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Recently there have been letters suggesting that only York-born businessmen should be councillors and that no allowances should be paid.

This was the position more than 100 years ago and even as recently as 40 years ago.

However, was it a reflection of York residents, both of age, sex, education or class? No, because those without wealth rarely were able to stand. If that were the situation today it would not provide the knowledge and understanding of the diverse range of services provided or of the work undertaken in partnership.

York councillors are a diverse range of individuals: from the “school of life” to Masters and PhDs, with employment covering retail, care, commerce, charity, private and public institutions – teachers, nurses, lawyers, etc – to business people, retired armed forces, railways, engineering and more.

Personally, I was born in York, my familyhaving lived here for more than 150 years, and have worked in the private, public and charitable sectors of care and support over the past two decades. Are the letter writers saying women should not be councillors?

The city has had, does and will have future challenges and so needs a diverse range of councillors – men and women, young and old.

Coun Tracey Simpson-Laing, Deputy leader of City of York Council.

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10:20am Fri 31 Jan 14

BL2 says...

It also needs councillors who actually LISTEN to their constituents!
It also needs councillors who actually LISTEN to their constituents! BL2
  • Score: -33

11:40am Fri 31 Jan 14

beretta says...

BL2 wrote:
It also needs councillors who actually LISTEN to their constituents!
Totally agree with BL2, not only do they need to listen but some COMMON SENSE would help, something York City councilors seem to lack
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: It also needs councillors who actually LISTEN to their constituents![/p][/quote]Totally agree with BL2, not only do they need to listen but some COMMON SENSE would help, something York City councilors seem to lack beretta
  • Score: -42

12:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Mulgrave says...

I certainly don't agree with the original letter writers, being a councillor should be open to all, but the allowances are more equivalent to a salary as in any other sphere, and the "extras" like being paid 20p a mile to ride a bike because it is "not as bad" as driving a car and claiming at 45p irritate. Genuine long distance travel aside, surely they are both covered by the lump sum, and save the councillor time over walking. I once did a stint as a Parish Councillor, of course far less work than a city councillor, but nobody claimed anything except reimbursement of genuine out of pocket expenses.

To look at the writer's council history; I have no doubt that Coun Simpson - Laing is extremely passionate and committed to providing affordable housing in the city, but her part in insisting that too higher proportion than the private sector could bear made the net result worse, and is where the top two posts are spot on :- Ideology - 10 out of 10. Applying common sense and a bit of business nous - nil. Listening to a chorus of people who were pointing out the obvious - nil.
I certainly don't agree with the original letter writers, being a councillor should be open to all, but the allowances are more equivalent to a salary as in any other sphere, and the "extras" like being paid 20p a mile to ride a bike because it is "not as bad" as driving a car and claiming at 45p irritate. Genuine long distance travel aside, surely they are both covered by the lump sum, and save the councillor time over walking. I once did a stint as a Parish Councillor, of course far less work than a city councillor, but nobody claimed anything except reimbursement of genuine out of pocket expenses. To look at the writer's council history; I have no doubt that Coun Simpson - Laing is extremely passionate and committed to providing affordable housing in the city, but her part in insisting that too higher proportion than the private sector could bear made the net result worse, and is where the top two posts are spot on :- Ideology - 10 out of 10. Applying common sense and a bit of business nous - nil. Listening to a chorus of people who were pointing out the obvious - nil. Mulgrave
  • Score: -18

1:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Old_Man says...

City of York Council is indeed diverse. It has idiots, liars, crooks, thieves, alcoholics, self-obsessives, egotists and incompetents.

And that's just Labour!
City of York Council is indeed diverse. It has idiots, liars, crooks, thieves, alcoholics, self-obsessives, egotists and incompetents. And that's just Labour! Old_Man
  • Score: -16

1:39pm Fri 31 Jan 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Maybe you could just give honest answers to honest questions for a start Tracey
Maybe you could just give honest answers to honest questions for a start Tracey TheTruthHurts
  • Score: -14

1:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Exlabourmember says...

Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it? Exlabourmember
  • Score: -24

2:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Jonthan says...

Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
Have you spotted an error in the letter ExLab or is it just an ad hominem attack? Please share the mistake with us because I cant see anyting wrong with it.

I bet Labour were really broken up when you left them. When was that by the way? You seem to have travelled a long dark road since then
[quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]Have you spotted an error in the letter ExLab or is it just an ad hominem attack? Please share the mistake with us because I cant see anyting wrong with it. I bet Labour were really broken up when you left them. When was that by the way? You seem to have travelled a long dark road since then Jonthan
  • Score: 62

3:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

Ah, the 'Illuminati'

Intellectuals and academics with PhD's.

How many are Common Purpose ?

How many who are will deny it ?

