots of foreign marques are built in the UK, providing jobs for British workers. Hell, 1/3 of all Ford engines globally are built right here in Blighty. Your argument is somewhat redundant. It seems asinine to blame a car's unsuitability for York's roads on the roads themselves. My car won't fit down the Shambles. I'm not blaming the Middle Ages for that. I just walk the 1.5 miles into town. Or, if I need my car, park behind the station in the APCOA car park for £2 all day. No height restriction there either. Lunatic
  • Score: 36

12:46pm Thu 6 Feb 14

York Fox says...

Quite right Mulgrave, this isn't a glamorous vehicle it's a practical one for that area. mjgyork must have missed the address.

There will be more and more people like this. Public transport is not good enough in York to replace the car, but the car is virtually banned. End result, decreasing visitors and decreasing spend in the city centre.

It's all very well stopping cars, but you must provide a viable alternative, and York has failed to do that.
Quite right Mulgrave, this isn't a glamorous vehicle it's a practical one for that area. mjgyork must have missed the address. There will be more and more people like this. Public transport is not good enough in York to replace the car, but the car is virtually banned. End result, decreasing visitors and decreasing spend in the city centre. It's all very well stopping cars, but you must provide a viable alternative, and York has failed to do that. York Fox
  • Score: -37

1:02pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council.

Get them OUT in 2015 !
The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: 5570

1:13pm Thu 6 Feb 14

CaroleBaines says...

Probably get the car stolen in Hull or Leeds.... :-)
Probably get the car stolen in Hull or Leeds.... :-) CaroleBaines
  • Score: 11

1:21pm Thu 6 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council.

Get them OUT in 2015 !
THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it!
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ![/p][/quote]THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it! mjgyork
  • Score: -54

1:27pm Thu 6 Feb 14

WhyEver says...

I'm sure the Defender driver will find that there are lots of car parks it cannot get into, and to single out York car parks is bizarre.

As for the decision on the Lendal Bridge trial, James Alexander has already said on Radio York that he expects the cabinet to make the closure permanent. So the idea of running a 6-month trial and getting Leeds University to analyse the results was just a smokescreen.
I'm sure the Defender driver will find that there are lots of car parks it cannot get into, and to single out York car parks is bizarre. As for the decision on the Lendal Bridge trial, James Alexander has already said on Radio York that he expects the cabinet to make the closure permanent. So the idea of running a 6-month trial and getting Leeds University to analyse the results was just a smokescreen. WhyEver
  • Score: 56

2:28pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Tug job says...

The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up! Tug job
  • Score: 38

4:20pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Tug job wrote:
The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ?

Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps !
,
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! , Rocking Horse
  • Score: -29

4:29pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

mjgyork wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 !
THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it!
I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York.

They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose.

They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes.

They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion.
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ![/p][/quote]THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it![/p][/quote]I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York. They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose. They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes. They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion. Rocking Horse
  • Score: -42

4:32pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Not jealous are you ?

Not much !!!
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]Not jealous are you ? Not much !!! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -20

4:41pm Thu 6 Feb 14

strangebuttrue? says...

York's anti car council seem to be doing exactly what they set out to do - rid the city of cars. Never mind that that damages York's economy and makes life miserable, with the added pollution and endless delays, for those who live here as well.

As I have said before my bike is staying in the garage until the council stop trying to bully me out of the car. I will also use the car even when I don't need to because I will not give in to bullies as once you do you will always be a victim.
York's anti car council seem to be doing exactly what they set out to do - rid the city of cars. Never mind that that damages York's economy and makes life miserable, with the added pollution and endless delays, for those who live here as well. As I have said before my bike is staying in the garage until the council stop trying to bully me out of the car. I will also use the car even when I don't need to because I will not give in to bullies as once you do you will always be a victim. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 2

4:55pm Thu 6 Feb 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Micky, I had in mind the Toy*ta hybrid, as used by Ken Livingstone and made in Japan. So much for him supporting the UK.
Micky, I had in mind the Toy*ta hybrid, as used by Ken Livingstone and made in Japan. So much for him supporting the UK. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -20

4:55pm Thu 6 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

anti-rant wrote:
York Press baiting the trolls again.
Not sure I fully understand the meaning of the comment, so for clarification.

Is the comment (York Press baiting the trolls again) directed at:

1. Anonymous posters (generally speaking most are).
2. Anyone who disagrees with the letter writer.
3. Anyone who agrees with the letter writer.

From my understanding apposing views and anonymity alone do not constitute Troll activity. What would be a concern is if anyone believed that only one view could be expressed and anything other would be seen as Troll activity, thereby justifying efforts to make York a troll free zone.

