Limits’ limitations

York Press: Limits’ limitations Limits’ limitations

THE new speed limit signs in the vicinity of Deighton have now been erected, and it is immediately obvious why North Yorkshire Police did not support this scheme.

Travelling from York the 60mph limit now drops to a short section of 50mph reduced to 40mph at the point where Deighton is located just off the main road.

This reverts to another short 50mph section before the 40mph limit for Escrick. There is no 50mph buffer at the far side of Escrick.

It is regrettable that a fatality occurred on the A19 at Deighton, but in the bigger picture this type of ad-hoc reactive tinkering may seem to solve a local problem, but if drivers see inconsistent and poorly judged implementation of speed limit powers it can only lower respect for limits in general.

While limits are mandatory, enforcement is in reality minimal, and it is the co-operation of motorists that is required to achieve safety on our roads.

Keith Wellburn, Postern Close, York.

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12:35am Tue 28 Jan 14

AnotherPointofView says...

It is with regret that this Council listen to no one. The Police advised that the speed limit would be confusing and difficult to enforce. The fact that there are so many variations in the speed limit in such a short distance means many will inadvertently end up speeding.

It's a shame that as a motorist we have such a car hating (Cllr Merritt) in charge of our roads.

Roll on the election next year.
It is with regret that this Council listen to no one. The Police advised that the speed limit would be confusing and difficult to enforce. The fact that there are so many variations in the speed limit in such a short distance means many will inadvertently end up speeding. It's a shame that as a motorist we have such a car hating (Cllr Merritt) in charge of our roads. Roll on the election next year. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -6

2:32am Tue 28 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

drivers will be so busy watching their speedo so as to comply with all the different speed limits, that they'll hit something because they weren't looking ahead!
drivers will be so busy watching their speedo so as to comply with all the different speed limits, that they'll hit something because they weren't looking ahead! Magicman!
  • Score: -6

9:51am Tue 28 Jan 14

old_geezer says...

It is indeed a right dog's breakfast. Heading south, it should be either 50 OR 40 from Deighton to Escrick, OR even revert to the previous national limit. Anything but what's there now.
It is indeed a right dog's breakfast. Heading south, it should be either 50 OR 40 from Deighton to Escrick, OR even revert to the previous national limit. Anything but what's there now. old_geezer
  • Score: -10

10:54am Tue 28 Jan 14

Mulgrave says...

So, North Yorkshire police with experience of roads policing in their large rural patch (North Yorks is Englands largest county) is ignored by a non driving city councillor, D Merrett, who has control over a dozen miles of roads leading out of the city, more it would seem by accident than logic.
So, North Yorkshire police with experience of roads policing in their large rural patch (North Yorks is Englands largest county) is ignored by a non driving city councillor, D Merrett, who has control over a dozen miles of roads leading out of the city, more it would seem by accident than logic. Mulgrave
  • Score: -15

12:39pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Mulgrave says...

It is a moot point whether reducing the limit actually makes it easier to cross as a pedestrian when there is a high volume of traffic, There always were 40mph regardless drivers on this road and the gap between them and the 60mph driver who has just passed by was perhaps the gap needed to cross.

I had a llook at the decision on CoYC website. It is stated that it meets the objective of reducing fuel consumption and emissions. My automatic drops from top to sixth at around fifty then there is then the drop to 40, back to 50 then 40 again, obviouly no actual evidence was needed for the council to toss this superfluous piece of nonsense into the pot.
It is a moot point whether reducing the limit actually makes it easier to cross as a pedestrian when there is a high volume of traffic, There always were 40mph regardless drivers on this road and the gap between them and the 60mph driver who has just passed by was perhaps the gap needed to cross. I had a llook at the decision on CoYC website. It is stated that it meets the objective of reducing fuel consumption and emissions. My automatic drops from top to sixth at around fifty then there is then the drop to 40, back to 50 then 40 again, obviouly no actual evidence was needed for the council to toss this superfluous piece of nonsense into the pot. Mulgrave
  • Score: -40

3:06am Thu 30 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Stevie D wrote:
It would be an absolute joke except that it isn't funny.

The official government guidance is that buffer zones (like the first 50mph limit as you head south) should not be used except in extreme circumstances ... reducing the limit from 60 to 40 in a place with good visibility does not in any way, shape or form meet those criteria, and should not be in place. The limit through Deighton is quite blatantly obviously too low, and should not be less than 50mph.

To ensure the safety of Deighton residents, I recommend that every time you see a car waiting to turn in/out of the village or a pedestrian waiting to cross the road there, you give a long blast on your horn ... this is the correct use of the horn, which is to warn them of your presence, as it seems that they are rather less capable of safely getting a cross a main road than the average person, if they really do need this 40mph limit.
I would agree with this. Sadly the scores have been tampered with on this article too... considering this is a letter about poor use of lowered speed limits, could the votes rigger be Anna Semlyn perhaps??

If Deighton village has pedestrian refuge islands in the middle of the road through the village, that in itself makes crossing the road safer because pedestrians only have to cross one lane of traffic and not two... several different speed limits on a fairly short section of road is just going to confuse drivers and cause annoyance. 40mph from Riccal to York is too low, and according to locals 60mph is too high, so just make the route a blanket 50mph and be done with it, none of this shilly-shallying around with 60-50-40-50-40-60 like there is currently.
[quote][p][bold]Stevie D[/bold] wrote: It would be an absolute joke except that it isn't funny. The official government guidance is that buffer zones (like the first 50mph limit as you head south) should not be used except in extreme circumstances ... reducing the limit from 60 to 40 in a place with good visibility does not in any way, shape or form meet those criteria, and should not be in place. The limit through Deighton is quite blatantly obviously too low, and should not be less than 50mph. To ensure the safety of Deighton residents, I recommend that every time you see a car waiting to turn in/out of the village or a pedestrian waiting to cross the road there, you give a long blast on your horn ... this is the correct use of the horn, which is to warn them of your presence, as it seems that they are rather less capable of safely getting a cross a main road than the average person, if they really do need this 40mph limit.[/p][/quote]I would agree with this. Sadly the scores have been tampered with on this article too... considering this is a letter about poor use of lowered speed limits, could the votes rigger be Anna Semlyn perhaps?? If Deighton village has pedestrian refuge islands in the middle of the road through the village, that in itself makes crossing the road safer because pedestrians only have to cross one lane of traffic and not two... several different speed limits on a fairly short section of road is just going to confuse drivers and cause annoyance. 40mph from Riccal to York is too low, and according to locals 60mph is too high, so just make the route a blanket 50mph and be done with it, none of this shilly-shallying around with 60-50-40-50-40-60 like there is currently. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

9:41am Thu 30 Jan 14

Mulgrave says...

Hope this mornings 3 vehicle collision in the middle 40mph section of the 3 new limits in no worse than bent metal.
Hope this mornings 3 vehicle collision in the middle 40mph section of the 3 new limits in no worse than bent metal. Mulgrave
  • Score: -1

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