Only last week this FOI was answered by City of York Council about Common Purpose...

https://www.whatdoth
eyknow.com/request/p
ayments_to_common_pu
rpose_and_n#comment-
46944

Note that a comment by Paul Saunderson says that the Chief Executive is not a CP graduate, but on an Advisory Panel ? This was evidenced by associations given on Kersten England's Linkedin profile to both Common Purpose and the regional CP Advisory Panel - which have now mysteriously disappeared since the FOI.

Those wishing to know more about Common Purpose may be interested in the following youtube talk by Brian gerrish....

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=-3DmnovmB
IA
Ah, the 'Illuminati' Intellectuals and academics with PhD's. How many are Common Purpose ? How many who are will deny it ? Only last week this FOI was answered by City of York Council about Common Purpose... https://www.whatdoth eyknow.com/request/p ayments_to_common_pu rpose_and_n#comment- 46944 Note that a comment by Paul Saunderson says that the Chief Executive is not a CP graduate, but on an Advisory Panel ? This was evidenced by associations given on Kersten England's Linkedin profile to both Common Purpose and the regional CP Advisory Panel - which have now mysteriously disappeared since the FOI. Those wishing to know more about Common Purpose may be interested in the following youtube talk by Brian gerrish.... http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=-3DmnovmB IA Rocking Horse
  • Score: -21

3:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree.

Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!!

I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ? Rocking Horse
  • Score: -12

6:39pm Fri 31 Jan 14

oi oi savaloy says...

what we don't need is the current crop of lunatics ! i.e. alexander ,simpson laing, levine , merit and crisp!! these people do are not interested in the council tax paying residents! their on.y interests are tourists, students and people claiming benefits!! the latter 2 in hope of gaining their votes!
what we don't need is the current crop of lunatics ! i.e. alexander ,simpson laing, levine , merit and crisp!! these people do are not interested in the council tax paying residents! their on.y interests are tourists, students and people claiming benefits!! the latter 2 in hope of gaining their votes! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -8

10:53pm Fri 31 Jan 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree.

Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!!

I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ????????

what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?[/p][/quote]'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything. oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -9

5:15pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Sillybillies says...

Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
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So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
[quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair. Sillybillies
  • Score: -25

8:42pm Sat 1 Feb 14

CaroleBaines says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree.

Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!!

I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ????????

what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.
Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?[/p][/quote]'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.[/p][/quote]Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 12

9:39pm Sat 1 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree.

Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!!

I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ????????

what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.
Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.
Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less??
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?[/p][/quote]'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.[/p][/quote]Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.[/p][/quote]Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less?? oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -39

10:53pm Sat 1 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
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Word Choice
Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better)
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Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing.

Transitional Phrases
Transitional Words Score*: 98
*based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper
Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -17

2:23am Sun 2 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.
Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.
Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less??
Fair point.

Some degrees are more useful than others.

A degree in engineering is useful - you can design and make things.

A degree in criminology, which Coun Simpson-Laing has, is no doubt useful too in certain roles, but, can she explain how it helps her in her role as a councillor ?
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?[/p][/quote]'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.[/p][/quote]Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.[/p][/quote]Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less??[/p][/quote]Fair point. Some degrees are more useful than others. A degree in engineering is useful - you can design and make things. A degree in criminology, which Coun Simpson-Laing has, is no doubt useful too in certain roles, but, can she explain how it helps her in her role as a councillor ? Rocking Horse
  • Score: -15

7:54am Sun 2 Feb 14

tonyfromitaly says...

I think a degree in criminology is a wonderful tool to have if one is a labour councillor. Truly very useful given who she works alongside.
But given that she says she has been in York all her life and historically 150yrs then its time to move over and give someone else a go.
I think a degree in criminology is a wonderful tool to have if one is a labour councillor. Truly very useful given who she works alongside. But given that she says she has been in York all her life and historically 150yrs then its time to move over and give someone else a go. tonyfromitaly
  • Score: -16

12:27pm Sun 2 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?
'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.
Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.
Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less??
Fair point.

Some degrees are more useful than others.

A degree in engineering is useful - you can design and make things.