Plenty of activity happens after hours that could be interpreted as attempting to make York a troll free zone but it's been ineffective, just as many posts but with the added amusement of seeing how desperate some interested group has become.

Anyway if someone could enlighten me as to what a troll is in this instance I would appreciate it.
[quote][p][bold]anti-rant[/bold] wrote: York Press baiting the trolls again.[/p][/quote]Not sure I fully understand the meaning of the comment, so for clarification. Is the comment (York Press baiting the trolls again) directed at: 1. Anonymous posters (generally speaking most are). 2. Anyone who disagrees with the letter writer. 3. Anyone who agrees with the letter writer. From my understanding apposing views and anonymity alone do not constitute Troll activity. What would be a concern is if anyone believed that only one view could be expressed and anything other would be seen as Troll activity, thereby justifying efforts to make York a troll free zone. Plenty of activity happens after hours that could be interpreted as attempting to make York a troll free zone but it's been ineffective, just as many posts but with the added amusement of seeing how desperate some interested group has become. Anyway if someone could enlighten me as to what a troll is in this instance I would appreciate it. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -15

7:49pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Tug job says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote:
The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ?

Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps !
,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant? Tug job
  • Score: 15

7:55pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Tug job says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Micky, I had in mind the Toy*ta hybrid, as used by Ken Livingstone and made in Japan. So much for him supporting the UK.
Perhaps Livingstone bought the particular model you say he did because he thought it was the best/greenest car available. Is everything in your home, or that you own, manufactured in the UK? If not, you can't really complain about someone else buying goods made overseas, can you?
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Micky, I had in mind the Toy*ta hybrid, as used by Ken Livingstone and made in Japan. So much for him supporting the UK.[/p][/quote]Perhaps Livingstone bought the particular model you say he did because he thought it was the best/greenest car available. Is everything in your home, or that you own, manufactured in the UK? If not, you can't really complain about someone else buying goods made overseas, can you? Tug job
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Mr John says...

I'd like to see a city centre with no cars. However, cars have to cross the Ouse somewhere when travelling east to west and vice versa and there are a limited number of crossing points. Does the Council actually have a coherent transport strategy that focuses on the needs of businesses, the citizens and visitors. If so where is it published and does include further bridge building.
I'd like to see a city centre with no cars. However, cars have to cross the Ouse somewhere when travelling east to west and vice versa and there are a limited number of crossing points. Does the Council actually have a coherent transport strategy that focuses on the needs of businesses, the citizens and visitors. If so where is it published and does include further bridge building. Mr John
  • Score: 17

9:12pm Thu 6 Feb 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Tug Job, even my apples and pears are British. just don't ask about the bananas!
Tug Job, even my apples and pears are British. just don't ask about the bananas! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -7

10:06pm Thu 6 Feb 14

cas540 says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Not jealous are you ?

Not much !!!
Jealous and not very good at spelling
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]Not jealous are you ? Not much !!![/p][/quote]Jealous and not very good at spelling cas540
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

mjgyork wrote:
Mulgrave:
Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?
I think you need to read the letter again, the guy comes from Driffield, and has been pointed out the Land Rover Defender is a sensible vehicle considering the road from Driffield to York during the winter, it's not a 'Chelsea Tractor', and anyway what gives you the right to criticise the type of vehicle someone buys, or are you just one of those jealous anti-car holier than thow Luddites.
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: Mulgrave: Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?[/p][/quote]I think you need to read the letter again, the guy comes from Driffield, and has been pointed out the Land Rover Defender is a sensible vehicle considering the road from Driffield to York during the winter, it's not a 'Chelsea Tractor', and anyway what gives you the right to criticise the type of vehicle someone buys, or are you just one of those jealous anti-car holier than thow Luddites. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 13

10:39pm Thu 6 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Message for the mark-down mongrel, somebody has posted on the articles you have already trashed.

Better go and do them, woof, woof.
Message for the mark-down mongrel, somebody has posted on the articles you have already trashed. Better go and do them, woof, woof. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -3

10:58pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Loollah says...

I think you'll find Leeds to be just as bad if not worse for parking. The majority of parking is in multi storey carparks and the hour price is higher than York if you want to park anywhere near the city centre!
I think you'll find Leeds to be just as bad if not worse for parking. The majority of parking is in multi storey carparks and the hour price is higher than York if you want to park anywhere near the city centre! Loollah
  • Score: 13

12:17am Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Tug job wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you.

The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors.

The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them.

When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York.

Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game !

I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities !
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?[/p][/quote]Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you. The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors. The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them. When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York. Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game ! I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -72

12:25am Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

I see that the Council/Labour score hacker has given my first post a score of +5544, no doubt to make it look like I'd hacked it myself.

