‘Pointless’ signs

‘Pointless’ signs

‘Pointless’ signs

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A RASH of 20mph speed restrictions have appeared on many streets in the Acomb Wood/ Woodthorpe area, and probably elsewhere in other urban streets, including even short cul-de-sacs which dog-leg towards the end, some only about 40/50 yards/ metres long.

There is little chance of reaching a speed of 20mph on turning into these streets; the exits have signs inviting the road users to achieve 30mph as they leave.

A cynical point of view might assume that in these short streets a 20mph signs are an invitation to put your foot down and attempt to reach a speed of 20mph not previously considered.

If you think it’s not a good idea, you would be right. And neither is the planting of 20mph restrictions at a cost of £500,000 in the streets described in this letter.

J Beisly, Osprey Close, York.

 

• I have noticed that 20mph signs are springing up all over Acomb and wondered if the council had purchased a job lot at a knockdown price. I found it amusing to see two at the end of School Street (the YMCA charity shop is on the righthand corner) as this street is less than 50 yards long. If you were to drive a Formula One down it you would be hard pushed to reach 20mph.

There are several at the end of cul-de-sacs off Ridgeway. Do the employees erecting these signs get any formal training or is it a case of “stick them up at the end of every street”? Another waste of our council tax.

Jenny Hilton, Holgate Lodge Drive, Holgate, York.

 

• WELL done David Fish for exposing Anna Semlyen as another member of York’s anti-car brigade (Letters, February 1).

She seems to think that all accidents are the motorist’s fault and that 20mph will make walking and cycling safer.

Nothing could be further from the truth, as we only need to look at some cyclists and pedestrians who think the Highway Code does not apply to them and they can do what they like, regardless of any danger, as there is often a motorist around whose insurance they can claim off if they are injured.

While I will agree motorists are far from perfect, it is about time people took more responsibility for their actions instead of making motorists’ scapegoats.

The 20mph zones in York have only created more congestion and pollution and have slowed down buses, making them even less attractive to ride on.

We need fewer of them, not more.

Ian Foster, Hawthorne Avenue, Haxby, York.

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12:38pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Fat Harry says...

Where can one join the Anti-Car Brigade? I can't find them in the phone book or on the Tinterweb.
Where can one join the Anti-Car Brigade? I can't find them in the phone book or on the Tinterweb. Fat Harry
  • Score: -16

1:09pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

These limits bring the established zones into disrepute and there is no real understanding of the difference, the Press photo shows an entry to a calmed 20mph Zone such as those outside schools. You will not find the word zone on any of these new limits.

We should be grateful for small mercies, CoYC have left all the roads that actually go anywhere in west York as they were, so in the main the new limits are targeted at the residents of these small backwaters.

Don't blame the council workers Jenny, blame Anna Semlyen, she instigated the first limit in her own street which is hardly any length, has both sides parking and thus had average speeds of 16mph.
These limits bring the established zones into disrepute and there is no real understanding of the difference, the Press photo shows an entry to a calmed 20mph Zone such as those outside schools. You will not find the word zone on any of these new limits. We should be grateful for small mercies, CoYC have left all the roads that actually go anywhere in west York as they were, so in the main the new limits are targeted at the residents of these small backwaters. Don't blame the council workers Jenny, blame Anna Semlyen, she instigated the first limit in her own street which is hardly any length, has both sides parking and thus had average speeds of 16mph. Mulgrave
  • Score: -4

3:20pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Dr Robert says...

Yes these signs are as pointless as Councillor Semlyen.
Yes these signs are as pointless as Councillor Semlyen. Dr Robert
  • Score: -54

4:22pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Lunatic says...

Instead of **** about it grab your spray can of black paint and go fix the problem the way the French did when they tried to introduce speed cameras.

So much impotent whinging in York, so precious few actually willing to do anything about it.
Instead of **** about it grab your spray can of black paint and go fix the problem the way the French did when they tried to introduce speed cameras. So much impotent whinging in York, so precious few actually willing to do anything about it. Lunatic
  • Score: -38

4:29pm Wed 5 Feb 14

lezyork1966 says...

Maybe they can make haxby road 20mph all the way from clarence st to nestle as its all shops schools and play areas, oh hang on its a bus route.....not gonna happen then...
Maybe they can make haxby road 20mph all the way from clarence st to nestle as its all shops schools and play areas, oh hang on its a bus route.....not gonna happen then... lezyork1966
  • Score: -21

7:06pm Wed 5 Feb 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Ian. If you think the council care about pollution think again. They know that since 2006 there has been no increase in the volume of traffic, it says so in their own report which also says pollution has risen in the same period by as much as 48%. This can be put down largely to their anti car policies which create stop start motoring in the city and, as they say, buses. Mind you apart from the polluting buses they seem to be in denial.
Ian. If you think the council care about pollution think again. They know that since 2006 there has been no increase in the volume of traffic, it says so in their own report which also says pollution has risen in the same period by as much as 48%. This can be put down largely to their anti car policies which create stop start motoring in the city and, as they say, buses. Mind you apart from the polluting buses they seem to be in denial. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -16

12:19am Thu 6 Feb 14

strangebuttrue? says...

My goodness the score changers don't miss a trick do they. Most genuine scores on this subject were positive when I did my post. They must be a desperate minority bunch who know they can't win the argument with facts and all they can do is try to mislead people. But then that seems to be the trait of the minority campaigner - just make it up as you go along. They probably believe these scores once they have altered them.
My goodness the score changers don't miss a trick do they. Most genuine scores on this subject were positive when I did my post. They must be a desperate minority bunch who know they can't win the argument with facts and all they can do is try to mislead people. But then that seems to be the trait of the minority campaigner - just make it up as you go along. They probably believe these scores once they have altered them. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -152

3:43pm Thu 6 Feb 14

bravo whisky says...

Very true, strangebuttrue, Councillor Semlyen has obviously rounded up all the Labour voters once again to distort any meaningful comments, just like the rest of the Labour Council they cannot abide criticism. How ridiculous they are, at the time of writing your comment above has minus 155,
Very true, strangebuttrue, Councillor Semlyen has obviously rounded up all the Labour voters once again to distort any meaningful comments, just like the rest of the Labour Council they cannot abide criticism. How ridiculous they are, at the time of writing your comment above has minus 155, bravo whisky
  • Score: 3

5:04pm Thu 6 Feb 14

strangebuttrue? says...

bravo whisky wrote:
Very true, strangebuttrue, Councillor Semlyen has obviously rounded up all the Labour voters once again to distort any meaningful comments, just like the rest of the Labour Council they cannot abide criticism. How ridiculous they are, at the time of writing your comment above has minus 155,
You may have something there with Anne as 20s plenty, last time I could find any meaningful numbers, had around 150 members - nationally!! Not quite the 11 million they make out support them.
[quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote: Very true, strangebuttrue, Councillor Semlyen has obviously rounded up all the Labour voters once again to distort any meaningful comments, just like the rest of the Labour Council they cannot abide criticism. How ridiculous they are, at the time of writing your comment above has minus 155,[/p][/quote]You may have something there with Anne as 20s plenty, last time I could find any meaningful numbers, had around 150 members - nationally!! Not quite the 11 million they make out support them. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 3

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