A degree in criminology, which Coun Simpson-Laing has, is no doubt useful too in certain roles, but, can she explain how it helps her in her role as a councillor ?
no mention of criminology on her profile, just a qualified NVQ assessor in care, which was probably a 2 hour course (with a 60 minute coffee break and free lunch) ... and like i said i will wager its a 2 or less, which really doesn't mean anything.. also states 'obtained a BSc and MA through the open university' like the rest of the current crop of new labour, she is one of life's many bullshitters.. if she was a criminologist why did she work as a till girl in jessops on minimum wage in recent years?
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: Coun Simpson-Laing has Batchelor and a post graduate degree. Look up her council or labour profiles and see what these are in, particularly the Masters degree ?!!!! I wonder if she applies this in her dealings for the council ?[/p][/quote]'Born in York, Tracey attended Fishergate Primary, Mill Mount and York College. In recent years she has qualified as an NVQ Assessor in Care and obtained a BSc and MA through the Open University.' ???????? what does it mean??? it's just one of these many B/S courses that doesn't actually mean anything.[/p][/quote]Yeah right. Like to see you get a degree.[/p][/quote]Dear Carol, you don't know me yet you come up with a pathetic comment like that?? Is that the best you can do? I expect comments like that from the loony lefties! Just to let you know I have a proper degree in engineering ... Some thing worthwhile .. It's kept me in employment in a proper job since 1977! I maybe make a few typo's and stuff ... that's mainly because I do this on a little iPhone keyboard and to be honest am not really that bothered! AND let's be really honest an NVQ?? Anything less than an NVQ 4 and they give them away ... And I will wager hers is a 2 or less??[/p][/quote]Fair point. Some degrees are more useful than others. A degree in engineering is useful - you can design and make things. A degree in criminology, which Coun Simpson-Laing has, is no doubt useful too in certain roles, but, can she explain how it helps her in her role as a councillor ?[/p][/quote]no mention of criminology on her profile, just a qualified NVQ assessor in care, which was probably a 2 hour course (with a 60 minute coffee break and free lunch) ... and like i said i will wager its a 2 or less, which really doesn't mean anything.. also states 'obtained a BSc and MA through the open university' like the rest of the current crop of new labour, she is one of life's many bullshitters.. if she was a criminologist why did she work as a till girl in jessops on minimum wage in recent years? oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -10

4:19pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Sillybillies says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
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So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for. Sillybillies
  • Score: -29

11:23pm Sun 2 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
Spelling
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Transitional Words Score*: 98
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Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.[/p][/quote]hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -12

3:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Sillybillies says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
Spelling
Spelling Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

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Grammar Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Word Choice
Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better)
*based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper.
Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing.

Transitional Phrases
Transitional Words Score*: 98
*based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper
Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx
I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.[/p][/quote]hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx[/p][/quote]I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree. Sillybillies
  • Score: -14

8:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
Spelling
Spelling Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Grammar
Grammar Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Word Choice
Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better)
*based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper.
Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing.

Transitional Phrases
Transitional Words Score*: 98
*based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper
Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx
I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.
you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies!
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.[/p][/quote]hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx[/p][/quote]I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.[/p][/quote]you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -7

5:56pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Sillybillies says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
Spelling
Spelling Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Grammar
Grammar Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Word Choice
Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better)
*based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper.
Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing.

Transitional Phrases
Transitional Words Score*: 98
*based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper
Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx
I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.
you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies!
Maybe, but it appears I'm right.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.[/p][/quote]hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx[/p][/quote]I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.[/p][/quote]you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies![/p][/quote]Maybe, but it appears I'm right. Sillybillies
  • Score: 11

7:41pm Tue 4 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
Exlabourmember wrote:
Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?
I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score -
Spelling
Spelling Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Grammar
Grammar Suggestions
No errors of this type found in the text.

Word Choice
Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better)
*based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper.
Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing.

Transitional Phrases
Transitional Words Score*: 98
*based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper
Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range!

So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.
hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows!
Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.
hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx
I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.
you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies!
Maybe, but it appears I'm right.
of course you are, lefties are always right, you know that....
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Exlabourmember[/bold] wrote: Id settle for a literate one. Did she read this before she sent it?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she did. I've just run the letter through paperrater.com and this is the score - [quote]Spelling Spelling Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Grammar Grammar Suggestions No errors of this type found in the text. Word Choice Bad Phrase Score*: 1.931 (lower is better) *based on the number and quality of trite or inappropriate words, phrases, and cliches found in your paper. Great job - your score is above average! You know exactly which phrases to avoid in your writing. Transitional Phrases Transitional Words Score*: 98 *based on quality of transitional phrases used within your paper Good job! Your usage of transitional phrases is within an acceptable range! [/quote] So what's wrong with it? Can't say I like her, but fair's fair.[/p][/quote]hm ... are you sure you used it right? because there is actually a mistake on there! a small one BUT still A mistake! and to be honest have you checked her twitter?? thats where it really shows![/p][/quote]Yes, I spotted "my familyhaving lived", it's nothing and could be a Press printing fault. With all due respect it's f-all compared to the errors in the comment of yours I am responding to, but I agree we can all make typos! The comment from Exlabourmember was undeserved and uncalled for.[/p][/quote]hmm... think you will find there is no error "in the comment of yours" which you are responding to?? i know i make many errors .. but as you state you spotted the error and you ran it through some paper rater and it showed no errors?? how bizarre .. am thinking you need to get out more silly billy xx[/p][/quote]I removed the error before checking. Your comments suggest you know nothing about academia and doubt your claim to a degree.[/p][/quote]you really are one very sad silly billy, sillybillies![/p][/quote]Maybe, but it appears I'm right.[/p][/quote]of course you are, lefties are always right, you know that.... oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -8

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