The trouble is, they then gave my other posts -17 and -20 ?!!!

So obvious, and so stupid - just like the marxist regime they seek to defend !
I see that the Council/Labour score hacker has given my first post a score of +5544, no doubt to make it look like I'd hacked it myself. The trouble is, they then gave my other posts -17 and -20 ?!!! So obvious, and so stupid - just like the marxist regime they seek to defend ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -106

7:18am Fri 7 Feb 14

NoMorePlease says...

If you can afford an expensive car then you can afford expensive parking
If you can afford an expensive car then you can afford expensive parking NoMorePlease
  • Score: -2

7:46am Fri 7 Feb 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Oooooooh what drama.
Oooooooh what drama. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 7

8:59am Fri 7 Feb 14

perplexed says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you.

The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors.

The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them.

When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York.

Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game !

I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities !
i think we can all agree that this council have made some terrible errors of judgement along with the Government of the day, but the content of the above is bordering on disturbing and not for political reasons.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?[/p][/quote]Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you. The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors. The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them. When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York. Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game ! I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities ![/p][/quote]i think we can all agree that this council have made some terrible errors of judgement along with the Government of the day, but the content of the above is bordering on disturbing and not for political reasons. perplexed
  • Score: 16

9:13am Fri 7 Feb 14

The Great Buda says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Not jealous are you ?

Not much !!!
No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous.

Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]Not jealous are you ? Not much !!![/p][/quote]No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous. Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it. The Great Buda
  • Score: 8

9:23am Fri 7 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
mjgyork wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 !
THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it!
I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York.

They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose.

They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes.

They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion.
Cobblers!
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ![/p][/quote]THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it![/p][/quote]I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York. They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose. They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes. They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion.[/p][/quote]Cobblers! mjgyork
  • Score: 15

9:47am Fri 7 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

NoMorePlease wrote:
If you can afford an expensive car then you can afford expensive parking
I have an "expensive" car - because I have spent a lifetime practising good old Yorkshire values, that includes the car lease; 3 years use of a £35k car for the daily equivalent of 20 fags and a pint. So much seething resentment behind a lot of posts.
[quote][p][bold]NoMorePlease[/bold] wrote: If you can afford an expensive car then you can afford expensive parking[/p][/quote]I have an "expensive" car - because I have spent a lifetime practising good old Yorkshire values, that includes the car lease; 3 years use of a £35k car for the daily equivalent of 20 fags and a pint. So much seething resentment behind a lot of posts. Mulgrave
  • Score: 6

11:45am Fri 7 Feb 14

Major Bloodnok says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council.

Get them OUT in 2015 !
Well said Rocking Horse.....I think Lord Haw Haw at the council must have been of sick....re no thumbs down.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ![/p][/quote]Well said Rocking Horse.....I think Lord Haw Haw at the council must have been of sick....re no thumbs down. Major Bloodnok
  • Score: -8

12:03pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tug job says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you. The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors. The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them. When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York. Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game ! I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities !
This is a ridiculous point of view for three reasons: first, do you really think that the senior executives of organisations (either private or public sector) make all of their business decions purely on whether a particular issue affects them as an individual, or upon the basis of how an individual issue will affect their own loyalties and alliegances? ; second, the place of one's birth, or where on lives, is extremely unlikely to be a major factor when making a business decision; third, absolutely othing wrong with people applying for jobs in other places - I'm York born and bred but now live just outside Chicago and work for as a regional executive for a Canadian-owned railway freight company - the decisions I make are based on providing a high quality service to our existing customers and idenitfying opportunites to attract new customers by extenind our core offer to meet their bespoke needs and requirements.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?[/p][/quote]Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you. The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors. The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them. When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York. Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game ! I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities ![/p][/quote]This is a ridiculous point of view for three reasons: first, do you really think that the senior executives of organisations (either private or public sector) make all of their business decions purely on whether a particular issue affects them as an individual, or upon the basis of how an individual issue will affect their own loyalties and alliegances? ; second, the place of one's birth, or where on lives, is extremely unlikely to be a major factor when making a business decision; third, absolutely othing wrong with people applying for jobs in other places - I'm York born and bred but now live just outside Chicago and work for as a regional executive for a Canadian-owned railway freight company - the decisions I make are based on providing a high quality service to our existing customers and idenitfying opportunites to attract new customers by extenind our core offer to meet their bespoke needs and requirements. Tug job
  • Score: 8

12:29pm Fri 7 Feb 14

sounds weird but says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
I see that the Council/Labour score hacker has given my first post a score of +5544, no doubt to make it look like I'd hacked it myself. The trouble is, they then gave my other posts -17 and -20 ?!!! So obvious, and so stupid - just like the marxist regime they seek to defend !
Yes its all getting a bit silly with the hacker marking - sort it out York Press!
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: I see that the Council/Labour score hacker has given my first post a score of +5544, no doubt to make it look like I'd hacked it myself. The trouble is, they then gave my other posts -17 and -20 ?!!! So obvious, and so stupid - just like the marxist regime they seek to defend ![/p][/quote]Yes its all getting a bit silly with the hacker marking - sort it out York Press! sounds weird but
  • Score: -2

12:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

mjgyork wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
mjgyork wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 !
THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it!
I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York. They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose. They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes. They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion.
Cobblers!
Typical ignorant comment from their followers.

