‘Psycho’ confusion

York Press: ‘Psycho’ confusion ‘Psycho’ confusion

THERE has been much debate about introducing a 20mph limit. In the Hull Road area of York, we would consider it a blessing if we had an effective 30mph limit. It would make such a difference to the quality of life.

The noise pollution from cars zooming along at 50mph outside your door is beyond a dangerous nuisance; it also affects peace of mind.

In more regulated streets, residents would expect that outside of busy times there would be a reduction in noise. Not so in York, as less traffic means you drive faster – so fast that on a Sunday morning you can hear a car coming long before you can see it.

In this area we already have a 30mph limit on paper, but not in practice.

If we are unable to curb excessive speeding in parts of York then the responsible action for the council is to actively discourage cycling and warn people about traffic travelling at excessive speed.

Not to do so is unfair on children and the many visitors and students who believe they are safe to cycle.

Novice cyclists are so intimidated by aggressive driving that they take to the pathways. Not all cyclists are thrill-seeking junkies and the uninitiated can be overcome with fear when confronted with our indifference to road safety.

Try explaining to a visitor that York is a cycle friendly city and you will get a look of bewildered astonishment; unless they misheard and confused the word “cycle” with “psycho”.

K Anderson, Hull Road, York.

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9:50pm Mon 20 Jan 14

AnotherPointofView says...

50? Do you have access to a speed camera?
50? Do you have access to a speed camera? AnotherPointofView

2:40am Tue 21 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Novice cyclists are so intimidated by aggressive driving that they take to the pathways. Not all cyclists are thrill-seeking junkies and the uninitiated can be overcome with fear when confronted with our indifference to road safety.

Try explaining to a visitor that York is a cycle friendly city and you will get a look of bewildered astonishment; unless they misheard and confused the word “cycle” with “psycho”.
It's good to see other people have their heads screwed on and can see through our council's empty 'cycling city' babble for what it is: just words, and very basic infastructure to try and get more government money for what is actually very little... compared to other cities anyway.

Hull Road itself is quite unique to York in how it is built... because when it was built that area of York was actually part of East Yorkshire, and so it was built to Humberside specification. Take a look at Hessle Road and other main routes into Hull, and they are pretty much the same: dual carriageways with a central reservation and gaps for side roads. But in Hull, the streets concerned have houses facing onto them which don't have driveways - and the council have taken out lane 1 in some cases for parking spaces, and in other cases made lane 1 into a wide cycle lane which is seperated from lane 2 by 1meter wide tigertail road markings. Whilst those local to the area may criticise the road for having the capacity to allow cars to get up some speed, I ask myself "what would this be like if it was built to the same specification as Fulford Road, right up to the A64, complete with traffic lights at the Tranby Avenue junction?"... just imagine it as single carriageway without the central reservation and every junction being traffic lights right the way from the A64 to Walmgate Bar - and think of how far back the traffic would back up to if that were the case! The A64 Grimston Bar roundabout junction is already a poor setup which cannot cope at peak times (it can take 20 minutes to get from B&Q to the A64), but the dual carriageway nature of the road absorbs some of the tailback - whilst at the same time allowing space for cars not going westbound on the A64 to get further along the road; such an allowance isn't possible on Fulford Road.
[quote] Novice cyclists are so intimidated by aggressive driving that they take to the pathways. Not all cyclists are thrill-seeking junkies and the uninitiated can be overcome with fear when confronted with our indifference to road safety. Try explaining to a visitor that York is a cycle friendly city and you will get a look of bewildered astonishment; unless they misheard and confused the word “cycle” with “psycho”. [/quote]It's good to see other people have their heads screwed on and can see through our council's empty 'cycling city' babble for what it is: just words, and very basic infastructure to try and get more government money for what is actually very little... compared to other cities anyway. Hull Road itself is quite unique to York in how it is built... because when it was built that area of York was actually part of East Yorkshire, and so it was built to Humberside specification. Take a look at Hessle Road and other main routes into Hull, and they are pretty much the same: dual carriageways with a central reservation and gaps for side roads. But in Hull, the streets concerned have houses facing onto them which don't have driveways - and the council have taken out lane 1 in some cases for parking spaces, and in other cases made lane 1 into a wide cycle lane which is seperated from lane 2 by 1meter wide tigertail road markings. Whilst those local to the area may criticise the road for having the capacity to allow cars to get up some speed, I ask myself "what would this be like if it was built to the same specification as Fulford Road, right up to the A64, complete with traffic lights at the Tranby Avenue junction?"... just imagine it as single carriageway without the central reservation and every junction being traffic lights right the way from the A64 to Walmgate Bar - and think of how far back the traffic would back up to if that were the case! The A64 Grimston Bar roundabout junction is already a poor setup which cannot cope at peak times (it can take 20 minutes to get from B&Q to the A64), but the dual carriageway nature of the road absorbs some of the tailback - whilst at the same time allowing space for cars not going westbound on the A64 to get further along the road; such an allowance isn't possible on Fulford Road. Magicman!

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