Playing politics

Playing politics

Playing politics

First published in Letters by

MANY years ago, the council in York was made up of local retailers and businessmen. It was not politically interested.

The only interest was for the benefit of the city, its residents and businesses. Mainly the councillors were from York.

Today’s council seems to consist of politically-minded groups who continue to play a game of oneupmanship.

Retailers seem to have little say in the decisions the council makes.

How many councillors were born and educated here? Why don’t we have a council drawn from local businesses that see the seasonal change in their revenue and can offer important opinions on York?

I’m sure it would work better and it wouldn’t be politically orientated.

S McClaren, Boroughbridge Road, York.

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10:59am Sat 18 Jan 14

George Appleby says...

An independent council? Sounds good to me!
An independent council? Sounds good to me! George Appleby
  • Score: 24

5:37pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area.

The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England !
I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area. The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: 12

6:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

George Appleby wrote:
An independent council? Sounds good to me!
Independent Councillors and Council yes, but " shopkeepers" (local retailers and businessmen) I wonder..............
.?
I doubt whether they would have the necessary knowledge, "nous"
[British • informal common sense; practical intelligence:} and wisdom to efficiently govern a modern yet ancient historically based tourist City that York now is. The retail economy is not sufficient to provide the jobs that York needs.
There is something essentially parochial about York as exemplified by the term interlopers in the second comment.
There needs to be "a meeting of minds", and born in York doesnt tick all the boxes!
(As an "Incomer" this should unearth some feedback!)
[quote][p][bold]George Appleby[/bold] wrote: An independent council? Sounds good to me![/p][/quote]Independent Councillors and Council yes, but " shopkeepers" (local retailers and businessmen) I wonder.............. .? I doubt whether they would have the necessary knowledge, "nous" [British • informal common sense; practical intelligence:} and wisdom to efficiently govern a modern yet ancient historically based tourist City that York now is. The retail economy is not sufficient to provide the jobs that York needs. There is something essentially parochial about York as exemplified by the term interlopers in the second comment. There needs to be "a meeting of minds", and born in York doesnt tick all the boxes! (As an "Incomer" this should unearth some feedback!) Older Sometimes Wiser
  • Score: 2

8:25am Sun 19 Jan 14

Kroythrundthru says...

I feel some of you have missed the point? The original letter is saying wht are the Councils so politically minded?
They act as little Governments on behalf of thier Political Party. Thus making decisions that do/may not be in the best interests of our great City and the many people who live in and around and those who make a living here.
You only have to look at the Coucil we have in place now they are so politically up thier own backside it's not true.
I feel some of you have missed the point? The original letter is saying wht are the Councils so politically minded? They act as little Governments on behalf of thier Political Party. Thus making decisions that do/may not be in the best interests of our great City and the many people who live in and around and those who make a living here. You only have to look at the Coucil we have in place now they are so politically up thier own backside it's not true. Kroythrundthru
  • Score: -19

11:44am Sun 19 Jan 14

Jonthan says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area.

The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England !
What, you mean we should not appoint people on the basis of their qualifications and ability to do the job, but on the basis of their postcode?
Odd idea.
I thought you would have agreed with the Thatcherite suggestion that people should "get on their bike" and seek employment where the opportunities arise.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area. The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England ![/p][/quote]What, you mean we should not appoint people on the basis of their qualifications and ability to do the job, but on the basis of their postcode? Odd idea. I thought you would have agreed with the Thatcherite suggestion that people should "get on their bike" and seek employment where the opportunities arise. Jonthan
  • Score: 2

10:15am Mon 20 Jan 14

York Fox says...

I have always wondered why local governments have the same parties as the national government. I fail to see how a local government can realistically have the same philosophical basis in socialism or conservativism that national politics does with the limited powers at its disposal.

Local politics should be about local issues, specific to a very local area and shouldn't/can't have anything to do with major party politics. The groupings should be called 'Group for Increased Growth of the Tourism Industry' or 'Group for Paralysing the City through Silly Traffic Restrictions and Speed Limits' or similar.
I have always wondered why local governments have the same parties as the national government. I fail to see how a local government can realistically have the same philosophical basis in socialism or conservativism that national politics does with the limited powers at its disposal. Local politics should be about local issues, specific to a very local area and shouldn't/can't have anything to do with major party politics. The groupings should be called 'Group for Increased Growth of the Tourism Industry' or 'Group for Paralysing the City through Silly Traffic Restrictions and Speed Limits' or similar. York Fox
  • Score: 13

11:01am Mon 20 Jan 14

York Fox says...

Jonthan wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area.

The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England !
What, you mean we should not appoint people on the basis of their qualifications and ability to do the job, but on the basis of their postcode?
Odd idea.
I thought you would have agreed with the Thatcherite suggestion that people should "get on their bike" and seek employment where the opportunities arise.
Anyone who doesn't agree that you should 'get on your bike' to go where the work is, is destined for pretty miserable life. Why you wouldn't move if you can and have no work is beyond me (coming from someone who has emigrated for work once and will be relocating for work again soon).

Local opportunities letting you down....get on ya bike and go and find success!
[quote][p][bold]Jonthan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: I think it should be compulsory for councillors to state on their CYC profiles how long they have lived in the York area. The council seems to be full of interlopers, and apparently over 60% of the senior officers don't live in the York area, (don't pay council tax to York), including Kersten England ![/p][/quote]What, you mean we should not appoint people on the basis of their qualifications and ability to do the job, but on the basis of their postcode? Odd idea. I thought you would have agreed with the Thatcherite suggestion that people should "get on their bike" and seek employment where the opportunities arise.[/p][/quote]Anyone who doesn't agree that you should 'get on your bike' to go where the work is, is destined for pretty miserable life. Why you wouldn't move if you can and have no work is beyond me (coming from someone who has emigrated for work once and will be relocating for work again soon). Local opportunities letting you down....get on ya bike and go and find success! York Fox
  • Score: -7

12:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Zetkin says...

I'd question S McClaren's assumption that business people and retailers automatically make better councillors and always act in the interests of the whole city.

In my experience business people and retailers act in their own interests; that's why they have always been so keen to get on to local councils. The fact that they now do it via political parties rather than masquerading as independent makes little difference to those of us on the sharp end of their decision-making.

At least when they stick a rosette on their chest, it gives the voter some idea of what they really stand for: Cuts, More Cuts, or Cuts So Deep They Take Your Breath Away.
I'd question S McClaren's assumption that business people and retailers automatically make better councillors and always act in the interests of the whole city. In my experience business people and retailers act in their own interests; that's why they have always been so keen to get on to local councils. The fact that they now do it via political parties rather than masquerading as independent makes little difference to those of us on the sharp end of their decision-making. At least when they stick a rosette on their chest, it gives the voter some idea of what they really stand for: Cuts, More Cuts, or Cuts So Deep They Take Your Breath Away. Zetkin
  • Score: -6

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