They cannot disprove (what I know to be true) with anything factual or tangible, and just resort to the mentality of foolishness.

They're marxists and they know they are !
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: The point is people are avoiding York, because of the destructive mismanagement by the marxist regime at the Council. Get them OUT in 2015 ![/p][/quote]THE POINT IS: that traffic management in York cannot and should not be determined by visitor, no matter how frequent. In particular their inability to navigate and read road signs properly. AND their are far more pressing issues that we WHO DO LIVE HERE need to address. Scaremongering about lost jobs is not a valid argument. As for Marxist... Every read the man... I doubt it![/p][/quote]I'm sorry, but there is substantial evidence that there is a marxist cell (cabal/clique) operating in York. They have connections with various charities/NGO's who are run by marxists, like NESTA, DEMOS and Common Purpose. They are behind things like York's bid to be a UNESCO City of Media, and the York TV station licence, so they can control media output for propaganda purposes. They know who they are, and they are under considerable growing suspicion.[/p][/quote]Cobblers![/p][/quote]Typical ignorant comment from their followers. They cannot disprove (what I know to be true) with anything factual or tangible, and just resort to the mentality of foolishness. They're marxists and they know they are ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -10

12:59pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Richard Catton says...

Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group.
It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker.

I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council)
Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group. It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker. I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council) Richard Catton
  • Score: -10

1:00pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
The Great Buda wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Not jealous are you ? Not much !!!
No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous. Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it.
Semantics - you are, what you are !
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]Not jealous are you ? Not much !!![/p][/quote]No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous. Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it.[/p][/quote]Semantics - you are, what you are ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -6

1:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Richard Catton wrote:
Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group. It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker. I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council)
Its a description of the clique/cabal/cell working in York which is not limited to Labour councillors. In fact, many Labour councillors may be unaware what is going on, or who is driving the agenda behind the scenes.

The, lets call it, 'movement', are operating across various third sector, artistic/cultural and not for profit organisations, plus the council.

They all share a common philosophy (ideology) and are using their joint efforts to drive their agenda in York. It's hidden using thinly veiled disguises of legitimacy, like the poverty and equalities issues. Their goals are:

1. To increase and promote social innovation to damage/erode the private sector (capitalism).
2. To gain influence and control over the media (York TV is a starter) to push their propaganda, prevent free speech and silence dissenters.

This is helped and assisted by powerful elitist faux charities like NESTA and Common Purpose (plus think tank DEMOS) who all have marxists running them.

They all know who they are, and that their cover has been blown.

It's all going to 'come out in the wash', as they say !
[quote][p][bold]Richard Catton[/bold] wrote: Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group. It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker. I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council)[/p][/quote]Its a description of the clique/cabal/cell working in York which is not limited to Labour councillors. In fact, many Labour councillors may be unaware what is going on, or who is driving the agenda behind the scenes. The, lets call it, 'movement', are operating across various third sector, artistic/cultural and not for profit organisations, plus the council. They all share a common philosophy (ideology) and are using their joint efforts to drive their agenda in York. It's hidden using thinly veiled disguises of legitimacy, like the poverty and equalities issues. Their goals are: 1. To increase and promote social innovation to damage/erode the private sector (capitalism). 2. To gain influence and control over the media (York TV is a starter) to push their propaganda, prevent free speech and silence dissenters. This is helped and assisted by powerful elitist faux charities like NESTA and Common Purpose (plus think tank DEMOS) who all have marxists running them. They all know who they are, and that their cover has been blown. It's all going to 'come out in the wash', as they say ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -16

1:27pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Remember - there is no spoon...
Remember - there is no spoon... Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 9

1:32pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Richard Catton wrote:
Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group. It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker. I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council)
Karl Marx was a great thinker, but, his philosophy is against the values of democracy, against our economic model, against our independent press and against free speech.

I do however agree that CYC is run like a dictatorship (there are two of them,BTW), but, call it what you like, communism and marxism, all amounts to the same thing !

Where are you working now Richard ? Not at Newsquest, I presume ?
[quote][p][bold]Richard Catton[/bold] wrote: Can we stop using the word 'Marxist' to describe York Labour Group. It's offensive to the memory of a great thinker. I suspect you are confusing Marxism with the dictatorships of Soviet Russia (a much more appropriate analogy for the current council)[/p][/quote]Karl Marx was a great thinker, but, his philosophy is against the values of democracy, against our economic model, against our independent press and against free speech. I do however agree that CYC is run like a dictatorship (there are two of them,BTW), but, call it what you like, communism and marxism, all amounts to the same thing ! Where are you working now Richard ? Not at Newsquest, I presume ? Rocking Horse
  • Score: -16

1:37pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Remember - there is no spoon...
Can't you just talk sense, instead of talking in riddles ?

Your starting to sound like these council officers, who use language that the rest of us don't understand.

As usual, on another planet !!!
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Remember - there is no spoon...[/p][/quote]Can't you just talk sense, instead of talking in riddles ? Your starting to sound like these council officers, who use language that the rest of us don't understand. As usual, on another planet !!! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -11

2:18pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

"Scuse me, are you the Marxist Score-Hackers?"

"Good gracious no! We wouldn't have anything to do with those idiots! We're the Score-Hacking Marxists."
"Scuse me, are you the Marxist Score-Hackers?" "Good gracious no! We wouldn't have anything to do with those idiots! We're the Score-Hacking Marxists." Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 10

8:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

York Urban says...

York Fox wrote:
Quite right Mulgrave, this isn't a glamorous vehicle it's a practical one for that area. mjgyork must have missed the address.

There will be more and more people like this. Public transport is not good enough in York to replace the car, but the car is virtually banned. End result, decreasing visitors and decreasing spend in the city centre.

It's all very well stopping cars, but you must provide a viable alternative, and York has failed to do that.
ER... Six park and rides - the most in the UK!
[quote][p][bold]York Fox[/bold] wrote: Quite right Mulgrave, this isn't a glamorous vehicle it's a practical one for that area. mjgyork must have missed the address. There will be more and more people like this. Public transport is not good enough in York to replace the car, but the car is virtually banned. End result, decreasing visitors and decreasing spend in the city centre. It's all very well stopping cars, but you must provide a viable alternative, and York has failed to do that.[/p][/quote]ER... Six park and rides - the most in the UK! York Urban
  • Score: 2

8:38pm Fri 7 Feb 14

York Urban says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you.

The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors.

The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them.

When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York.

Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game !

I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities !
No nativist paranoia here then.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?[/p][/quote]Yes, very relevant, actually, but, sadly it doesn't register with you. The council is run as much by leftard officers, as it is by a handful of councillors. The fact that 61% of the most senior officers don't live in York or pay council tax here, shows that most of the policies they concoct, don't affect them. When Kersten England nauseatingly gushes about 'our' city, it is completely false. She comes from Edinburgh, appatrently, has houses in Bradford, and in the wolds, and allegedly has applied for jobs in Barnsley (in 2012), and Newcastle (in 2013). So much for loyalty to York. Like the majority of her 'regime' there is no loyalty to York - we are just a pawn in their political ideological game ! I wish these pretenders, these fakes, these traitiors would go and work for their own cities ![/p][/quote]No nativist paranoia here then. York Urban
  • Score: 12

10:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

cas540 says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
Not jealous are you ?

Not much !!!
No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous.

Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it.
I suggest you buy a dictionary and learn how to spell shiny.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]Not jealous are you ? Not much !!![/p][/quote]No I'm not, but if I was, I'd be envious not jealous. Jealousy is something else altogether. I suggest you buy a dictionary, and read it.[/p][/quote]I suggest you buy a dictionary and learn how to spell shiny. cas540
  • Score: -2

2:26pm Sat 8 Feb 14

smokin750 says...

mjgyork wrote:
Mulgrave:
Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?
Absolutely, Tadcaster isn't just one main road running through it.
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: Mulgrave: Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?[/p][/quote]Absolutely, Tadcaster isn't just one main road running through it. smokin750
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Sat 8 Feb 14

smokin750 says...

I think i should have put a few quid on with the bookies that the bridge trial would be deemed a success, im pretty certain i would be quids in as it seems like its a foregone conclusion.
Just one big farce.
I think i should have put a few quid on with the bookies that the bridge trial would be deemed a success, im pretty certain i would be quids in as it seems like its a foregone conclusion. Just one big farce. smokin750
  • Score: -9

9:30am Sun 9 Feb 14

again says...

There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!).

It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway.
There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!). It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway. again
  • Score: 1

9:40am Sun 9 Feb 14

again says...

Anyway Rocking Horse a big thanks for easing the Rocking Horse sh1t supply problem. Your comments make it a rarity no longer.
Anyway Rocking Horse a big thanks for easing the Rocking Horse sh1t supply problem. Your comments make it a rarity no longer. again
  • Score: 2

10:13am Sun 9 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

again wrote:
There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!).

It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway.
What a stupid sweeping statement, and what an idiotic vanity purchase it would be. It is odds on that the owners of these vehicles use them for work related purposes which often mean farm/forestry. Fair enough it might be only some of the time, but if you job involves visiting any rural client and towing etc you have got to be prepared. If you had any knowledge of cars you would realise a Defender is actually shorter and narrower than a late model Mondeo for example. If you were talking about an Audi Q7, or the BMW X6 (the bizarre sibling of the X5) I might be inclined to agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!). It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway.[/p][/quote]What a stupid sweeping statement, and what an idiotic vanity purchase it would be. It is odds on that the owners of these vehicles use them for work related purposes which often mean farm/forestry. Fair enough it might be only some of the time, but if you job involves visiting any rural client and towing etc you have got to be prepared. If you had any knowledge of cars you would realise a Defender is actually shorter and narrower than a late model Mondeo for example. If you were talking about an Audi Q7, or the BMW X6 (the bizarre sibling of the X5) I might be inclined to agree with you. Mulgrave
  • Score: 4

3:56pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Swordfish2 says...

Umm, at the risk of actually commenting on the topic of the original letter which is based around one couple's personal shopping habits, I'd suggest they've solved their own highly specific problem.

They complain that parking is too expensive. By what measure? Just their own opinion. They should go to an out of town shopping park where it's free to park. Oh, that's what they did.
They like to make lots of trips to shops and return to their car each time - really? Who does that? And where the hell would they expect to park in any city where they can nip back to their car after each purchase? Oh yes, a shopping park, like Monks Cross.
As for the height of their vehicle, I've parked next to a Defender or 2 in Monk Bar and Haymarket (neither is multi storey) car parks so they've not really made much effort - but if you go to an out of town shopping park you'll not have these problems. Oh yes, that's what they did.

Well done, imaginary problem solved.
Umm, at the risk of actually commenting on the topic of the original letter which is based around one couple's personal shopping habits, I'd suggest they've solved their own highly specific problem. They complain that parking is too expensive. By what measure? Just their own opinion. They should go to an out of town shopping park where it's free to park. Oh, that's what they did. They like to make lots of trips to shops and return to their car each time - really? Who does that? And where the hell would they expect to park in any city where they can nip back to their car after each purchase? Oh yes, a shopping park, like Monks Cross. As for the height of their vehicle, I've parked next to a Defender or 2 in Monk Bar and Haymarket (neither is multi storey) car parks so they've not really made much effort - but if you go to an out of town shopping park you'll not have these problems. Oh yes, that's what they did. Well done, imaginary problem solved. Swordfish2
  • Score: 8

5:45pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JonTite says...

mjgyork wrote:
If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you.
I don't normally lower myself to the levels of such ignorant people but I think it only fair to make a few points about your comment, stupid as it is.
My 4x4 'tank' is narrower and shorter than many estate cars.
We are frequent visitors to the shopping areas of York (see above) and know the roads upon which we normally travel well, other than these roads we are unfamiliar.
I never said we needed to park 10 yards from the car but with children, a pushchair and a lot of shopping we do not want to walk miles.
I hope this clears up my overly complicated letter for the likes of you.
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: If you find it difficult to park your 4x4 tank, perhaps you should have bought a car instead. If you are 'frequent visitor' you should be able to navigate without the necessity of using Lendal Bridge, open or not. And if you feel the need to have to park within ten yards of where you want to be, the Monks Cross was designed for the likes of you.[/p][/quote]I don't normally lower myself to the levels of such ignorant people but I think it only fair to make a few points about your comment, stupid as it is. My 4x4 'tank' is narrower and shorter than many estate cars. We are frequent visitors to the shopping areas of York (see above) and know the roads upon which we normally travel well, other than these roads we are unfamiliar. I never said we needed to park 10 yards from the car but with children, a pushchair and a lot of shopping we do not want to walk miles. I hope this clears up my overly complicated letter for the likes of you. JonTite
  • Score: -7

5:47pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JonTite says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.
It's not a shiny new car it's nines years old. Clown.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Worst "I've just bought a shinny new car" letter ever.[/p][/quote]It's not a shiny new car it's nines years old. Clown. JonTite
  • Score: -5

5:49pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JonTite says...

mjgyork wrote:
Mulgrave:
Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?
Lots of off road opportunities in Driffield (Tadcaster?) I use it daily in my work as a tree surgeon.
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: Mulgrave: Loads of mountainous terrain and off-road opportunities in Tadcaster then?[/p][/quote]Lots of off road opportunities in Driffield (Tadcaster?) I use it daily in my work as a tree surgeon. JonTite
  • Score: -6

5:51pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JonTite says...

WhyEver wrote:
I'm sure the Defender driver will find that there are lots of car parks it cannot get into, and to single out York car parks is bizarre.

As for the decision on the Lendal Bridge trial, James Alexander has already said on Radio York that he expects the cabinet to make the closure permanent. So the idea of running a 6-month trial and getting Leeds University to analyse the results was just a smokescreen.
The Defender driver singled out York because that is the city in which he was sat when writing the letter. Explain the bizarre!
[quote][p][bold]WhyEver[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the Defender driver will find that there are lots of car parks it cannot get into, and to single out York car parks is bizarre. As for the decision on the Lendal Bridge trial, James Alexander has already said on Radio York that he expects the cabinet to make the closure permanent. So the idea of running a 6-month trial and getting Leeds University to analyse the results was just a smokescreen.[/p][/quote]The Defender driver singled out York because that is the city in which he was sat when writing the letter. Explain the bizarre! JonTite
  • Score: -4

6:08pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JonTite says...

I'm really pleased my letter generated such interest.
For some reason this thread has turned into a car review but I will try to address a few of the points raised above.
My Defender is nine years old and is a vehicle I drive off road on a daily basis as a tree surgeon. It is definitely not a 'vanity purchase' nor a Chelsea Tractor, it is a working vehicle that I also use as a family car.
I like to park close to where I am shopping because we have three small children who can't walk for miles and as said in the letter we often return to the car with many bags of shopping ( not after every trip).
My car is narrower and shorter than many estate cars but is taller, which can be a problem when parking.
I don't know why certain clowns on this thread are slating Tadcaster, I don't live there and cant remember visiting....Sorry Tadcaster.
My problems are not imaginary nor particularly serious, I can shop elsewhere.
I'm sorry my letter doesn't add up....whatever that means.
In conclusion, the majority of you correspondents have come across very poorly and are a pretty shameful advert for the city of York.
Also if you have such strong opinions try putting your name to your comments instead of hiding behind pseudonyms, this is pathetic and cowardly.
I'm really pleased my letter generated such interest. For some reason this thread has turned into a car review but I will try to address a few of the points raised above. My Defender is nine years old and is a vehicle I drive off road on a daily basis as a tree surgeon. It is definitely not a 'vanity purchase' nor a Chelsea Tractor, it is a working vehicle that I also use as a family car. I like to park close to where I am shopping because we have three small children who can't walk for miles and as said in the letter we often return to the car with many bags of shopping ( not after every trip). My car is narrower and shorter than many estate cars but is taller, which can be a problem when parking. I don't know why certain clowns on this thread are slating Tadcaster, I don't live there and cant remember visiting....Sorry Tadcaster. My problems are not imaginary nor particularly serious, I can shop elsewhere. I'm sorry my letter doesn't add up....whatever that means. In conclusion, the majority of you correspondents have come across very poorly and are a pretty shameful advert for the city of York. Also if you have such strong opinions try putting your name to your comments instead of hiding behind pseudonyms, this is pathetic and cowardly. JonTite
  • Score: -7

6:27pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

again wrote:
There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!).

It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway.
What gives you the right to criticise the type of vehicle somebody buys, and accuse them of it being a vanity purchase, did anyone criticise your choice of bike, car or possibly scooter, as you appear to be envious and have probably thrown your teddy out the window!
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: There are very few places in England where you need a 4x4 for normal life, (including shopping in York). Driffield certainly ain't one of them by a country mile(!). It's a vanity purchase. If you want easy parking buy a smaller vehicle. There's nothing worse than getting one of these monstrosities next you in a car park anyway.[/p][/quote]What gives you the right to criticise the type of vehicle somebody buys, and accuse them of it being a vanity purchase, did anyone criticise your choice of bike, car or possibly scooter, as you appear to be envious and have probably thrown your teddy out the window! Igiveinthen
  • Score: 2

7:01pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

I think I win the coconut with my post on Sunday, 10.13am - I don't know Jon Tite, but I do spend a lot of time in the East Riding, some others should perhaps get out of York more.
I think I win the coconut with my post on Sunday, 10.13am - I don't know Jon Tite, but I do spend a lot of time in the East Riding, some others should perhaps get out of York more. Mulgrave
  • Score: 3

7:29pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

Mulgrave wrote:
I think I win the coconut with my post on Sunday, 10.13am - I don't know Jon Tite, but I do spend a lot of time in the East Riding, some others should perhaps get out of York more.
Yes quite agree, far too many commenters are quick put others down, particularly if they mention they have a 4x4, and it never enters their small minds that some people actually require this type of vehicle for their work.
Bet all those who are suffering the catastrophic flooding are grateful of the help the 4x4 brigade are providing.
[quote][p][bold]Mulgrave[/bold] wrote: I think I win the coconut with my post on Sunday, 10.13am - I don't know Jon Tite, but I do spend a lot of time in the East Riding, some others should perhaps get out of York more.[/p][/quote]Yes quite agree, far too many commenters are quick put others down, particularly if they mention they have a 4x4, and it never enters their small minds that some people actually require this type of vehicle for their work. Bet all those who are suffering the catastrophic flooding are grateful of the help the 4x4 brigade are providing. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 1

8:46pm Tue 11 Feb 14

JonTite says...

Swordfish2 wrote:
Umm, at the risk of actually commenting on the topic of the original letter which is based around one couple's personal shopping habits, I'd suggest they've solved their own highly specific problem.

They complain that parking is too expensive. By what measure? Just their own opinion. They should go to an out of town shopping park where it's free to park. Oh, that's what they did.
They like to make lots of trips to shops and return to their car each time - really? Who does that? And where the hell would they expect to park in any city where they can nip back to their car after each purchase? Oh yes, a shopping park, like Monks Cross.
As for the height of their vehicle, I've parked next to a Defender or 2 in Monk Bar and Haymarket (neither is multi storey) car parks so they've not really made much effort - but if you go to an out of town shopping park you'll not have these problems. Oh yes, that's what they did.

Well done, imaginary problem solved.
1 Nobody said parking was too expensive, I said it was expensive. That is by the measure of c o m p a r i s on, put very simpl,y expensive compared to charges in other towns and cities.
2 I never said my family liked to return to the car after each purchase. we have three kids, one in a pushchair and can't look after all three with so many bags.
3 Defenders have different suspension and shock systems dependant on use. I'm ecstatic that you managed to park next to a Defender or 2 in whatever car park....well done...really.
4 My problems are not imaginary...or serious. I'll spend my money elsewhere as will many who put half a billion pounds into York's economy every year.
Have you considered a job with York City Council? From what I can gather from reading this thread they are quite keen on the stupid and ignorant. You have a bright future.....
[quote][p][bold]Swordfish2[/bold] wrote: Umm, at the risk of actually commenting on the topic of the original letter which is based around one couple's personal shopping habits, I'd suggest they've solved their own highly specific problem. They complain that parking is too expensive. By what measure? Just their own opinion. They should go to an out of town shopping park where it's free to park. Oh, that's what they did. They like to make lots of trips to shops and return to their car each time - really? Who does that? And where the hell would they expect to park in any city where they can nip back to their car after each purchase? Oh yes, a shopping park, like Monks Cross. As for the height of their vehicle, I've parked next to a Defender or 2 in Monk Bar and Haymarket (neither is multi storey) car parks so they've not really made much effort - but if you go to an out of town shopping park you'll not have these problems. Oh yes, that's what they did. Well done, imaginary problem solved.[/p][/quote]1 Nobody said parking was too expensive, I said it was expensive. That is by the measure of c o m p a r i s on, put very simpl,y expensive compared to charges in other towns and cities. 2 I never said my family liked to return to the car after each purchase. we have three kids, one in a pushchair and can't look after all three with so many bags. 3 Defenders have different suspension and shock systems dependant on use. I'm ecstatic that you managed to park next to a Defender or 2 in whatever car park....well done...really. 4 My problems are not imaginary...or serious. I'll spend my money elsewhere as will many who put half a billion pounds into York's economy every year. Have you considered a job with York City Council? From what I can gather from reading this thread they are quite keen on the stupid and ignorant. You have a bright future..... JonTite
  • Score: 3

11:06am Wed 12 Feb 14

courier46 says...

Tug job wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Tug job wrote:
The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up!
Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ?

Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps !
,
I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?
Yes because people don't sh-t on there own doorstep.Der.....
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The letter writer lives in Driffield. There are not many shops on the West side of the Ouse. Difficult to see why the letter writer would need to use Lendal Bridge, rather than Skeldergate or Ouse bridges, to cross the river approaching York from Driffield; he might want to or wish to, but he doesn't need to as he has other options available to him. In any event, the letter writer was able to visit his restaurant of choice at Monk's Cross. Something about this letter doesn't add up![/p][/quote]Doesn't one of York Council's Directors live in Driffield ? Proof that they don't sh*t on their own doorsteps ! ,[/p][/quote]I neither know nor care where any of the directors live. Is this relevant?[/p][/quote]Yes because people don't sh-t on there own doorstep.Der..... courier46
  • Score: 0

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